Men using Mumsnet

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Mumsnet was always a safe space to me, a community of women for women and recently I have noticed an influx of husbands on here.
Can't women have anything just for themselves?I t's getting on my nerves!
(I'm not talking about same sex marriage / partners and I believe in equality).

AINBU Men please seek alternative forms 😊
AIBU Men belong here 🙄

There are plenty of appallingly cruel posters here who happily tell you they are a woman whilst they give another woman (identified from an obvious post) a good pasting.

You do realise that women can be - and frequently are - nasty to each other, don't you? All people can be nasty to people - and women are people.

It's a site for parents, equality is important.

I think that there are some threads where it would be insensitive of men to contribute to but I don't think that you can apply a broad brush stroke to the site as a whole.

Well yes I do realise that… hence the post. Just to clarify for you, men posting here in good faith is no problem for me because there are plenty of women here being pretty vile to other women. So yes I realise women can be vile to other women. I am not sure that I’ve said woman aren’t people though?

Going on this (and the other half-million similar threads), it's amazing that Carphone Warehouse kept going for all of those years, long after carphones had ceased to be a thing.

Just who were all of those unwanted predatory/shameful/deceitful/invading people who were thinking "I want to buy a new mobile phone that will go everywhere with me and not just be fixed into my car, but I nevertheless still feel entitled to purchase one from this shop"?

In that case, I don't understand the point you were making about cruel posters and juxtaposing it with an ongoing discussion about whether posters happen to be male or female.

@SpaghettiSauceOnTheCarpet I don't think it matters if someone points out they're male - if I started out giving background history it's just factual. Not exactly flexing their biceps or superiority.

It does seem that male posters sometimes can't win. If they say "Man here" or "As a man", they're being condescending, superior, domineering and willy-waving; but if they never mention it, believing it to be irrelevant to the discussions in point, they're criticised (in general, often on threads like this) for being 'deceitful' and 'pretending' to be women - by those who inexplicably assume that all other posters must be women.

It's bad enough the horrible way some MNers from outside the UK are treated when those who assume that everybody on this UK-based-but-globally-accessible site must be British discover that they are actually not.

There's something condescending and superior about the tone of most posts which start 'XXX here' or 'speaking as an XXX' though - there are better ways of conveying information on sex, occupation, nationality or whatever XXX is if it's relevant to the thread.

i still don't get what you mean. 2nd wavers literally don't care for gender or sex stereotypes.

I find they usually pop up on the sex threads, post themselves because their wives don’t want to have sex with them or asking for gift ideas for their DP/DW. There are probably a few exceptions but frankly I’d happily do without them.

Yes sex threads and threads about sec work. I can remember one who would pop up every time saying how he had been to lap dancing clubs and chatted with the girls (of course nothing else) and they told him how much they enjoyed their work so that was his argument supporting these places

the girls really enjoyed having a good old natter with nice middle aged men whilst wearing underwear

@VanityDiesHard I honestly don't think you know what a second wave feminist is-particularly if you're talking about separatism.

I completely agree with you; but I'm just saying that a lot of men on MN will be blamed for both mentioning that they are men and not mentioning that they are men!

And then those (who obviously fall into the latter category) who just get on participating as a person and respectfully discussing the topic at hand (the majority of which on here are sex-neutral) with other people - they are assumed simply not to exist, because "You can ALWAYS tell when a poster is a man!"

Rabid second wavers? Oh, you mean the ones who did all the actual work.

Your exclusion of fountain pen users is unacceptable and we are going to start our own forum. We have royal patronage you know.

Sorry, but you have to draw the line somewhere

Its a bit like watching a gang of tigers tear up a wet lettuce.

😂

Aha!

Ive not read every post of this ridiculous thread but just to say if this was the other way round some of us women would be up in arms!

@Sunnydays1974 "Ive not read every post of this ridiculous thread but just to say if this was the other way round some of us women would be up in arms!"

What do you mean?

You mean if someone said women shouldn't post on Mumsnet?

Well yes. I expect we would.

No anonymous internet forum where you just sign up is going to be a "safe space" against anybody.

Well 'us women' have had centuries of being excluded by men, and from far more significant places than an Internet forum, have we nor? A situation that still continues to this day. So, while I might be slightly annoyed if a bunch of men didn't welcome me with open arms to a male centred forum, I'm not sure that given all the other ways in which women are sidelined and indeed, seriously harmed, by men, I'd make it my priority to be 'up in arms' about. It must be lovely to be a man if your idea of 'sexism' is a few women who'd prefer you didn't post on MN.

The feminists with their anti men rants are just as tedious to me as when you come across NF supporters ranting about immigrants.

I think any exclusion is abhorrent. Can you imagine someone advocating the exclusion of jews? Hate is hate and prejudice shouldn't be tolerated.