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I've just made myself look so insecure and desperate haven't I?

424 replies

arghksk · 30/11/2023 21:32

Been on 4 dates with a guy I met around 7 weeks ago (dates been slow due to my schedule). Wasn't too fussed on him at first but starting to like him and look forward to hearing from him.

However, I am aware I have an anxious attachment style but recently I have noticed a change in the tone of our texts. He still initiates equally but the texts are short, there is less banter on his side, hardly any questions etc. There's just been a change and I feel I am carrying the conversation even when he texts first.

He has said he isn't chatting or seeing anyone but of course that's really none of my business. I do wonder if he's met someone else but once again not sure if I'm just being paranoid due to my attachment style.

Tonight I sent him this text, 'Is everything okay? I feel like the tone in our messages have changed and I’m just bugging you. Just say if I am x'

He replied, 'nah just watching the football x'

I am cringing now and feel like I've made myself appear so desperate and needy now.

Have I? Is that quite a dismissive text he sent? I really don't know if I can do this. I feel so so so triggered and feel sick to my stomach. Can't eat properly as this knot in my stomach.

Struggle to see the wood from the trees, whether it's my issues or whether something is really wrong.

OP posts:
Goodluckanddontfitup · 30/11/2023 22:44

I think you just need to chill a bit and see how it goes. 7 weeks and 4 dates isn’t a lot, continuous texting might just not be his style. It would be a shame to over think and self sabotage what could turn into a good thing. Equally, maybe he is just ‘not that into you’ - it’s all just too early to tell and putting pressure on it is not going to help, just try to chill and let things develop naturally and see how it goes.

Mirabai · 30/11/2023 22:47

The message was fine OP just stop texting him. Some people don’t like texting I don’t.

Depdawg · 30/11/2023 22:49

arghksk · 30/11/2023 21:42

I text him that and he has replied saying he's glad he doesn't go to the games anymore as it's minus 3. Shall I not reply until tomorrow?

He's watching footy! The comment about
The temperature is just running on from that.
He seems to be acting normally.
Just go with the flow and enjoy Saturday.

GarlicMaybeNot · 30/11/2023 22:50

gannett · 30/11/2023 22:06

Stop thinking about what he's thinking! Stop second-guessing him (it's futile) and concentrate on what YOU want.

If you're finding the messages a bit boring now - instead of thinking "is he losing interest", you should be thinking "I am losing interest - he needs to up his game to get it back".

Switch your mindset from "does he like me?" to "do I like him?"

If his chat is getting worse, joke about it in person. Rib him about how his earlier messages were better. That's not needy - it's telling him what he needs to do to keep you.

Sex? Again it doesn't matter what he thinks or what he expects. If you want to shag him because you think it'll be fun, do so. If you don't want to or don't think it'll be fun, don't. No overthinking required.

Dating is about finding someone compatible, not contorting yourself into all sorts of shapes to become "compatible".

Switch your mindset from "does he like me?" to "do I like him?"

Dating is about finding someone compatible, not contorting yourself into all sorts of shapes to become "compatible".

Gannett's reply is perfect.

Depdawg · 30/11/2023 22:51

arghksk · 30/11/2023 22:11

He's text again with football result

Exactly. He would probably be surprised
If he knew what you were thinking.
He's laid back.

Prolapsefears · 30/11/2023 22:51

Hibye23289 · 30/11/2023 22:09

I think what's changed is you wasn't too fussed in the beginning so would have had a cool aura but now you like him you are more sensitive to him and notice things more. It is hard I know.

Yes this hits the nail on the head. And I'm like you OP so I sympathise!

arghksk · 30/11/2023 22:51

@Depdawg yeah I'm sure he'd run a mile if he knew what I was thinking 🤣

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YerArseInParsley · 30/11/2023 22:52

Unfortunately when you asked if everything's OK he thinks you mean at that moment. Men Can't read the signs sometimes.

Maybe don't reply straight away when he sends a text, leave him hanging for a while, see how much effort he puts in to chasing you.

BorrowersAreVermin · 30/11/2023 22:54

The thing about written messages is that they don't always come across as intended. See him face to face at the weekend and see how it goes.

Depdawg · 30/11/2023 22:56

arghksk · 30/11/2023 22:51

@Depdawg yeah I'm sure he'd run a mile if he knew what I was thinking 🤣

😂I've had similar. We can overthink things because we want to stop ourselves from getting hurt. Our
Defences go up.
Let him send the next text now and be as laid back as he is.
Feel the mood on Saturday. Go from there then.

HarryOHayandBettyOBarley · 30/11/2023 22:56

LittleMonks11 · 30/11/2023 22:03

Get yourself a little tummy bug for Saturday and cancel. See how that flies with him. Give yourself a chance to think and regroup.

This is a good idea OP.

Don't worry about how you come across to him. You need to take care of yourself first and foremost.

I'd also cut back on the text messaging.

I'd definitely cancel this weekend and then get to know each other more before re-arranging staying over. Phoning and speaking to each other is a lot better than texting. When DH and I first met, we'd arrange to phone each other on a particular evening during the week if we weren't free to meet up with each other and then meet up at the weekend. Other times we'd meet during the week instead instead of phoning. Both are a better way to get to know each other than brief texting?

YerArseInParsley · 30/11/2023 22:59

JollyGoodWine · 30/11/2023 21:47

Your text was perfectly reasonable, honest and open. Hard to know out of context, but his reply was possibly a bit dismissive. But after only 4 dates and 7 weeks, he shouldn't be making "less effort" becauss he's getting "more comfortable".

Hold back a bit - don't have him stay over if you have doubts.

But is he really making less of an effort? OP said above he's been texting everyday, the only thing that's changed is the jokes. I think maybe OP is over thinking things.

AllisColm · 30/11/2023 23:02

4 dates in 7 weeks is not much. You should be desperate to see each other.

However if you feel this way then I am not sure why you are having him stay over?

Not everyone likes texting endlessly though and especially men. My H is in trouble with his own sisters for not contributing enough to the family WhatsApp 😂. He was very much - text to make arrangements man when I met him.

RandomButtons · 30/11/2023 23:04

arghksk · 30/11/2023 21:44

No we haven't. I don't think I'm going to have sex Saturday for this reason. Why can't I be normal?

It’s not you, it’s him.

Puffalicious · 30/11/2023 23:14

YerArseInParsley · 30/11/2023 22:52

Unfortunately when you asked if everything's OK he thinks you mean at that moment. Men Can't read the signs sometimes.

Maybe don't reply straight away when he sends a text, leave him hanging for a while, see how much effort he puts in to chasing you.

I totally agree.

Do a little bit of being unavailable now & again, let him chase. I remember distinctly a conversation many years ago- around 25- when a friend asked me 'Why are men always falling over you, Puffalicious? What's the secret?" A very good friend piped up 'Because she comes across as not fussed, she has a busy; full life & makes it clear they need to fit around that'. She was dead right. She didn't bullshit me with the 'Because she's gorgeous etc' as I was no better looking than anyone else, I genuinely think it was because I was the one dancing for the joy, not looking for a man/ courting the male gaze, and genuinely laughing at something stupid.

There's definitely something in that.

FourteenTog · 30/11/2023 23:16

Please, please don't do back and forth texting while he is watching the game. Limit yourself to 3 a day and wait for him to initiate. Exhale when he crosses your mind!

Guesswho88 · 30/11/2023 23:18

I know how you feel but if a guy didn't like you, you would know cos he just wouldn't talk to you lol. So I would just suck it up, get a grip (in the nicest possible way) and carry on. Think of fun things to talk about. Keep it light hearted.

tachycardigan · 30/11/2023 23:21

Do not have sex with that man!

FeelingNeedy · 30/11/2023 23:25

OP I’ve been seeing a guy for a little while & it was perfect at the start but the past month he has massively pulled back & I’m exactly the same as you…noticing changes in the way he texts me and sounding insane if I point out tiny things. This thread has made me realise I have an anxious attachment style and the more I feel someone pulling away the more I cling on to them/the relationship.

Not much help for your situation but just to stay stop beating yourself up about it, it’s not just you. I’ve also avoided relationships for a long time because I don’t handle this bit very well. Don’t lose yourself trying to make him treat you differently xx

arghksk · 30/11/2023 23:30

tachycardigan · 30/11/2023 23:21

Do not have sex with that man!

Why

OP posts:
HomiesAlone · 30/11/2023 23:32

He is going to play with you and then go off when he is bored. Its very likely you have picked an avoidance attachment. He will keep triggering you. Pick someone soft who really shows you he cares, this one responded in a very aloof way to you.

Therealweld · 30/11/2023 23:33

I wouldn't tell him the truth at this point.
As PP suggests, say you have a bug tomorrow and will reschedule when you are felwibg better

If he is genuine, he will show care and empathy.

Test him.

FrasierReboot · 30/11/2023 23:33

OP, I am a firm believer in trusting your gut. If you feel he's being a bit different or off then you are probably right.

You have only recently met so he should still be trying to make a big effort with you.

Like others have said, I'd be a bit cooler with him and I wouldn't have sex with him on Saturday.

StuartSheehyisBack · 30/11/2023 23:35

arghksk · 30/11/2023 23:30

Why

Do you really have to ask? Come on OP, work it out

ALargeChardonnayPlease · 30/11/2023 23:40

When did you both decide he was going to stay at yours on Saturday? Did you notice his attitude change towards you around the same time? If so, it could be that he knows sex is most likely a sure thing, so, no longer needs to try. I'd be inclined to agree with those advising you to cancel, even if it just gives you the space and time to think about it properly

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