Men using Mumsnet

[Moonshine5]

Mumsnet was always a safe space to me, a community of women for women and recently I have noticed an influx of husbands on here.
Can't women have anything just for themselves?I t's getting on my nerves!
(I'm not talking about same sex marriage / partners and I believe in equality).

AINBU Men please seek alternative forms 😊
AIBU Men belong here 🙄

This conversation is ridiculous. The dads I know are all great parents and are more than capable to contribute valuably to these forums.

Clearly there are some who aren't but that can just as easily be said about all posters not just men.

Apparently you are completely unaware of PigletJohns existence on MN....

I’m a man, and I post / interact on MN because it’s a great resource as a parent.
Like it or not, there are certain topics in life where balanced input from a particular gender is useful - such as when an ‘all men are arseholes’ thread pops up for the fifth time that week.
All men aren’t arseholes, and I’ll have my say to that effect.

Some of the comments on this thread are ridiculous - MNHQ has frequently let it be known that men are welcome here.

These days the Scouts (aka, Boy Scouts in days of old) allow girls in, yet Girl Guides don’t allow boys.
Do you see all men whinging about that? No, we just get on with our lives - as posters complaining about men being present on MN need to.

The world is a better place when we all show a little kindness and acceptance.

There’s useful input by men on MN every day - most male posters don’t point out they’re a man unless it’s relevant (but I’ve got a good idea who is and who isn’t from their previous posts).

Just because you can’t be bothered to find said input doesn’t mean it’s not true, and I doubt you’d be willing to accept it either way as it’d be contrary to your argument.

These days the Scouts (aka, Boy Scouts in days of old) allow girls in, yet Girl Guides don’t allow boys.

Leaving aside the trans issue for the time being. I have been a guide leader and a scout leader. I have had plenty of parents (pre the change in scouts) asking if their daughters could attend.

I never once, not once, had a parent who asked if a boy could attend Guides.

Because its seen as socially okay for a girl to do something more "masculine" but funnily enough it wasn't seen as okay for boys to rush to be more "feminine"

That's why men weren't whingeing. Because they saw those activities as something they wouldn't want their sons to do.

Of course now with TRAs your assertion that men aren't whining about not being able to join women's groups is frankly laughable.

I have no issue with men on MN. But let's not pretend that parents not wanting boy to join Guides is somehow due to some superiority of men's behaviour rather than a result of patriarchal bullshit about "womens" activities

And of SAHDs apparently.

It's like living back in the 1950s with some posters.

Can you imagine if someone posted to complain about the fact that there's women on here who aren't Mums?! Despite it being called 'Mumsnet' there'd be uproar

I mean it literally happens all the time. All the time. With all the beats of but its MUMsnet.

I find it baffling that you think this doesn't happen

Don't need to jmagine it, just look back on the many threads on it.

(I've never had children and at 51, that's unlikely to change...)

Blimey, there's been more threads about that than about the weather.

Have you really never seen them?

They make for painful reading and can really open your eyes to the level of unintelligence around.

The amount of posters who have never considered that people without children, might be interested in the majority of topics that aren't about parenting, is astounding.

And you can sometimes blow their minds if you mention they might be TTC or you know....actually related to some children.

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I'm happy to recant, simply post a link to any contribution yourself or any male has made that proved enlightening to the mothers present.

as previous posters have said, PigletJohn (although I have to confess I don't know whether they've actually said what sex they are!). I don't know what sex many posters are though so I would have no idea which enlightening contributions were by men.

now, what contributions have you made that have proved enlightening to the mothers present thus justifying your presence here?

Maybe you should read over your opening post and think about what you mean, particularly by the bit in brackets.

I can't stand gatecrashers but they may not be men and of course men can post on mumsnet. Could do without the interlopers posting made-up relationship scenarios in AIBU just to smuggle in some usually sexual agenda that they wouldn't get away with in Relationships but that posters here in their hundreds take at face value and offer earnest advice. I suspect those to be men but could be wrong.

now, what contributions have youmade that have proved enlightening to the mothers present thus justifying your presence here?

I'd love to see the answer to this, although I have a feeling he or she won't be providing it.

PigletJohn has said he is a man before but my suspicion is that he is the most advanced AI around who instead of taking over the world and destroying humanity instead chooses to fix our DIY issues one damp house at a time

I used advanced search out of curiosity. It didn't take long. There's nothing enlightening.

Not all men on mumsnet are identifiable as such nor do they need to be. You will probably have seen lots of excellent posts from men and not realised they were male.

Everyone has a diverse background which contributes to these posts.

You mean you didn't find the advice to women on how to be a "homely, loving wife and a slut in bed" life changing

Wow, thats such a shock...

Spoiler alert: if anyone is interested apparently sucking his thumb but looking suprised about it will change your sex life forever, I mean surely that's the enlightening sort of advice you have all been after on here...

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quite.

Leave Piet John out of this. He unblocked my sink. Virtually.

Piglet.

Now that definitely sounds like a euphemism 🤣🤣

@Anjea, I hope you didn't suck his thumb after that.

Virtually or otherwise!

I write with humour and compassion as best can, and not against men per se - I married one. I simply agree - as do 39 per cent of those who voted - with the OP's opening statement. And if discount the male vote who'd be invariably for, then I suspect the result closer to 50/50. Which doesn't warrant the use of caps, bold, and italics, and quoting out of context. All this shouting isn't winning me over. Only Deathbyfluffy answered eloquently. And Piglet John's plumbing advice may be helpful, but lots of dedicated DIY forums.

So in response to your comments about the fact you think men have nothing useful to contribute you are now responding that the only poster who "answered eloquently" was in fact a man

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Fuck me you really can't make this shit up