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Women with twat husbands

232 replies

Jixg · 16/12/2023 22:49

Just don’t get it! So many mates complain they’re husbands are lazy, they not happy; I mean one had a husband who was doing coke behind their backs and she then took him back! Wtf do they have no respect for themselves?
I just couldn’t live or trust somone like that. Am I being unreasonable?

OP posts:
3WildOnes · 20/12/2023 17:24

soyaalmond · 20/12/2023 17:18

I guess you would choose to move your children from their schools where they are happy and settled? Move them to a tiny flat in a less safe area away from all of their friends? Tbh I don't think either way is right or wrong and in the case of abuse I would 100% move but if my husband was just a bit useless it would be a bloody tough decision to make! Life isn't black and white

WRONG:

Neither me, nor my off springs are financially reliant on a man i.e. their father.

I would move back to my mortgage-free 3 bed flat in Chelsea (which I bought and owned before I started breeding).

I ensured I (their mother) was not dependent on a man before I started procreating.

No, I will not swear at you. You have your deal you have signed up to deal with, which, to be fair, is much already, as your post has just confirmed, to you.

Whilst here, may I mention that NONE is discussing DV victims who need and only get support as it should be? Not clear why those who have made themselves financially dependent on fathers of their off springs like to wrap themselves with DV victims, who none is discussing on here? guess it is clear why! Never mind. Oh, and Merry Christmas

Edited

Well that's great that you are independently wealthy. However, most people don't own property independently, they have mortgages that are reliant on two peoples wages. You must realise that you are in a small minority to own a property in a desirable area outright before you had children?

If I had waited until I owned a property outright on my own before I had started my family I would never have had children!

I do t really understand your last paragraph.

3WildOnes · 20/12/2023 17:40

@soyaalmond should my husband also get some self respect? I imagine that he would also struggle with turning our children's lives upside down if he ever became unhappy in our marriage. He would feel equally reluctant to pull our children out of their schools, sell our family home, move them away from their friends and only get to spend 50% of time with them. Or is it only women you hold in such contempt?

Santashelperisonstrike · 20/12/2023 18:16

soyaalmond · 20/12/2023 17:18

I guess you would choose to move your children from their schools where they are happy and settled? Move them to a tiny flat in a less safe area away from all of their friends? Tbh I don't think either way is right or wrong and in the case of abuse I would 100% move but if my husband was just a bit useless it would be a bloody tough decision to make! Life isn't black and white

WRONG:

Neither me, nor my off springs are financially reliant on a man i.e. their father.

I would move back to my mortgage-free 3 bed flat in Chelsea (which I bought and owned before I started breeding).

I ensured I (their mother) was not dependent on a man before I started procreating.

No, I will not swear at you. You have your deal you have signed up to deal with, which, to be fair, is much already, as your post has just confirmed, to you.

Whilst here, may I mention that NONE is discussing DV victims who need and only get support as it should be? Not clear why those who have made themselves financially dependent on fathers of their off springs like to wrap themselves with DV victims, who none is discussing on here? guess it is clear why! Never mind. Oh, and Merry Christmas

Edited

I mean this kindly @soyaalmond , but if you’ve been fortunate enough to own a mortgage free 3 bed flat in Chelsea, while your kids are young, then I’d suggest you perhaps aren’t really aware of the reality for the vast majority of people.

It would require a large amount of inherited wealth, or possibly a career in a sector that gives eye watering salaries. The latter often relying on vast amounts of privilege to access the required opportunities.

I hope your assets dwarf your DH’s because he is entitled to half of all of it. ( unless you’ve stayed unmarried)

Lwrenagain · 25/01/2024 07:36

Well fuck me @Jixg since this thread they've all been out in full force. It's been awful since Christmas!

I just think we need a MN little community where we all Club together, buy land and we can keep it for these lasses needing to escape these twat bastard partners!

Every day there is an influx of truly bad situations for women who are intelligent, caring, smart and deserving and instead they're saddled with some arsehole.

Naptrappedmummy · 25/01/2024 09:39

I will say that I get frustrated with these ‘accidental’ pregnancies six months into a relationship. I don’t really believe that any pregnancy is accidental any more, as in, the woman was using contraception effectively and it just didn’t work. In most cases they just become lax about it in the moment because they really fancy the bloke and have a romantic delusion that a baby would be a great addition to their new love, so if it happens it does.

And there do seem to be women who have a baby with every boyfriend they have. You see it on here all the time - woman has 2 children, the youngest of whom is only 2 or 3, and is already pregnant again by a ‘new DP’.

In these cases I find it hard to rustle up sympathy when the man turns out to be feckless and buggers off leaving them with no cash and several children, for whom the taxpayer must now step in to feed/house.

Yes men who do that are wasters and deserve to be fully pursued for the money. But it makes me want to bash my head against a wall that as women we have multiple FREE forms of contraception that are highly effective, FREE abortion with a generous time limit, and yet they STILL magically find themselves pregnant and trying to convince people it was a ‘total accident’.

Honeychickpea · 25/01/2024 14:55

Naptrappedmummy · 25/01/2024 09:39

I will say that I get frustrated with these ‘accidental’ pregnancies six months into a relationship. I don’t really believe that any pregnancy is accidental any more, as in, the woman was using contraception effectively and it just didn’t work. In most cases they just become lax about it in the moment because they really fancy the bloke and have a romantic delusion that a baby would be a great addition to their new love, so if it happens it does.

And there do seem to be women who have a baby with every boyfriend they have. You see it on here all the time - woman has 2 children, the youngest of whom is only 2 or 3, and is already pregnant again by a ‘new DP’.

In these cases I find it hard to rustle up sympathy when the man turns out to be feckless and buggers off leaving them with no cash and several children, for whom the taxpayer must now step in to feed/house.

Yes men who do that are wasters and deserve to be fully pursued for the money. But it makes me want to bash my head against a wall that as women we have multiple FREE forms of contraception that are highly effective, FREE abortion with a generous time limit, and yet they STILL magically find themselves pregnant and trying to convince people it was a ‘total accident’.

I agree with every word of this post. Unless some people are being untruthful, Mumsnet must have the most contraceptively challenged women in the world as members.

Does it not occur to them that "accidental" pregnancies almost always breed resentment that eventually poisons the relationship? I have seen this play out so many times, and it always makes me sad for the child involved.

As for the women who feel that they have to have a baby with each boyfriend, why? If you already have kids and the new man in question already has kids, that is already a complicated family dynamic. Why would you add the further layer of complication to it that Yours, Mine, Ours always brings? Don't the existing kids matter more than your desire to cement the relationship with a baby? That rarely works anyway.

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/01/2024 15:20

Naptrappedmummy · 25/01/2024 09:39

I will say that I get frustrated with these ‘accidental’ pregnancies six months into a relationship. I don’t really believe that any pregnancy is accidental any more, as in, the woman was using contraception effectively and it just didn’t work. In most cases they just become lax about it in the moment because they really fancy the bloke and have a romantic delusion that a baby would be a great addition to their new love, so if it happens it does.

And there do seem to be women who have a baby with every boyfriend they have. You see it on here all the time - woman has 2 children, the youngest of whom is only 2 or 3, and is already pregnant again by a ‘new DP’.

In these cases I find it hard to rustle up sympathy when the man turns out to be feckless and buggers off leaving them with no cash and several children, for whom the taxpayer must now step in to feed/house.

Yes men who do that are wasters and deserve to be fully pursued for the money. But it makes me want to bash my head against a wall that as women we have multiple FREE forms of contraception that are highly effective, FREE abortion with a generous time limit, and yet they STILL magically find themselves pregnant and trying to convince people it was a ‘total accident’.

Wrong. Have a look at this. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/09/14/sunday-review/unplanned-pregnancies.html

I'm the first woman in four generations to have a child IN wedlock in my family. It was luck. Luck; my lack of knowledge, naiveté, attempted sexual assaults by men, bereavement and other things didn't result in a pregnancy without a good man. Contraception, even used correctly, isn't foolproof. And most many of us use it 'typically' not perfectly.

How Likely Is It That Birth Control Could Let You Down? (Published 2014)

Charts of probabilities of unintended pregnancy while using different contraception methods, for up to 10 years.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/09/14/sunday-review/unplanned-pregnancies.html

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