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Being told what to order from takeaway..

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Beanz2022 · 29/12/2023 22:11

friend invited me round for drinks and food, she said we could get indian takeaway..(context, her and her husband are veggies) she text me one hour before and said would it be OK if you didn't order a meat dish as we don't allow meat in the house.. so I ended up having a vegetable curry which, I really hated.. she had whatever she wanted and thoroughly enjoyed it.. why invite me round if you know I eat meat and won't allow me to order what I want.

OP posts:
VanityDiesHard · 30/12/2023 14:00

TheCorrupter · 30/12/2023 12:15

I think we'd need to know how long op has been friends with the vegetarian in question and how much she knows about her reasons, home rules and etc before we came definitely say saying an hour in advance is springing it on someone.

I have a no meat rule. I have a sign in my kitchen saying kind food only ( I got this because people kept bringing meat after I said no) I've been veggie mostly my whole life.

Doesn't stop people who have been to my house and know these rules trying it on every time. In my case, where I did offer to pay anyway, I only reminded an hour before as we only decided two hours before and my husband mentioned they'd probably want meat. Even though they know we have a no meat in the house rule, turned out to be true. I ended up rail roaded into having meat in the house and tbh I do think it was terribly selfish as they know our rules, know how it would effect me and still insisted. I had depression at the time so wasn't able to assert my boundaries but do so now but boy it's hard. Certain people just always push it despite it being their choice to visit, despite plenty of warning, despite opportunity to eat out. I honestly think it shows such a lack of respect and like they have something to 'prove'.

Ugh, 'kind food only'. My god that is so cringe and twee.

TheCorrupter · 30/12/2023 14:01

Well they'd run out of 'no corpses' please see.

ANightmareBeforeChristmas · 30/12/2023 14:15

IGotItFromAgnes · 30/12/2023 11:40

While I agree that the friend should have given more than an hour’s notice (I’m another that likes to look at the menu and plan way in advance), I’m really surprised at the number of people here who say they wouldn’t enjoy vegetarian food. Particularly from an Indian takeaway! I eat meat, but would be perfectly happy to go vegetarian for an evening if asked - regardless of whether I was paying or not.

The problem is that many pleasant vegetarian options have been replaced by foul 'vegan' things involving fake meat made from fungi that has no business being in a human meal.

Emma8888 · 30/12/2023 14:51

"The friend should have at least said we can change to a pizza or something else. Ergo, friend was a bad host."

The friend asked if it was ok, the OP said it was fine, so how is friend supposed to know?

Icouldbehappy · 30/12/2023 14:53

StockpotSoup · 30/12/2023 11:20

It’s not much different from what her friend has done 🤦‍♀️

It’s utterly and completely different. No amount of silly little emojis will change that.

Keep telling yourself that.
Oh and here are some emojis, just for you
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Emma8888 · 30/12/2023 15:03

"I don't think a Muslim would ban other people from eating pork, and definitely not from drinking alcohol though, or a Hindu ban someone from eating beef."

My strictly religious friends would be absolutely mortified if someone brought unclean / offensive items into their home. It would be unspeakably rude so to do imo. If you are Jewish and keep a kosher kitchen, you already have two sets of plates, cutlery, etc. as you cannot use the same things for meat / chicken and dairy. A China plate, if someone put a pork on it, would have to be thrown away as it could never be considered kosher again.

RampantIvy · 30/12/2023 15:40

Most "Indian" restaurants are in fact Bangladeshi or Pakistani @Squeezita

I cook genuine Indian food at home using recipes written by Indians and they bear no resemblance to what we can get at an Indian restaurant.

@TheCorrupter people don't really bring meat to a vegetarian's house, do they?

DD is vegetarian and niece is vegan. I wouldn't dream of bringing meat to either house. However, neither gets upset if people order takeaways with meat in, or orders a meat dish in a restaurant when eating out with them.

TheCorrupter · 30/12/2023 15:46

Yes people regularly try to bring meat to my house. I have to repeatedly tell some offenders.
And ordering a meat takeaway to my house I would consider 'bringing meat in'. The fact that the delivery guy puts it over the threshold is merely semantics.

RampantIvy · 30/12/2023 15:49

Is it just takeaways then @TheCorrupter?
If I thought ordering a takeaway with meat in would upset my host I wouldn't do it.

It sounds like you need better friends.

CurlewKate · 30/12/2023 15:53

In the circumstances I would have said "OK- what's good? How about you order for me?"

Icepinkeskimo · 30/12/2023 16:03

Prayfortheangels · 29/12/2023 22:19

Of course she is not unreasonable to not want meat in her house. There are plenty of lovely non meat options from Indian takeaways. People who insist on meat at every meal are totally unreasonable.

Get over yourself, another poster who is either incapable of reading the original post or condemning someone who doesn’t follow their own narrative.
Where did the poster mention or insinuate that they insist on meat at every meal? Cut people some slack will you?
OP next time they want Indian food, suggest you go out to eat. That way you get exactly the meal you want.
Your money, your choice, and no passive aggressive opinions/pressure put on you.

prescribingmum · 30/12/2023 16:20

FreshWinterMorning · 30/12/2023 13:29

Exactly. The only annoying ones are people who are putting on a song and a dance about how much of a vegetarian they are (or how much of a vegan) who parp on about it, and who drop it into every conversation! 🙄

They faint at the sight of anyone wearing leather shoes, they burst into tears if they see a photograph of a pork chop, and they finger-point and cuss people if they see them eating a sausage roll in the street. And they will NOT ALLOW MEAT IN THE HOUSE. 😆

Everyone has GOT to know just how much of a veggie/vegan they are, and they post all kinds of anti-meat, pro-veggie - and vegan stuff on social media, and make their whole identity about being a veggie/vegan.

It's like that old saying 'how do you know someone is a vegan?' .... 'They will TELL you!'

I remember 'comedian' Romesh Ranganathan saying once 'Why do I say I am superior to you and better than you because I'm a vegan? Because I AM. Yes, I AM better than you, and I am superior to you.' It was at that moment, I decided to switch off the TV when he is on ANYthing! Sadly, whilst there are some lovely vegans who just get on with their life and don't judge others, there are many like Ranganathan.

If you met me tomorrow in a social event, you would not have a clue that I am vegetarian. I will happily sit next to you in any social setting and pass no comment or judgement on what you eat. I will order and eat what suits me and, quite frankly, don’t give a shit what anyone else has. I’ve grown up sitting next to people eating meat and am not phased by it. Same goes for wearing animal products.

However, we are religious and do not have meat in our house in any circumstances. If you ordered a take away, the food would need to be in the house, our cutlery would be used to serve it and plates to eat it on.

This is one of the times I am so grateful MN is some parallel universe as not a single person I know considers it rude to have respect for another persons wishes when in their home. I agree OP should have had more notice but the way posters have spoken about this couple is horrible to read

Unlike OP’s friend, we pay when we host so I would not be in the situation of expecting someone else to pay for food that is a compromise. I do understand the OPs disappointment - I rarely eat out so the few times I do, I want specific things and don’t want to waste money on a second preference BUT I would suck it up because company was more important or tell the host I will come a bit later because the arrangement does not suit me.

Loulou560 · 30/12/2023 16:34

I’m an almost lifelong vegetarian, and I don’t bang on about it. So, when I’m out and about, it wouldn’t be obvious.
If anyone comes to my house for a take away, I wouldn’t dream of telling them what to eat. However, I do think that this obsession about having meat with every meal over someone’s company quite weird too.
I would draw the line at someone wanting to bring something like a hog roast to my house TBH, and if I was cooking, the menu would be veggie. If someone though having meat was more important than my friendship we wouldn’t be friends.

StockpotSoup · 30/12/2023 16:46

Icouldbehappy · 30/12/2023 14:53

Keep telling yourself that.
Oh and here are some emojis, just for you
😂😂😂😂🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️ 🙄

I don’t need to “keep telling myself” that, because I’m right.

TrolleyCase · 30/12/2023 16:46

CurlewKate · 30/12/2023 12:34

It is baffling how freaked out people get at the prospect of a meal without meat!

Especially in this day and age. Most people I thought are educated about health and climate and are trying to reduce their meat intake. But clearly not! Vast swathes of the population still need their ‘meat and two veg’ it seems. Or maybe just ‘meat’…

TrolleyCase · 30/12/2023 16:50

Maray1967 · 30/12/2023 12:35

Agreed - very normal. It’s the meat that makes a curry in my view. I wouldn’t be doing that again.

The irony of this made me laugh. India is the country where curry originates. The country which has the highest proportion of vegetarians in the world. Yet here in the UK, it’s ’meat that makes a curry’.

TrolleyCase · 30/12/2023 16:54

FreshWinterMorning · 30/12/2023 13:29

Exactly. The only annoying ones are people who are putting on a song and a dance about how much of a vegetarian they are (or how much of a vegan) who parp on about it, and who drop it into every conversation! 🙄

They faint at the sight of anyone wearing leather shoes, they burst into tears if they see a photograph of a pork chop, and they finger-point and cuss people if they see them eating a sausage roll in the street. And they will NOT ALLOW MEAT IN THE HOUSE. 😆

Everyone has GOT to know just how much of a veggie/vegan they are, and they post all kinds of anti-meat, pro-veggie - and vegan stuff on social media, and make their whole identity about being a veggie/vegan.

It's like that old saying 'how do you know someone is a vegan?' .... 'They will TELL you!'

I remember 'comedian' Romesh Ranganathan saying once 'Why do I say I am superior to you and better than you because I'm a vegan? Because I AM. Yes, I AM better than you, and I am superior to you.' It was at that moment, I decided to switch off the TV when he is on ANYthing! Sadly, whilst there are some lovely vegans who just get on with their life and don't judge others, there are many like Ranganathan.

The thing is, I do think that vegan and vegetarian diets are largely healthier and better for the environment. So from that perspective, a vegan is superior to me. I am fine with that!

manoffthelead · 30/12/2023 16:56

"....why invite me round if you know I eat meat and won't allow me to order what I want..." Perhaps they like you.

Icouldbehappy · 30/12/2023 17:04

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Sallyh87 · 30/12/2023 17:04

I think YABU, there are loads of options which are non meat from an Indian restaurant. Veggie curry is only one, there are always paneer options or just loads of starters and sides etc.

I do find ordering a portion just for yourself in a takeaway order weird. Surely it’s great to order with others so you can try different things!

If it’s an issue for you, you will know in future and just go out.

SouthLondonMum22 · 30/12/2023 17:06

Thanks to this thread, I'm having an Indian takeaway for dinner.

Icouldbehappy · 30/12/2023 17:15

SouthLondonMum22 · 30/12/2023 17:06

Thanks to this thread, I'm having an Indian takeaway for dinner.

I hope you get what YOU want to eat and now what someone else wants you to have 😂
(I am just kidding. There are some right weirdos on this thread!)

StockpotSoup · 30/12/2023 17:16

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SouthLondonMum22 · 30/12/2023 17:18

Icouldbehappy · 30/12/2023 17:15

I hope you get what YOU want to eat and now what someone else wants you to have 😂
(I am just kidding. There are some right weirdos on this thread!)

You'd have to pry Chicken Tikka Masala out of my cold, dead hands! 😂

DrCoconut · 30/12/2023 17:18

People of the "I'll eat what I like" persuasion. Would that also apply if your friend had an allergy? Would you happily watch them keel over as you tucked into your satay chicken? If a host avoids certain foods for whatever reason and asks you not to bring/eat those foods when visiting it's their decision.

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