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AIBU to be angry about photo of me taking without my consent

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Annoyedofnorfolk · 03/12/2023 09:38

Last week I was walking our dog, it was first thing in the morning and admittedly I wasn't looking my best - just pulled a hoody on!

Unbeknownst to me, somebody who works with my partner took a photo of me whilst he was on a building site and sent it to my partner on social media (and perhaps also sent to others) with a very nasty comment about my appearance and weight. I have never met this man, and he doesn't know anything about me or what is going on in my life right now - I can only presume he recognised our dog. My partner told me about the picture.

I have been so angry about this, my partner is also very angry and has said something - the person who has taken the photo has doubled down said "it was only a joke and basically get over yourself". To be honest I have little time for people who resort to saying "it was a joke" when their nastiness is called out.

I want to email the company he works for - he did this on the company clock, from a company vehicle - he may be my partner's workmate, but I am also a member of the public, and as such I have a right to privacy and should be able to take my dog for a walk without being photographed and made fun of, he has invaded my privacy - it will impact on me, as I will be reluctant to walk that way again. My partner says he won't be bothered if I do, and it will be taken seriously as it is a reputable company, but I'm not sure if that is over reacting. Would be unreasonable to do this, or should I just forget it as the bloke is clearly a childish misogynistic arsehole.

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sugarandsweetener · 04/12/2023 10:06

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 04/12/2023 08:19

From other threads that poster has a habit of telling us plebs that we don't meet their standards of dress and behaviour and general attitude. When they appear on a thread I just assume they're on a windup.

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well on this thread i’m with the overwhelming majority - tell his employer

and you?

EasternStandard · 04/12/2023 10:09

SerafinasGoose · 04/12/2023 09:22

This post bears requoting.

But it's now common knowledge that this site is crawling with MRAs, who make a particular beeline for threads posted by women who are victims of male harassment and abuse. It wouldn't occur to me to go to a men's discussion forum and start telling off all the men there.

This says something about systemic male privilege.

It is a good post

It’s also why the CCS sounds like a good scheme. Any woman might feel as the op does and not sure whether to report.

It’s good that an underperforming sector (in terms of public interaction) has companies who have signed up. This means harassment can be looked in to

SerafinasGoose · 04/12/2023 10:10

Annoyedofnorfolk · 04/12/2023 00:31

@LaurieStrode
Believe it or not, some couples prefer to deal with things together - I don’t need shielding - if some creepy guy is taking pictures of me I want to know about it even if it does upset me - everyone is different, I think my partner knows what the best approach is within our relationship more than you.

That poster is curiously overinvested in this thread. There's a pattern to this, as there is with many of the posters who fall over themselves to excuse abusive, harassing, misogynistic men. They make a beeline for any and every thread in which women dare to complain about this, or seek advice on what to do about it.

On this site they are ten-a-penny to the extent that it's now white noise.

Ofa · 04/12/2023 10:46

OP report him to the police for harassment, andd his employer for use if company vehicle/time to harass you. It’s a criminal offence and also a breach of his employment contract.

And ignore all the misogynistic trolls on this thread. Because of Mumsnet’s refusal to silence gender critical women and the site’s support for women trying to leave violent men, this site is now absolutely crawling with men pretending to be women so that they can upset vulnerable women.

billy1966 · 04/12/2023 10:46

mummymeister · 04/12/2023 09:18

To all those posters saying not to contact the Police or they wont be interested etc you have completely failed to understand how the Police work. They will log this incident against this man. they may take no action and you might not hear anything ever again. But it will have been logged. and just think if in the future he does become a stalker or over step the mark to an even greater extent? Your report is evidence. they will use it to show that his behaviour wasnt a one off but sustained over a number of years and increasing in its intensity. Thats why the Police ask for things to be reported. it builds a profile and a case. if he does nothing else in the future then it just sits there. but if he does it really helps to show prolonged behaviour. this is why its so important to report things that others on here say are trivial or whatever. yes on its own it might be but taken with 50 other incidences?

Excellent post.

My friends daughter got into a taxi pissed years ago, and the driver was inappropriate with her, put his hand on her leg, tried to kiss her. She got out of the car and ran in to her house. Her mother was very upset because she was being increasingly reckless with her safety. They reported it to the police, just his name, what happened, nothing formal.
Three years later he seriously sexually assaulted a woman and the police came back to her and she was asked for a statement. One other woman had unofficially reported him too. The police thought they had a good case. Covid happened so I have no idea of the outcome.

Two years ago my son, during Covid, was cycling to his job and he must have annoyed a driver. The driver came up beside him and actually tried to jam him into the path of an oncoming bus. He got the most awful fright. He absolutely could have been killed. I reported it and the police were excellent. They said this type of behaviour is NEVER a one off and every report invariably creates a pattern of behaviour for the police to build a picture with. Fortunately it was daytime and a main road with camera coverage.

ManateeFair · 04/12/2023 11:08

I was so angry I said to my partner I was going to contact the head office and complain and he said “do it”, he is also going to speak to someone about it

Then definitely complain. Your partner is the one who works with this arsehole and he has no qualms about complaining, so there is zero reason that you shouldn't.

FWIW unless he does this all the time, I doubt he'll be sacked; he'll more likely get a warning. So you're not likely to be responsible for his wife and kids starving at Christmas.

DissidentDaughter · 04/12/2023 12:08

@SerafinasGoose Thanks for your observations this morning. As a relative newbie/infrequent poster, I was surprised by the persistence of some of the convoluted nonsense. And @RantyAnty was spot on.

Now fine-tuning my radar. Have a good day, everyone.

billy1966 · 04/12/2023 12:16

SerafinasGoose · 04/12/2023 09:22

This post bears requoting.

But it's now common knowledge that this site is crawling with MRAs, who make a particular beeline for threads posted by women who are victims of male harassment and abuse. It wouldn't occur to me to go to a men's discussion forum and start telling off all the men there.

This says something about systemic male privilege.

Excellent post.

I would also think that the majority of men would find his actions absolutely awful, certainly those that populate my life.

LoveSkaMusic · 04/12/2023 12:47

I'm pretty sure this falls foul of the malicious communications act. I'd recommend reading up on it and quote it if necessary in the email to his company.

funinthesun19 · 04/12/2023 13:37

Outliers · 03/12/2023 09:45

Threatening his livelihood (I.e. job security) in this current climate seems like a disproportionate escalation.

Meh. He threatened it himself with his own behaviour. I don’t think it’s now OP’s responsibility to “be kind” and consider how he will pay his bills if he loses his job.

billy1966 · 04/12/2023 14:33

funinthesun19 · 04/12/2023 13:37

Meh. He threatened it himself with his own behaviour. I don’t think it’s now OP’s responsibility to “be kind” and consider how he will pay his bills if he loses his job.

Only on MN are you responsible for the livelihood of a prick photographing you and mocking you when you are out and about in public minding your own business.🙄

Meanwhile in the real world most women would push can very hard with a scorched earth complaint and not give a damn if he loses his job.

electriclight · 04/12/2023 16:42

Please come back and let us know what happened after you called them op.

leamington66 · 04/12/2023 17:43

It should be done as a Subject Access Request and find out where else it was sent.

axolotlfloof · 04/12/2023 17:50

Misogyny isn't a hate crime.
Taking a photo of someone in a public place is legal.
He is a twat.

agonyau · 04/12/2023 17:52

Report him - Wolf whistling was barred from building sites years ago, this form of harassment will fall into same category so I’m sure his employers will take a dim view of his behaviour and, at the very least he’ll get a reprimand, and you will feel better having taught this cretin a lesson.

HarrietPoole · 04/12/2023 17:53

Outliers · 03/12/2023 09:45

Threatening his livelihood (I.e. job security) in this current climate seems like a disproportionate escalation.

Women not wanting to make a fuss by "overreacting" is exactly how men get away with misogyny and sexual assault.

Jillybloop393 · 04/12/2023 18:03

I wouldn't be overly happy about the photo if it was taken when I looked an absolute mess, however if it only got sent to my partner, I suppose I'd put up with it. If it was posted on fb or similar, without my consent, I'd be cross. The vile comments that he made would really make me mad - how dare he be rude about you?!!!! For the comments alone, though, I'd report him. He sounds like a nasty, rude, ignorant piece of sh*t, and should be taught that such behaviour is totally unacceptable.

H007 · 04/12/2023 18:04

Definitely report it. It might not change what he did to you, but might stop him from doing it to someone else.

chriscarol · 04/12/2023 18:13

Definitely email the company make him feel uncomfortable like he did you xxx

Glittertwins · 04/12/2023 18:13

I believe that some companies take things like this very seriously - wasn't there something about the catcalling and wolf whistling from building sites to women as they walked past that sparked it off? This time you have hard proof that what he did was on the company dime and offensive so I'd be calling them for a polite discussion and seeing what they say.

Sennelier1 · 04/12/2023 18:16

He misbehaved and was an asshole but he appologised. What do you expect to get móre out of this by filing a complaint? ?

SerafinasGoose · 04/12/2023 18:18

Sennelier1 · 04/12/2023 18:16

He misbehaved and was an asshole but he appologised. What do you expect to get móre out of this by filing a complaint? ?

He didn't apologise. He doubled down. It's there in black and white in the OP's updates.

His conduct is inexcusable and should be reported to his employer. After that it's for them to deal with him as they see fit. Fire him, hopefully.

Justintimeee · 04/12/2023 18:19

Report

Whyyoulyingfor · 04/12/2023 18:23

What a horrible thing to do. Definitely report him. You’re right, as soon as bullies are called out “it’s only banter/joke” comes out. It’s only a joke if both parties are laughing and they are not.

VisionsOfSplendour · 04/12/2023 18:25

Sennelier1 · 04/12/2023 18:16

He misbehaved and was an asshole but he appologised. What do you expect to get móre out of this by filing a complaint? ?

You think I he made a sincere apology?.
He sounds like a knobhead who could do with being called out

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