Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

DS keeps being moved at school

261 replies

Cupsoftea2 · 15/11/2023 09:27

Ds has recently gone into year 2 and has had a brand new teacher. He previously had the same teacher from nursery to year 1 and he was doing so well in school. He was getting star pupil every week loved his teacher and he was progressing so well.

New teacher keeps moving him pretty much everyday and the reasons he is giving us seem petty unless he is lying but I have no reason not to believe him. She hasn’t contacted us to tell us he’s been messing around or everything and we see her everyday.

We paid £100 for him to go on a school trip and when we picked him up he looked so sad my heart broke for him. He eventually told us that she told him he was being rude for kicking a paper towel and made him sit at the front of the coach away from his friends.

He went into school this morning and she said hi “DS” and he just walked past her. We also seen her on bonfire night and he didn’t even want to say hi then either. I have never seen him like this before ever.

Something in my gut isn’t sitting right! Surely if he was misbehaving so badly we would have some kind of contact? He is a good kid never had any issues with him ever.

OP posts:
Myfabby · 15/11/2023 11:15

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

You can just flounce off without announcing your departure! Drama queen.🙄

OP, yes speak to teacher, something has unsettled your son and it's best to be open minded to make sure this doesn't escalate.

Your son should have responded to teacher's greeting. It's poor manners not to. Don't set a precedent for him , that he will be allowed to choose when he can behave. It will be difficult for him to navigate the world based on 'feelings'.

Good luck. I'm sure it will be resolved with a conversation,. Be open minded and ready to cooperate with teacher.

Dramatic · 15/11/2023 11:21

MNCrazies · 15/11/2023 10:41

I bloody well hope she didn’t, what kind of message is that setting?!

That an adult outranks him because what, they’re older?
Doesn’t work that way, perhaps you need to grow up and join us in the real world. Respect is earned, relationships are built and he does not owe anyone anything by default.

This fucking website, I swear…

To be fair I'd even tell my child it's rude to ignore another child too, doesn't matter if it's an adult or a child it's basic manners.

UndertheCedartree · 15/11/2023 11:29

cardibach · 15/11/2023 11:11

There’s a big difference between ‘always be polite’ and basic manners in greeting someone. I’m a bit concerned you don’t seem to know what it is.

Edited

I'm very concerned you don't seem to understand that that moment wasn't the one to be 'teaching' manners. Manners are mainly learned through imitation not by 'hauling' DC around and lecturing them.

Elastica23 · 15/11/2023 11:31

You can ask the school to make reasonable adjustments for him, one of which could be certainty about where he will sit every day, if that is bothering him.

Behaviour is a communication, and his acting out when he doesn't normally needs to be explored further. I would at first speak to the teacher and see how you find her.

SwingTheMonkey · 15/11/2023 11:32

Op why are you ignoring the questions pp have asked you about your last post on this exact issue?

How come you were aware of your son’s silly behaviour when you posted a couple of weeks ago but now he’s an angel who never misbehaves?!

Surely you’ve had time between this post and the last to contact the teacher and actually ask her what the issue is with your son in the classroom?

Elastica23 · 15/11/2023 11:35

What absolute nonsense about Star of the Week being only for badly behaved pupils. DDs used to get it for completing work particularly well and they were never badly behaved.

amylou8 · 15/11/2023 11:41

It's sounds as though the expectations at home maybe quite different to at school. Your happy for him not to be forced to do things. School won't be quite so accommodating. The teacher won't have contacted you over low level disruption, I suspect she'd spend her whole evening on the phone reporting every misdemeanour of 30 6 year olds. Probably a good idea to have a chat to her.

itsmyp4rty · 15/11/2023 11:43

Yr 2 is very different from a Reception/Yr 1 class. The playing ends and it's much more about sitting at your desk and working IME. Expectations are higher and your son might be struggling with all this. I've found that it's really not unusual for children to enjoy Yr 2 much less than the previous years.

It sounds like the teacher is also much stricter and that can be a big change if your son is used to a very warm, gentle teacher. Definitely speak to the teacher and say you're a bit worried that he's not enjoying school at the moment - I expect she'll put it down to the transition to 'top infants'. I would also encourage your son to make sur he is behaving really well at all times to avoid being split up from his friends again. I'd also encourage him to say good morning to his teacher - it doesn't have to mean he thinks she's wonderful.

Tonia16 · 15/11/2023 11:44

UndertheCedartree · 15/11/2023 10:46

This absolutely. Telling DC that they should ignore their feelings and always be polite to adults is a breeding ground for a child being vulnerable to abuse.

A teacher saying good morning to a pupil hardly ranks as 'an adult being abusive or a bully.'
Teaching children basic good manners is certainly not laying the foundations for future abuse.
Another example of posters taking hold of a narrative and deducing the most exaggerated conclusion.

Luxell934 · 15/11/2023 11:50

Elastica23 · 15/11/2023 11:35

What absolute nonsense about Star of the Week being only for badly behaved pupils. DDs used to get it for completing work particularly well and they were never badly behaved.

Not saying EVERY child who gets one is misbehaving. But it’s normally a behaviour tool. I’ve worked in schools for 10 years, a child who gets star of the week “every week” like OP said is not getting it because they’ve done good work or are well behaved.

Of course if your child received it a couple of times over the course of the year then it’s plausible they have actually done good work.

NightAndShiningArmour · 15/11/2023 11:50

One of our DS is a “poor me”. According to him, he’s a misunderstood borderline saint who is unfairly targeted. And at home, actually, he is really sweet, great company, a helpful and kind soul. But we are under ZERO illusions that at school he’s not a dickhead. He gets sucked into it with his friends and takes silliness too far. We know this from his teachers.

He wouldn’t be so rude as to blank people though.

TooBusyGazingAtStarss · 15/11/2023 11:57

grapesandplums · 15/11/2023 09:59

I don't think you should force your child to be polite if previously they were and it is only directed at one person. I think you're right in asking yourself, if a previously polite and happy child is now stressed and anxious, why is that? Keep asking those questions OP, you'll never regret trying to understand your child before you go ahead and force or punish them. I think those that do & are reprimanding you here for trying to understand will regret this in later life when their children reflect on their childhoods.
There are such things as bad teachers, bad adults, bad colleagues etc.

Totally agree with this

bruffin · 15/11/2023 12:31

Cupsoftea2 · 15/11/2023 10:23

When he was getting star of week it was for his maths and reading not for behaviour.

It could be that other children have caught him up and surpassed him. I know my DS made huge strides in year 2 with his reading and caught up the children who were reading fluently in reception

PollyPut · 15/11/2023 13:59

£100 for a school trip? For one day? where did they go?

It must have been a long journey - no wonder she wanted to keep an eye on him on the coach if he'd been misbehaving

SwingTheMonkey · 15/11/2023 15:22

@PollyPut It was an overnight residential. Op posted about this exact situation a couple of weeks ago but apparently hasn’t managed to speak to the teacher in the interim.

StarlightLime · 15/11/2023 15:28

brokenhearted2 · 15/11/2023 09:54

Maybe. But then again if an adult were being a bully or abusive you wouldn't surely tell your child to 'be nice'. That's how kids, esp girls end up abused. Invalidating their experience and demanding that they are nice to the perpetrators is very very unhealthy

Whataboutery nonsense. It's his teacher, not an abuser.

StarlightLime · 15/11/2023 15:32

MNCrazies · 15/11/2023 10:41

I bloody well hope she didn’t, what kind of message is that setting?!

That an adult outranks him because what, they’re older?
Doesn’t work that way, perhaps you need to grow up and join us in the real world. Respect is earned, relationships are built and he does not owe anyone anything by default.

This fucking website, I swear…

I'll bet your kids are a delight. Much like their Mum, in fact.

iloveherons · 15/11/2023 15:32

no pupil is ever chosen as a star pupil every week. the reward is always rotated around so that every kid gets a turn. 🤔

Cupsoftea2 · 15/11/2023 15:43

Spoke to the teacher she said no issues he just likes a little chat with his friends now and again. She gives him a warning first but if he carrries on chatting she moves him.

She did declare she only moved him once then me and DH listed all the other days he told us and she said yeah that’s true. If we didn’t bring up the other days though she wouldn’t have mentioned it.

OP posts:
sendismylife · 15/11/2023 15:48

As I said, moving a child is neither a punishment nor a big deal. She probably didn’t recall under pressure until you mentioned it. it’s not surprising when she has someone demanding to know why she is doing her job properly as if she is in the wrong!

if he chooses to ignore a warning, his choice. It’s not as though he didn’t know what would happen after the first couple of times. He just decided that chatting was more important than being moved.

Luxell934 · 15/11/2023 15:53

What an awful teacher wanting your son to actually learn and reach his full potential rather than have a nice chat with his friends! This cold woman needs to be sacked immediately!

You do know the teacher decides where the children sit in her classroom and she is responsible for classroom management. Maybe you should become a teacher if you think you could do a better job, we are crying out for teachers!!

Malbecfan · 15/11/2023 16:11

FFS, should a y2 teacher have to remember every bloody time she moved a disruptive chatty kid? Does she not have more important things to remember, like how to get these kids to the ridiculous standards that St Michael of Gove decreed? Your DS is disrupting the learning of other kids, however many times he has been Star of the Week. The teacher is warning him, but he is making poor choices and needs to learn the consequences of those choices. You could reinforce this at home, but I'm not convinced that will happen, sadly.

You should be encouraging your DS to say good morning to his teacher, especially if she greets him by name. It's rude not to. He's going to have to learn to deal with people he doesn't particularly like, so better to start now. And in the nicest possible way, does it matter if you don't have a "warm feeling" about the teacher? You'd probably hate me because I am very strict and have high standards of behaviour. But every lesson in my secondary school has moments of laughter and in almost every lesson, kids thank me unprompted at the end of the lesson. I also get good results and feedback but I spend time establishing routines and boundaries with each new class so everyone knows what to expect. Parents who attempt to undermine me get very short shrift.

UndertheCedartree · 15/11/2023 16:17

Elastica23 · 15/11/2023 11:35

What absolute nonsense about Star of the Week being only for badly behaved pupils. DDs used to get it for completing work particularly well and they were never badly behaved.

Apparently 'star of the week' meant the little boy was badly behaved last year, he's not been the 'star' this term...which means he's badly behaved! Which is it?

UndertheCedartree · 15/11/2023 16:20

Tonia16 · 15/11/2023 11:44

A teacher saying good morning to a pupil hardly ranks as 'an adult being abusive or a bully.'
Teaching children basic good manners is certainly not laying the foundations for future abuse.
Another example of posters taking hold of a narrative and deducing the most exaggerated conclusion.

It's clear you've not understood my post. I said nothing about the teacher being a bully or abusive. I think your conclusion could definitely be called exaggerated! 🙄

UndertheCedartree · 15/11/2023 16:23

That's good you've spoken to the teacher and know what is happening in the classroom so you can support your DS with it. Did you mention to the teacher how unhappy he has been?