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To leave DH for these reasons?

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YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 21:18

Been together for 21 years. These are some of the things he’s done over the years that have led me to this point:

Found out when I was pregnant with youngest (now 13) that he was on extra-marital affair websites and was conversing with several women and arranging to meet up in hotels.
Upon me finding out he insisted nothing had ever happened and it was all titillation. Subsequently got mad at me if I brought it up and told me all the usual stuff like “we weren’t having much sex at the time” (not true). I think this was the start of when I really started to resent him and the scales fell from my eyes.

Financial abuse: I’m a sahm (I know, I know). He pays me an allowance each week for food/clothes etc. I will admit on this he’s quite generous and rarely buys things for himself. But we have no joint finances - I have absolutely no idea how much he earns (though he has told me if he was on a salary he would be in the top 2% to afford our lifestyle)
He owns £££ in assets but I am not privy to any of this information. I don’t even know who we pay our bills/mortgage to. All his paperwork is kept in his locked offices and it’s such a mess I wouldn’t know where to begin. Now we’re getting older (and after a few sudden deaths in the family) I have asked repeatedly that I’m included in financial goings-on so that I know what to do should anything happen to him. His response is to shut me down with phrases such as “the solicitors will deal with it” or “just sell everything- you’ll be fine”. His business dealings are extremely complicated, he works 12 hour days to keep up - yet he thinks il be fine with absolutely no knowledge of the business if he dies?(he’s older than me btw)

Sex: he has, I think, a porn addiction - or has in the past. I’ve caught him many times, he knows I hate it.
I believe this has ruined our sex lufe as he’s always wanting to do things I’m not comfortable with. I don’t want to go into too much detail as it’s embarrassing but he will sometimes punch me and choke me during sex. If I complain he says he does it bc he knows I like it really. He also has some pretty gross fantasies that knock me sick. As a result I really don’t like having sex with him anymore.

He has just made me take a second lot of speeding points for him bc if he takes them he’ll be banned. If I refuse he’ll say that I will then have to do all the driving and it’ll affect his work and our finances.

He loves the sound of his own voice, is a complete bore and only talks about certain subjects: the economy, the state of the country, how much he disagrees with certain things etc. I feel he is a very negative person, though he would describe himself as positive - but this is only “toxic positivity” in my view. If you are upset about something he has the attitude of “you just need to change your mindset” or “stop moping” - as a result I don’t confide in him or really even talk to him any more. It feels like if he’s not the one controlling the conversation he’s not interested.

I read things on here about people saying their partners are kind and do things like bring them a cup of tea when they’re ill or do some cleaning. He does nothing. Bc he earns the money and I don’t work, everything else is down to me. He won’t do any diy around the house and won’t pay tradesmen to do it, as a result I feel the house is falling down around our ears - it’s really stressful.

Ive been ill this week and have been getting up late as I can’t sleep and when I come down he hasn’t even fed the poor dog. If I ask him to do anything he says “later” or gets the hump.

He’s suddenly decided after 20 years of going out of the house for 12 hrs a day that he’s now working from home as he’s no need to be in the office any more. When we were younger and the dcs were small I used to sometimes beg him to take a day off if I was ill and he wouldn’t. One thing that sticks in my mind was my dd knocking herself out and I’d just had another baby and he wouldn’t come home and take the baby whilst I took her to A&E. that’s just one example - there are many other similar incidents. I’m so annoyed that now the dcs are all flying the nest or at high school he’s suddenly decided he’s staying home. It’s driving me mad. I can’t play music whilst I’m cleaning bc he’s working etc.

Im 42 so is this age-related? Do I stick it out bc he’s not that bad or for the dcs sake? The thought of spending the next 30 years with him is depressing.

Ive no idea what position il be in financially if we do spilt - I’ve no money, no idea about his financial affairs and wouldn’t even have the money for a solicitor. I do know (or he’s said) that my name is on some of the properties he owns. I don’t think he’s done this to protect me but to protect himself should his business go tits up!

I could go on and on but I realise this is already very long. I don’t really know what I’m asking - maybe just to document things for my own sanity.

Has anyone been in a similar situation or knowledgable about instances like this where one partner holds all the cards?

I feel like if I divorce him il be completely at his mercy. He’s very clever in business dealings and knows how to hide things/use loopholes.

thanks to anyone who read that mammoth OP!

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JubileeJumps · 04/01/2024 22:01

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Ignore this ‘delight’
Work is nothing to be worried about you’ll be amazing in whatever you choose to do.

ManateeFair · 04/01/2024 22:03

he will sometimes punch me and choke me during sex. If I complain he says he does it bc he knows I like it really

Do I stick it out bc he’s not that bad

Read that back to yourself and let that contradiction sink in.

He is violently sexually assaulting you on a regular basis. These are criminal offences he’s committing.

It not because he’s using porn. It’s because he’s a violent sadist. He literally hates you.

You would be insane to stay with this man.

Conniethecatapillar · 04/01/2024 22:03

You can definitely do this! You're only 42 my god you can have a whole other life if you get free of him. Have you any friends who you can confide in to get support with solicitors and things like that?

Youcannotbeseriousreally · 04/01/2024 22:03

You’ll be so much better off without him OP.

YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 22:03

I know I need to go back to work - it’s just hard, I’ve lost all confidence and don’t know where to start.

Even if I get a job it’s going to be minimum wage and then il still have everything to do when I get home bc he certainly won’t.

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WickDittington · 04/01/2024 22:03

Just a warning and a plea to her that she gets real and looks after herself.

In my opinion, @YouStupidGirl needs to divorce this man, but she should expect it to be financially really tough and there’s nowadays little assumption about spousal maintenance.

It’s shit, she’s sacrificed her own future for this awful man , but it’s so frustrating to read story after story on MN where women do this. Why do we keep on doing this? How can we raise our girls do that they don’t end up in the situation that the poor OP is in?

As a very wise woman - one of my university tutors- said to me “Never give up your job.”

driftingdownintomiami · 04/01/2024 22:04

Can you check your credit file online OP? Might be a good step to see if there are any loans etc in your name that you aren't aware of. I wouldn't trust him one bit (and also have my doubts about whether he has as much money as he says or whether there's a shed load of debt.)

Tinkerbyebye · 04/01/2024 22:05

Save your allowance and go and see a solicitor or speak to woman’s aid. You can leave for whatever reason you want

gamerchick · 04/01/2024 22:05

You haven't really took his speeding points have you?

YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 22:05

I agree with you WickDittington

If only I had a time machine!

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SleepPrettyDarling · 04/01/2024 22:06

@YouStupidGirl please feel free to DM me as a SAHM to four who navigated my way out.

CJsGoldfish · 04/01/2024 22:08

The dcs don’t know anything about it
This is the biggest lie parents in shit relationships tell themselves as some kind of justification for staying. You are modelling to your children what they should aspire to in a relationship. 'This' is their 'normal' so no matter what choices you make, don't ever think they are not affected by this.

Yes you can leave. You don't need to come up with 'reasons' to do so. You know this isn't right and it needs to change. Only YOU can do this. You were so young when you met but you are STILL young and have so many good years ahead of you that you deserve to enjoy. You are way stronger than you know. Do you have support? Friends, family? If you do, use them. If you don't, that's another bonus to living a healthy life. The connections you'll make and the opportunities you'll discover. How about a short course of some kind to boost your employability? Is there anything you've always wanted to do? Aim for it.

Let your children see the strong woman you can be while you still can

PonyPatter44 · 04/01/2024 22:08

I completely get that going back to work is daunting. But literally, walk into one of those high street employment agencies and ask them what they've got. Yes, you'll still have to do housework etc... but so do most people who work full time. Your kids aren't babies, they can learn to help out as well.

You can't carry on living with a sex offender.

CatOnTheLap · 04/01/2024 22:10

He’s financially abusing you.
He’s sexually abusing you.
He’s made you break the law, twice (by lying about the speeding)

You either need a divorce lawyer or a new patio.

Nicole1111 · 04/01/2024 22:11

Do not sentence yourself to a life time with this man. He is definitely abusive and I’ve included the image so you can think about how else he might be abusive.
If I were you I’d secretly seek legal advice as soon as possible and start making a (well hidden) record of everything that you can think of that will be relevant in divorce proceedings. You should also complete the freedom programme (you can do it online) and contact your local domestic abuse charity for one on one support.

To leave DH for these reasons?
Whistle67 · 04/01/2024 22:13

If he is a director of a company you can search his name on companies house. You can then see the accounts / balance sheets for any companies he owns.

What about your main residence is your name on that?

ShakeNvacStevens · 04/01/2024 22:14

OP If you're in England or Wales (not sure about the rest of the UK) then seamless cohabitation counts towards length of marriage. Therefore if you've lived together for say 20 years you'll be treated as if you've been married for that long when splitting assets in divorce.

Wakemeup17 · 04/01/2024 22:16

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 04/01/2024 21:39

For this alone you need to leave or throw him out

always wanting to do things I’m not comfortable with. I don’t want to go into too much detail as it’s embarrassing but he will sometimes punch me and choke me during sex. If I complain he says he does it bc he knows I like it really. He also has some pretty gross fantasies that knock me sick. As a result I really don’t like having sex with him anymore.

That's rape! How can anyone put up with noncensual punching and choking in bed? And to be told that "you like it, really". FGS. I would never have sex again with him.

Also, get a shit hot lawyer before you tell him, everyone else is right.

Tittiesthattouchmytors · 04/01/2024 22:18

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 04/01/2024 21:39

For this alone you need to leave or throw him out

always wanting to do things I’m not comfortable with. I don’t want to go into too much detail as it’s embarrassing but he will sometimes punch me and choke me during sex. If I complain he says he does it bc he knows I like it really. He also has some pretty gross fantasies that knock me sick. As a result I really don’t like having sex with him anymore.

He is totally gaslighting you- he hurts you because he knows you enjoy it really- fuck off. Your description of living with this piece of shit, sounds like a prison sentence. I absolutely admire you for insisting he marry you.

Now…take him to the cleaners and find a man who will appreciate you and not force you to do anything in bed ( because this new man will see sex as a way to show you how much he loves you). You are young still, with plenty of time to meet someone else.

You don’t have to apply for jobs- look for a local gap in the market, cleaning, dog walking/ sitting, afterschool care and make your own work. You’re parenting 4 kids, you have lots of skills!

This man has abused you and taken advantage of you all your relationship. Start planning a new life, and get a very good lawyer to take him to the cleaners for all he has put you through. Money is the thing that matters to this man…get even.

MysticalMegx · 04/01/2024 22:18

You need to leave. I guess you won't really know any different after a relationship that long but it's not healthy and you need to get out

WickDittington · 04/01/2024 22:18

YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 22:05

I agree with you WickDittington

If only I had a time machine!

You’re only 42 - you have at least 25 years to build up an independent life! Don’t leave it any longer.

My mother left it too long and my father was not abusive in the way you describe. Just not focused on the family …

Honestly, your DC will know - your husband’s behaviour won’t be invisible. And he will reap what he does with his DC. They do see more than you realise and probably more than they can understand.

But mostly, do it for you. Working outside the home and running a household is pretty normal for most people (one learns to lower one’s standards). You will relish the independence - truly you will!

What about doing some volunteer work to get back into the swing of working outside the home?

Mirabai · 04/01/2024 22:20

Workwise - the place to start is voluntary work - no pressure of pay, just get used to working with people again.

Channellingsophistication · 04/01/2024 22:20

He chokes me during sex … hes not that bad… this post is so upsetting.

please get legal advice, please get a job even if minimum wage and get rid of this dreadful excuse of a man. You can have a better life which I think you deserve.

Tittiesthattouchmytors · 04/01/2024 22:21

By the way, when you say he is not that bad…he really is. He is almost as bed as it gets. All he hasn’t done is hurt or kill your children.

inappropriateraspberry · 04/01/2024 22:21

Would you rather be working and tired - but happy, or stuck in the life you currently have? Plus a better environment for your children.