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DH: CF or massive Tw*t?

344 replies

AppelationStation · 29/11/2023 00:25

I'll try to keep it brief.

Worked a 14 hour day yesterday (Monday) with travel to London for meetings. Worked from home today, finishing after 6.30pm because my Chair needed a meeting. Whilst working from home I did both school runs, took the sick dog to the vets, nipped to the shop and made the contents of a pie for tea in my lunch break. Had some flex in my hours because of yesterday but still a full on day. I sat down for 20 mins at 2ish and fell asleep for 10 of them.

Because my trustee meetings went on into the evening, I asked DH, when he got home, to assemble pie, make some mash and boil broccoli. He did so.

Because I didn't cook all of the dinner, he insisted it was my turn to wash the pots. He refuses to have a dishwasher. Usually I cook, he washes. Today he had to do some cooking, so for him it follows I do the dishes. Finished them about 11.

For context, DH does a stress free job he loves that earns just above minimum wage. I am an underpaid CEO in a small non profit that works at the sharp end with people who are homeless and/or domestic abuse survivors. I earn 30% more than he does, have way more responsibility, and still do most of the life admin/ school runs/ cooking /housework. He's a great 'fun dad', around the house, does what he's asked to, rolls his eyes if I dare to complain and considers himself a feminist.

Is he just a bog standard CF husband? Or in serious Massive Twat territory? I genuinely think my current workload will kill me early. He doesn't seem to care.

That wasn't as brief as I intended.

OP posts:
LookItsMeAgain · 29/11/2023 08:05

maddening · 29/11/2023 00:28

Get a dishwasher, source a cleaner and consider whether dh is value for money

All of this!

He doesn't see value in what you do and doesn't appreciate you so you need to start looking after just you.

Perhaps when he isn't waited on hand and foot and comes home to a hot dinner, he'll get a wake up call and start appreciating you. If he doesn't, you can either leave him or kick him out (depending on your living arrangements).

I'm assuming that he needs your salary to go towards the rent/mortgage and utilities?

HeadsUpSide · 29/11/2023 08:05

Bosch Slimline, just big enough for a family of four, so you run it once a day.

20 years ago, my eco feminist husband said no to a dishwasher. Luckily Friends of the Earth magazine had just pointed out it was the eco option.

The slimline one, mostly avoids the whole 'but it's not full' arguement.

Yesterday, DH claimed that men & women are different and that's why an underperforming team in his department had rarely employed a woman.

Sadly, I won the dishwasher battle but lost the feminist war.

Pelham678 · 29/11/2023 08:06

Why does he get to veto the dishwasher. Unless he's going to wash the dishes every single time he gets no say in the matter.

Why are you living like this with someone who has so little care for you. Find your inner warrior and start pushing back and if you can't do this alone, get some therapy. Maybe you were told to pipe down as a child or he's really done a number on you. Either way you deserve better.

Duckswaddle · 29/11/2023 08:07

Refuses to get a dishwasher? Who died and put this prick in charge? Do what you need to do to make your life easier.

ZenNudist · 29/11/2023 08:07

He's both!

You both did work on dinner and should have shared the clear up. Although finishing work at 6.30 is not late and there was plenty of time to have tea and clean up. What else did you do to still be washing up at 11?

Just get the dishwasher and have a word with him about pulling his weight.

MissTrip82 · 29/11/2023 08:07

Earning more or having a more ‘worthwhile’ job aren’t relevant factors, and nobody would think so if the sexes were reversed.

Working more hours is relevant, and should mean he does more of the domestic tasks. One person also doesn’t get to dictate the dishwasher - get one, and anyone who objects is welcome to wash up by hand. And it’s true for anyone that if your partner is exhausted, you do more that night.

I did wonder what you worked as reading all the tasks you performed during a work from home day! Must be a long lunch break.

BerriesNutsConkers · 29/11/2023 08:08

Twat..

If HE won't get a dishwasher why haven't you?
Why are you letting him call the shots?

Pelham678 · 29/11/2023 08:08

HeadsUpSide · 29/11/2023 08:05

Bosch Slimline, just big enough for a family of four, so you run it once a day.

20 years ago, my eco feminist husband said no to a dishwasher. Luckily Friends of the Earth magazine had just pointed out it was the eco option.

The slimline one, mostly avoids the whole 'but it's not full' arguement.

Yesterday, DH claimed that men & women are different and that's why an underperforming team in his department had rarely employed a woman.

Sadly, I won the dishwasher battle but lost the feminist war.

And he didn't see the irony in the fact the underperforming team hadn't employed a woman? He's right though that women are different to men but just drawn the wrong conclusion...

Firms with more female executives 'perform better' - BBC News

men and women in office

Firms with more female executives 'perform better'

Research suggests listed companies do better when women fill more than one in three executive roles.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53548704

NoSquirrels · 29/11/2023 08:09

One thing I’d ask, OP - what’s your communication together like?

Because I didn't cook all of the dinner, he insisted it was my turn to wash the pots. He refuses to have a dishwasher. Usually I cook, he washes. Today he had to do some cooking, so for him it follows I do the dishes. Finished them about 11.

Because in this scenario my DH might ‘insist’ it was my turn, because he ‘cooked’. And I’d insist back - lightheartedly, to begin - that actually I’d also cooked, so it’s 50-50 tonight. He washes and you’ll dry. If he dug his heels in after that it would escalate to less lighthearted - but it would not have ended in me doing them alone at 11pm.

PoppyOrange · 29/11/2023 08:10

It doesn't sound like you like your husband very much regardless of what he's done.

Pelham678 · 29/11/2023 08:10

PoppyOrange · 29/11/2023 08:10

It doesn't sound like you like your husband very much regardless of what he's done.

And it doesn't sound like he deserves it much.

TheOGCCL · 29/11/2023 08:12

The alarming thing about this is him trying to claim he’s a feminist and/ or making light of things. It’s bordering on gaslighting imo. He knows if you were to actually discuss it, the house of cards would topple. He is lazy and if he doesn’t innately understand you don’t have the person you love under so much stress, he needs it pointing out pronto.

Didimum · 29/11/2023 08:12

‘Bog standard CF husbands’ and massive twats are the same thing.

PoppyOrange · 29/11/2023 08:12

Pelham678 · 29/11/2023 08:10

And it doesn't sound like he deserves it much.

So why not do something about it??

3luckystars · 29/11/2023 08:12

I also hope these responses have strengthened you, but am curious why he doesn’t want a dishwasher?
what’s the problem there?

LookItsMeAgain · 29/11/2023 08:13

@HeadsUpSide - run this one by me again please?
"Yesterday, DH claimed that men & women are different and that's why an underperforming team in his department had rarely employed a woman."

How does that work? I'd imagine very poorly 😆
Have they tried employing a woman to be in the team or perhaps run the team?

Mothership4two · 29/11/2023 08:14

As others have said, get a dishwasher and cleaner - unless he agrees to do it all. Then have a sit down and pass over a bulk of what is currently your responsibilities to make life more fair.

Pelham678 · 29/11/2023 08:15

PoppyOrange · 29/11/2023 08:12

So why not do something about it??

Which is what I suggested in my previous post.

Anisette · 29/11/2023 08:16

Massive twat.

Get that dishwasher.

HeadsUpSide · 29/11/2023 08:16

I know @Pelham678 it made me really sad for several reasons.
He's in management now. He's not a bystander.
My career has been a fight, trying to make it in a traditionally male area time after time.
None of the equipment or research in his field needs to be directly operated using a penis.
We have two daughters

PoppyOrange · 29/11/2023 08:17

Pelham678 · 29/11/2023 08:15

Which is what I suggested in my previous post.

So why are you arguing with me??

ChocolateCinderToffee · 29/11/2023 08:17

Behindyouiam · 29/11/2023 04:34

Christmas is coming, buy him a dishwasher!

Perfect!

PoppyOrange · 29/11/2023 08:17

Never mind a dishwasher and a cleaner, get a divorce!

Anisette · 29/11/2023 08:18

HeadsUpSide · 29/11/2023 08:05

Bosch Slimline, just big enough for a family of four, so you run it once a day.

20 years ago, my eco feminist husband said no to a dishwasher. Luckily Friends of the Earth magazine had just pointed out it was the eco option.

The slimline one, mostly avoids the whole 'but it's not full' arguement.

Yesterday, DH claimed that men & women are different and that's why an underperforming team in his department had rarely employed a woman.

Sadly, I won the dishwasher battle but lost the feminist war.

I second the slimline dishwasher.

Hasn't anyone in your DH's company noticed the correlation between underperformance and a department that doesn't employ women?

Vinrouge4 · 29/11/2023 08:18

Just order a dishwasher. He is being controlling by saying you can’t have one.

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