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AIBU to not pick 4 year old DD from school?

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marshyrun · 20/11/2023 11:10

DD2 is 4 and in reception. She’s had the usual on off cough / colds since starting in September and is just coming to the end of a bad cold, she went to school throughout with me just giving her calpol in the mornings.

She woke up today absolutely fine, had breakfast, in good spirits. Still a slight cough but had some calcough before leaving.

School have just called to say her teacher has said she’s not herself, they checked her temp (all fine), she doesn’t feel sick or anything, they’ve said she’s just being quiet and clingy and not enthusiastic about participating in some of the activities. They’ve asked me to come and collect her if she’s still being “clingy” after lunch.

AIBU to not pick her up unless she’s actually poorly? I’m the first one to drive to school if my child is poorly but this doesn’t seem to be the case today. She’s naturally shy and quiet anyway so her being reserved is not out of character at all!

OP posts:
SouthLondonMum22 · 22/11/2023 19:41

Tessabelle74 · 22/11/2023 19:40

From the very first OP

DD2 is 4 and in reception. She’s had the usual on off cough / colds since starting in September and is just coming to the end of a bad cold, she went to school throughout with me just giving her calpol in the mornings.

Are you all struggling with reading comprehension?

Have you read more than just the OP?

LuvSmallDogs · 22/11/2023 19:42

Tessabelle74 · 22/11/2023 19:31

From the OP

"DD2 is 4 and in reception. She’s had the usual on off cough / colds since starting in September and is just coming to the end of a bad cold, she went to school throughout with me just giving her calpol in the mornings."

So yes, she DID mention Calpol and my opinion stands. Sending poorly kids that need Calpol to get through the day to school is shit parenting. I've got 4 and I work and I say this with confidence, my kids are home when they're I'll because that's where they need to be

OP corrected it to calcough which is a different medicine. GP suggested taking it, and ime GPs always tell you whether or not a child can go to school.

Tessabelle74 · 22/11/2023 19:43

SouthLondonMum22 · 22/11/2023 19:41

Have you read more than just the OP?

I don't need to, the OP clearly states she sent the child in needing Calpol, which is what I commented about, again, are you struggling with comprehension?

Florrieboo · 22/11/2023 19:44

I work in a school with young kids, you get to know when a child is "off" some kids never get a fever - one of mine never did even at his sickest. Sometimes a child needs a bit of TLC and that will get them through. A duvet day can fix a lot.
As for the previous discussion of teachers leaving when their own child is sick, this happens all the time. A call from daycare or nursery or a different school and that teacher goes and gets their child and we work out cover internally. Unless you actually work in a school you would have no idea this happens.

SouthLondonMum22 · 22/11/2023 19:46

Tessabelle74 · 22/11/2023 19:43

I don't need to, the OP clearly states she sent the child in needing Calpol, which is what I commented about, again, are you struggling with comprehension?

OP clarified that it was calcough as recommended by the GP to take before school.

My reading comprehension is just fine. I also manage to read more than the OP.

Tessabelle74 · 22/11/2023 19:46

LuvSmallDogs · 22/11/2023 19:42

OP corrected it to calcough which is a different medicine. GP suggested taking it, and ime GPs always tell you whether or not a child can go to school.

No she didn't, read it again. At her worst she was dosing her with Calpol, on the day she was called by the school she'd had calcough on GP's advice. At no point has she changed that she was giving Calpol before

Tessabelle74 · 22/11/2023 19:48

SouthLondonMum22 · 22/11/2023 19:46

OP clarified that it was calcough as recommended by the GP to take before school.

My reading comprehension is just fine. I also manage to read more than the OP.

And during the WORST OF IT she was giving Calpol and sending her in. The day the school called she'd had calcough. I did read it all, clearly you don't comprehend it at all

Notgoodatpoetrybutgreatatlit · 22/11/2023 19:53

Hi OP, I think you sound lovely. Much much nicer than my own mother!
I liked what you said about working to pay the bills and have a nice Xmas. I have a great mental image of you and your dds having a fun relaxed Xmas!
And I work in a school , your attitude is great. At some point children need to be taught by parents that sometimes they will not be 100% and you just soldier on. So thanks for that as well!

Calliopespa · 22/11/2023 19:56

Yeah I’d go now. She’s been having Calpol daily which isn’t really what a child in school should be needing.

Grammarnut · 22/11/2023 20:03

amylou8 · 20/11/2023 11:49

I wouldn't pick her up unless she was unwell, being a bit clingy isn't being ill, and sets a bit of a percedent about how to get a duvet day. Having said that if school say pick her up you'll be hard pressed to say no!

Sometimes children need a duvet day. What's wrong with spending your time with your child?

Carpediemmakeitcount · 22/11/2023 20:10

Rachand23 · 22/11/2023 18:10

Perhaps you would prefer social services to pick her up! For goodness sake she’s YOUR dd take the responsibility.

Social services wouldn't even bat an eye lid they have real.abuse cases to deal with.

voxnihili · 22/11/2023 20:11

@marshyrun glad your DD is ok. My DD (5) has coughs that go one for ages. Reception last year was terrible. In the end, the GP prescribed a blue inhaler - I thought I was being fobbed off but it’s been a game changer.

Carpediemmakeitcount · 22/11/2023 20:11

Calliopespa · 22/11/2023 19:56

Yeah I’d go now. She’s been having Calpol daily which isn’t really what a child in school should be needing.

Cough syrup not proper Calpol FFS read.

Carpediemmakeitcount · 22/11/2023 20:14

Tessabelle74 · 22/11/2023 19:48

And during the WORST OF IT she was giving Calpol and sending her in. The day the school called she'd had calcough. I did read it all, clearly you don't comprehend it at all

The GP advised Calcough read again she didn't decide that morning.

voxnihili · 22/11/2023 20:16

I give my DD calpol before school if she has a cold. She doesn’t ‘need’ it but it helps her to feel a bit more comfortable, much like when I take paracetamol for a cold before work. If I kept her off school every time she had a bit of a cold I wouldn’t have a job left.

Carpediemmakeitcount · 22/11/2023 20:17

@Tessabelle74 I will help you I copied and paste a part of the ops post below.

"The cold started just before half term so she had a week at home with me (I was off) to chill and get over it, after a week - before she went back to school (was still coughing) I took her to the doctors. They said let it run its course and just get calcough to ease the tickly throat. She had no temperature. I’ve not been dosing her up like PPs have said. The calcough is just to ease the throat."

Kissmystarfish · 22/11/2023 20:23

marshyrun · 20/11/2023 13:07

Only just seen all the replies. I did go to collect her. I was in work yes, I work 45 mins away, we’re currently at home. Shes now asking if we can play outside in the garden!

With regards to the cold / coughs, I understand we all feel rough (me included) but when do we draw the line at how much time off school? 2-3 weeks off each time until the cold has gone? She would never be at school if that was the case. She gets rid of one cold then the week after she catches another.

Im not worried about attendance, I’ve taken numerous days off this year (for my 4 year old and 8 year old) and that’s fine but we’ve been doing normal activities outside of school - swimming lessons, days out.. She’s ok! Sleeping fine, eating fine, drinking lots, not lethargic. I think it’s a unfair to say I don’t care about her! I took her to the doctors after having the cough a while (thinking maybe chest infection), they said it’ll go on it’s own and to let it run it’s course to build immunity. They mentioned the calcough to ease her cough whilst at school, that’s why I bought it.

The school actually sent a newsletter out at the end of September to say that to avoid lots of children / staff being off with common colds the only way to prevent is ventilation (having windows open) and children can dress in extra layers for class.

Anyway, thanks for all the replies 😊 We’re enjoying a mummy / daughter afternoon until we have to go back to school to pick up her sister.

You shouldn’t give cough medicine to children. Not often are they actually sold for that purpose either. See you need to cough, medically you should never really surpass a cough because of the way the lungs work. If you’re giving cal cough lots I would stop for a while

off track but it’s true.

Carpediemmakeitcount · 22/11/2023 20:27

Toohardtofindaproperusername · 22/11/2023 18:19

Yabu. She is poorly.. she needs her mum. The teachers aren't calling you for a bit of fun.
What's the problem with picking her up?,have you got something more important to attend to ?

She hasn't got a man in her life who can bring back the bacon hime and give the op time to run around the children. What would you say if she lost her job and had to go on benefits.

Kissmystarfish · 22/11/2023 20:28

GettinChillyHereFFS · 20/11/2023 13:16

Or my sister is now dead because she was immunocompromised after multi operations, some selfish SELFISH fucker sent their kid to school while obviously ill. My niece picked it up and took it home, my sister got sick, caught sepsis and has now died leaving her child motherless and me sisterless.

DON'T BE SO FUCKING SELFISH, COLLECT YOUR CHILD AND DON'T SEND THEM TO SCHOOL WHEN THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY ILL. Yeah it can't be hleped if no one knows they are sick but once you know, keep it to your fucking selves.

Sending huge love. I have an illness very similar in that child bugs can kill me and they’ve killed many of us (really rare disease and im only one of about 100 in the world) so I understand why people don’t get it when I say, but it goes for anyone who is having cancer treatment or whatever really.

I don’t blame the parents. I blame the companies who don’t have sickness policies and so parents feel forever to send their kids in. Or the government who’ve started this whole 100% attendance so that’s another reason sick kids go in

i really do fully understand why you feel this way. I’ve lost many friends from the exact same thing.

Carpediemmakeitcount · 22/11/2023 20:33

Tessabelle74 · 22/11/2023 19:12

If your child needs Calpol they're too poorly for school! Shit parents like you are why bugs rip through schools and the fact you don't even consider anyone that could be really ill is a shocking reflection on you!

Parents are threatened daily by schools to improve attendance or else. It's not the parents fault everything was fine until we had the Tories in power and everything turned to shit.

CantFindMyMarbles · 22/11/2023 20:48

Yes, you’re being unreasonable. It’s a school - they’re not there to provide childcare for you.
your child is ill….pick her up!

User3456 · 22/11/2023 20:48

What we really need is for less infections to be circulating in schools and for government to stop this pressure on attendance when kids are ill with something infectious as it just makes everyone else sick too, with all the stress of having a sick child, juggling work and other commitments too.

So pleased you picked her up and I really hope she feels better soon. So many things doing the rounds at the moment - covid, flu, strep, HmPV, RSV etc and some can be pretty nasty for younger kids :-(

It's good the school are recognising that good ventilation will help reduce circulation of infections, filtration would help too (studies show 20-80% reduction in circulating viruses from good ventilation/filtration). Maybe they would be open to crowdfunding or fundraising for filters if there's a lot of bugs been doing the rounds? Think a classroom sized filter is around £300, for a class of 30 that would only be a tenner per child. Filters can be expensive but also corsi-rosenthal boxes can be made which is more cost effective, and it's a good project for older kids too. I know not all parents can afford to donate, we're not rich but I would certainly be happy to make a reasonably sized donation to school (offsetting those parents who can't afford to contribute) if they were doing that and I can't be the only parent who would feel that way.

https://neu.org.uk/latest/library/make-your-own-classroom-air-filter-corsi-rosenthal-box

The other thing we need generally in society is a change in approach to considering it to be polite to wear a mask if you have a respiratory infection, and for people to wear them in health settings generally (unless exempt) as both people who are infectious and people who are vulnerable both go there. I know young kids can't do this but most adults and many older kids can, it should be encouraged, we could dramatically reduce the amount of viruses doing the rounds if we did this.

Energydrink · 22/11/2023 20:58

Are you being serious???

pick up your bloody child!

ChickenBhunaandChips · 22/11/2023 21:02

FFS Read the bloody thread!!!

She picked her kid up two days ago!!!!

Coffeeandcatsforlife · 22/11/2023 21:03

School have done this with me quite a few times and my son is year 6 though it’s not happened in year 6 so far, but he’s just feeling unwell…get him home he’s absolutely fine, just doesn’t like school 🙄