Rwanda plan

[AdamRyan]

Was just reading Suella Bravermans thoughts on how to make the Rwanda plan work, which involve sending staff there to review claims and pulling out of all human rights and refugee conventions.

The plan has cost £140m to Rwanda so far, plus £££££ in legal fees and so far we've sent no-one and found out its illegal. I'm very baffled as to why the government are pursuing it, I keep hearing that "most people" support it. So I thought I'd ask:

IABU: It's a priority as it will deter immigration and the government should spend whatever money and time it takes to deliver this

IANBU: The government should focus time/money on other priorities instead.

Yep

I ignore most now as used to it and takes up too much time plus highly irritating of course

But eventually pp will either have to look at what’s happening or completely close off and make sure they only read an increasingly narrow range of views

They may just rely on these mn threads but the rest of the world won’t give a crap about that, it’ll progress regardless

"I ignore most now as used to it and takes up too much time plus highly irritating of course"
Give over, 20 or so posts on this thread today and you don't have time to explain what you meant by values? Rubbish.

Taking back control of our borders, cutting immigration to the low tens of thousands...

No
What you are seeing is you being challenged for making a sweeping derogatory statement - Asylum seekers are massively over represented in sexual crime statistics.
Being asked for your evidence is not "nitpicking".
Raising the fact that your single source of information is biased is not "nitpicking".

If you make xenophobic, scaremongering statements like that I'm going to challenge them. Words have meaning, and in the case of highly charged debates sloppy language can be dangerous. If you make generalisations you have to be prepared to defend them.

Meanwhile Wilders wants to visit Putin in 2024 and stop arms/aid to Ukraine. I'd suggest we be careful what we wish for.

www.koha.net/en/boat/400128/Wilders-praises-Putin-and-warns-of-a-visit-to-Russia/

Tough

No I don’t

@CaramacFiend don't wander onto the Middle East boards then you will have kittens.

"I ignore most now as used to it and takes up too much time plus highly irritating of course"
Aye, pesky other posters asking you to explain the barely comprehensible stuff you post eh?

@CaramacFiend you sum it up well.

Have you still not understood @Fieldofbrokenpromises

Migration increase and climate pressures will result in a political shift

Sending people to Rwanda will not solve that.

But every time I provide statistics that show that asylum seekers are massively over represented in sexual crime statistics (e.g. 30% of gang rapes in some countries) you jump back to Rwanda.

Remove the word white - All women are only good for one thing — for men like me to fuck and use like trash.”

Are you telling me that this a very rare attitude among men?
Maybe you need to go and read up on studies about men's attitudes to women, how many use prostitutes etc. "Men who hate women" by Laura Bates is quite informative.

This is a problem with patriarchy, not particular cultures. You seem quite familiar with incels so you obviously are aware plenty of white men have these attitudes.

We aren't going to reduce immigration by sending 0.001% of immigrants to Rwanda.

And we aren't going to reduce sexual abuse by focusing on particular ethnicities whilst allowing widespread misogyny and patriarchal attitudes to flourish in the way we detect and prosecute sex crimes.

The Rwanda Plan is the topic of this thread

And your statistics all come from 1 book.

You haven't provided "statistics".
You have provided one source, not research based, not peer reviewed and about a country not the UK. You got this study and the interpretation from a book written by an author known to be anti-islam.

Plenty of people have explained why you can't extrapolate from one data source in any meaningful way. But you aren't engaging in that. You don't want to debate- you just want to say that immigrants, specifically Muslims, are dangerous.

Now obviously I'm not going to change your mind on it, but I'm not letting this go unchallenged because in my opinion it's racist and dangerous and I want people to be able to see both sides of the argument so they can see why your rhetoric is nonsense.

Aye, pesky other posters asking you to explain the barely comprehensible stuff you post eh?

Which comes under my 'nitpicking about language' point. 😂

Oddly, I understood all the posts in question just fine. Strange that.

What did you understand from “Buckle up buttercup”?
and what did you think the poster meant about values of the broadcaster?

So you only read one line?

Bloody hell try not to let something throw you that much

And within the wider thread are....subtopics. Discussing the over representation of sex crimes in asylum seekers is not the same as debating whether they should be sent to Rwanda. Not too hard a point to grasp I'd have thought (although it may explain your difficulty in understanding the other perfectly clear posts in this thread lol).

And the statistics in the book are from many sources. That's what tends to happen when an author collates data. 😉

I thought you were ignoring me?

Well it’s a bit hard when you’re so fixated 😂

Perhaps you could try a little bit harder? You are apparently the one being “thrown” whatever that’s supposed to mean.
Why not just ignore me and carry on posting stuff that makes no sense?

My difficulty in understanding? Aren't you the nice one

So maybe you can tell me what values EasternStandard means

I wouldn’t bother @CaramacFiend

Stick to your topic 🙌

If you stop referencing my posts entirely - gladly 😀

Will happily side swipe all your posts if you focus on other posters.

Lol!

Didn't you just literally just called someone "lacking..." ?