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AIBU?

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DH asked why I hate his mother

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GelatinousDynamo · 29/11/2023 09:33

My husband and I have been married for 2 years, together for 9 years. Yesterday he asked me why I hate his mother, told me that it makes him sad because she always goes to so much trouble to please everyone. I don't hate his mother, I told him so, but he doesn't believe me. I told him that I don't hate her, but that I do dislike her because her "pleasing everyone" thing is just an act, that she just basically always ignores everyone's actual wishes and does as she pleases, so I prefer to keep my distance. He's now in a huff, because apparently I just decided to dislike her for no reason and am being petty. So AIBU to dislike her, am I being irrational? Sorry but this is going to be a long one:

It's true that I don't particularly like her. It would be easier if I could just name one strong reason for my dislike, but it's more the bigger picture. I'll try to describe a few situations where his mother "stood out negatively":

  • She always tells me to tell her honestly if something goes too far or I don't like anything she does. But when I did talk to her once (she - out of the blue - started ironing clothes, including my underwear, and I asked her never to do that again) I found out later that she told my husband how much I had hurt her, when all she wanted to do was help.
  • She interferes everywhere. She looks in every drawer, even rearranged our kitchen utensils because "it's better this way". She basically treats our house as hers, I had to beg my husband to not give his parents our new keys, because they used the old ones to just let themselves in whenever - of course, always "to help out", which we have never asked for.
  • Our wedding. My mum died a year before our wedding. During all the preparations, she kept hinting that she wished to replace my mother in certain situations, kept reminding me that "you don't have a mother". For me, the loss was still very raw, I missed my mum every step of the way, and these comments really hurt me, so I distanced myself from her and stopped telling or showing her stuff. She wanted to help me prepare on the day of the wedding, but I declined - I preferred just spending the morning with my oldest friend. But she came to my hotel room anyway, together with two of her sisters-in-law, then just sat there, and kept asking me if I liked her dress - I honestly couldn't care less about her dress on my own wedding day. She also ignored our wishes and tried to enforce "family traditions". The evening of the wedding, she pulled my husband aside and started crying because she didn't feel involved and hated being left out. She has been left out and I could understand her wanting to address that - but the decision to do that on our wedding day, and ruin our wedding for my husband, was a conscious, premeditated decision and totally inappropriate in my opinion.
  • Another example is our puppy. Where should I even begin? He doesn't like her because she won't leave him alone. She constantly tries to cuddle and stroke him. No dog likes being touched constantly, so he avoids her. I've tried to tell her to give him some space, that he'll come to her on his own terms, but she won't listen. Instead she has started to feed the dog mountains of treats. I've asked her a thousand times not to give him so many - I have no problem with her giving him the occasional treat, but 200g of beef for a little puppy is just too much, and he gets sick afterwards. She completely ignores me - I stand there asking her to stop overfeeding the dog, and she just continues shoving beef into him... She is so concetrated on her own pleasure while feeding him that she just doesn't care that she's actually potentially hurting him.

I think that's the main problem I have with her - she always knows best and is always very keen on telling everyone what a helpful, involved person she is. For me, she just always has to be the center of attention. She only has one child and only brothers, she is adored in the family and her wishes always take priority. Her "always trying to please everyone" is in my opinion just an act, because she does not really care about the wishes and preferences of other people, she just does as she wants. It's hard to put in words, it seems petty to dislike her for all these little things, but I just can't get over it. Her handling of our puppy has made me reconsider having kids with my husband (he will tell her "no" once but then not react when she does as she pleases anyway, because "she means well"). So AIBU to dislike her so, am I being petty and is my husband right that I should just let it all go and try more?

OP posts:
Diamonde · 30/11/2023 21:22

blackandwhitephotos · 29/11/2023 21:04

She ironed your underwear, rearranged your cutlery drawer and is too affectionate with your puppy?

She sounds like a monster. 🙄

Ok mil. Just text op, you don't need to come on here

JayJayj · 30/11/2023 21:27

You are not being unreasonable at all. And do not at all have children. Especially when your husband doesn’t appear to have your back on this. Because there will just be bigger problems.
I feel similar to my mil and she isn’t as bad as yours. She also doesn’t listen and does what she wants. Pretends that she does want to but ignores what is said.
I had a surprise baby and even though she could have been worse it’s been really hard. I do think I would have gotten postpartum depression/anxiety regardless but she has made it 10 times worse.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 30/11/2023 21:35

This woman birthed and looked after him. He loves her and you should respect that

Most people here feel respect should be a two way thing.

Duchydutch · 30/11/2023 21:40

Sounds typically Passive Aggressive behaviour to me.
Tell her in a very calm, quiet voice, you appreciate her help and when you need her you’ll let her know and that you need her to respect this, so that she shows you that you can trust her.
pig she doesn’t, you have your answer.

YNK · 30/11/2023 22:00

What a control freak!

She is the one triangulating and no matter how hard you try to get her to communicate like an adult you will fail.
She is determined to take over and ruin your relationship and if you bring a child into the equation she will alienate you from them from the get-go!

You would not be unreasonable to go no contact, with or without her son.

Nanny0gg · 30/11/2023 22:31

blackandwhitephotos · 29/11/2023 21:04

She ironed your underwear, rearranged your cutlery drawer and is too affectionate with your puppy?

She sounds like a monster. 🙄

How to minimise...

Nanny0gg · 30/11/2023 22:37

KY123 · 30/11/2023 19:13

Sorry, you sound abit ridiculous. That’s his Mother, yes she sounds like he has some traits that you might not completely understand but they do not sound like red flags. If anything she’s trying to be caring and you seem to pushing away. Would you have preferred her to have left you grieving on your wedding day without trying to have some involvement? Perhaps your grief is pushing her away?

I do find in the western world some of you women are completely disrespectful towards your Husband’s family members. This woman birthed and looked after him. He loves her and you should respect that. I actually think you’re the problem here. If you don’t see a way forward, I would at least try to be kind if you can’t be her best friend.

You don't mind people rummaging through your drawers which are full of your personal things?

What paperwork might she have snooped through?

You wouldn't mind her feeding your dog unsuitable foods which could make it very ill?

You wouldn't mind her changing your kitchen so it's her way not yours?

And the wedding day was awful! They didn't have the right relationship for her to behave like that!

So what if she birthed the OP's husband? Doesn't make her a good mother, mother-in-law or person!

Ivymom · 30/11/2023 23:13

You might try to explain it to your husband as death by a 1000 paper cuts. If she overstepped every now and then, but accepted your boundaries when told and even attempted to follow them, you wouldn’t be building up resentment towards her. He is making it impossible for you to get along with MIL and possibly the rest of his relatives by refusing to consider your wellbeing and uphold boundaries. If you were to call her out, end the visit or prohibit her from your home, she would play the victim and his relatives would make you out to be the bad guy. Your husband may even go along with them in vilifying you.

If you are anything like me, you cannot be happy with the current arrangement and the bad feelings and resentment will just continue to build. If he wants to continue the marriage, have a child with you or have you get along with MIL and his relatives, he must intercede on your behalf. He needs to have a conversation with his mom, starting with telling her that if she continues to over feed the dog, which causes it to be ill, then she won’t be allowed to see the dog at all. Next he needs to address that she needs to stay out of your personal spaces or he won’t be willing to welcome her into your home. He doesn’t need to give her reasons, and he definitely doesn’t need to blame you. He just needs to tell her that the current arrangement isn’t working and in the future you all will handle your own household chores, decide where your belongings will go and she can only feed the dog the treats that you all provide when you provide them.

exaltedwombat · 30/11/2023 23:28

Someone WANTS to do your ironing, and you refuse? There's more wrong here than a MIL being a MIL. But it's possible you're self-generating a lot of it. Just possible...

laminaHK · 30/11/2023 23:37

Aquamarine1029 · 29/11/2023 09:45

I would have your husband read what you've told us here. If the show were on the other foot, he wouldn't like her either. Your MIL is intrusive, disrespectful, and incredibly self-absorbed.

Also, if your husband isn't going to like the answer, he shouldn't ask.

Absolutely agree

that list itself is enough for any sane person to agree with, as hard as it might be for your DH to hear.

laminaHK · 30/11/2023 23:37

exaltedwombat · 30/11/2023 23:28

Someone WANTS to do your ironing, and you refuse? There's more wrong here than a MIL being a MIL. But it's possible you're self-generating a lot of it. Just possible...

Did you even read past that point or

Selenitetower · 01/12/2023 00:03

I feel like your DH should be respecting your feelings in this scenario. I personally can’t stand my in-laws and they aren’t to fond of me either. They have been very critical of me and spent years implying I wasn’t good enough for their son (ie asking me what I intend on doing with my life seeing as I have no ambition whilst I was a SAHM raising our children). He has a relationship with them, our children have a relationship with them and I do not. He isn’t outwardly bothered by me not liking his family and if they speak ill of me I’m unsure of he defends me and personally couldn’t care less if he didn’t, if they had the gall the say anything to my face they all know I wouldn’t hold back with my response. This works for us, not everyone’s going to get along all the time but if you can remain civil towards each other I simply can’t understand what his issue is, he sounds as self indulgent as his mother in regards to expecting her way to be seen as the right way.

SerafinasGoose · 01/12/2023 10:32

He has a right to maintain a relationship with his mother.

He does not have the right to insist that you do likewise.

FourteenTog · 01/12/2023 19:14

exaltedwombat · 30/11/2023 23:28

Someone WANTS to do your ironing, and you refuse? There's more wrong here than a MIL being a MIL. But it's possible you're self-generating a lot of it. Just possible...

Yes, everyone wants their underwear drawer set to rights by the in laws! Not. Also, who even irons underwear? It's such an invented and intrusive task. It's just short of witchcraft (applying hot metal to garments that cover sensitive areas...).

Pinkfluff76 · 01/12/2023 19:41

YANBU she sounds awful. None of what you’ve said is petty or small things. Those are all big and yes all about her. What I want to know is who are the 11% who voted saying YABU?!???

GrilledPineapple · 01/12/2023 20:17

This is a mum and only son thing - my own mother is similar. They just can’t bear to let you go…

Atethehalloweenchocs · 01/12/2023 20:50

*exaltedwombat · Yesterday 23:28

Someone WANTS to do your ironing, and you refuse? There's more wrong here than a MIL being a MIL. But it's possible you're self-generating a lot of it. Just possible...*

Almost exactly what my ex said when his mother did our ironing. Of the pile of clean laundry which had been folded and put in the back of the wardrobe in our bedroom as I was intending to do it when she left. If course I was told she was just being nice. The fact she had been snooping was completely glossed over. And to iron it and leave it out was tantamount to her pissing in the living room to mark her territory. She was a good ironer though, I will give her that.

LindorDoubleChoc · 01/12/2023 20:55

As I expect I will be deleted for saying, interesting first post AI. Sorry, OP.

autienotnaughty · 01/12/2023 21:28

Your reasons for disliking her are valid. I think your dh doesn't see it because it's normal to him as is the need to please her.

It's unlikely to change and would get considerably worse if you have children together as her sense of entitlement would increase.

I would tell him he needs to respect and support your boundaries with regards to his mother. If he can't do that then you have a problem

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 01/12/2023 23:08

Re the ironing thing, it can be a tool of control and erasing boundaries, and also humiliation sometimes. When I moved in to the small “granny annexe” in my parents’ house after being put on sick leave, I was told not to do the washing for environmental reasons. This means my mother gets to know if I ever have a minor period leak, gets to sniff my clothes and make a face because apparent I smell (literally nobody else has ever detected said smell) and also walk in through my bedroom whenever she wants because the “washing machine needs to be used”.

ilovesushi · 02/12/2023 13:21

@CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau that sounds horrendous. I hope you can move out soon. x

Mirabai · 02/12/2023 15:22

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 01/12/2023 23:08

Re the ironing thing, it can be a tool of control and erasing boundaries, and also humiliation sometimes. When I moved in to the small “granny annexe” in my parents’ house after being put on sick leave, I was told not to do the washing for environmental reasons. This means my mother gets to know if I ever have a minor period leak, gets to sniff my clothes and make a face because apparent I smell (literally nobody else has ever detected said smell) and also walk in through my bedroom whenever she wants because the “washing machine needs to be used”.

Surely they answer to “I will do your washing” is “No you won’t”.

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 02/12/2023 15:29

@Mirabai normally it ought to be.

Mirabai · 02/12/2023 16:39

That sounds like a whole thread in itself.

jasminocereusbritannicus · 03/12/2023 09:32

It’s so difficult, I think.
Im about to be a mother-in-law and I would be devastated if I thought my daughter’s fiancé felt like that about me. BUT, I keep my distance until invited, and certainly don’t act like I own their house! I offer help if it’s asked for.
My ex - mother in law, was very opinionated, and had a way with words that were quite cutting - to all the daughters and son in-laws. But I learned to just carry on doing things my way regardless… and to be fair my ex husband used to stand up for me. She was, conversely, extremely kind and thoughtful too, and always useful in an emergency… of which we had many.

I think it’s a fine line to tread… I don’t suppose you really “hate” her, but you just want her to respect your boundaries. Try to not see her as doing things to purposely upset you - she probably genuinely thinks she’s helping!…..see her as a bit daft, roll your eyes and carry on doing things your way. I’d have put the cutlery draw back the way I wanted it, straight away!

If your husband is an only child, it’s understandable that he was upset when you were honest with him!

we can’t like everyone in our lives… but sometimes we have to rub along , for everyone’s sake.

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