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Doing a Sarah’s law on my child’s dad he doesn’t know

195 replies

FirstTimeMum0 · 13/11/2023 23:45

hi after being a single mother for 6 months out of the blue my child’s farther messages me. He has since barely messaged me after meeting his child a few times. However his sister has offered to have my child overnight. I never have any help no close family near me so it’s very rare I get a brake. Do I tell her I’ve done a Sarah’s law on her brother? I don’t even know if to let any of his family see my child. Obviously I won’t be able to share what I find out from it on here or with anyone. It’s just a lot to take on

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Whydoifeelsobadallthetime · 14/11/2023 13:10

Erm, Sarah's law is for looking up previous sexual abuse offences. If you aren't concerned about sexual abuse, why did you apply?

Did you mean Claires law? That's for domestic violence.

Gardeningtime · 14/11/2023 13:12

FirstTimeMum0 · 14/11/2023 13:08

I understand that just with her having children herself my mind automatically thought she must be safe. This thread has given me a big wake up all and I think what I’m going to do next is contact her via social media and see if she would like to arrange a day out with me my child and her children ect.

Why via social media, do you not even have a relationship with her where you contact via phone???

LaLaLouella · 14/11/2023 13:13

@FirstTimeMum0 it must be hard feeling so alone with a baby, I can understand you wanting to find some family for yourself and your child.

If you do want to get a relationship with your baby's aunt then I would take it slowly - day visits, play sessions with you all. You can then decide when your baby is older and the relationship is established with the aunt if it's safe and appropriate to leave her in her care for short periods of time.

FirstTimeMum0 · 14/11/2023 13:13

Does it matter how I contact her? At least on social media I check if a message has been viewed.

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FirstTimeMum0 · 14/11/2023 13:14

Thank you this is what I’m going to do.

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Gardeningtime · 14/11/2023 13:14

FirstTimeMum0 · 14/11/2023 13:13

Does it matter how I contact her? At least on social media I check if a message has been viewed.

Yes it does, because it indicates you’ve absolutely no real life relationship with this woman,

FirstTimeMum0 · 14/11/2023 13:15

Is that what you taken from someone sending a message via social media 😂😂

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JesusAndMaryPain · 14/11/2023 13:17

Bottom line is your baby doesn't know this person and neither do you. Blood connections mean nothing. Don't leave your baby unattended with a stranger.

Kiki880 · 14/11/2023 13:21

FirstTimeMum0 · 14/11/2023 13:08

I understand that just with her having children herself my mind automatically thought she must be safe. This thread has given me a big wake up all and I think what I’m going to do next is contact her via social media and see if she would like to arrange a day out with me my child and her children ect.

Op, kindly don’t make assumptions about people just because they’re mothers. The news on any given day and some high-profile historical cases will tell you that we cannot assume someone can be trusted with kids just because they are already a mother themselves. It’s depressing indeed but sadly true.

whynotwhatknot · 14/11/2023 13:21

sarahs law is sexual abuse they wont disclose anything else even if he has been charged with other offences

dnt let the baby go anywhee overnight

Starlightstarbright2 · 14/11/2023 13:22

To summarise .. you don’t know this woman very well .

The dad you have such concerns about you looked at Clare’s law about him .

I bought up my Ds with no family support ..

having family involvement and letting child have family and staying up supervised are separate .

PrinnyPree · 14/11/2023 13:22

FirstTimeMum0 · 14/11/2023 13:08

I understand that just with her having children herself my mind automatically thought she must be safe. This thread has given me a big wake up all and I think what I’m going to do next is contact her via social media and see if she would like to arrange a day out with me my child and her children ect.

That sounds like a better first step OP, and just because someone has a child doesn't mean they actually keep them safe or even know about the "wrong'uns" in their lives. If every mother was capable of keeping their kids safe we would never hear of child abuse cases in the news.

Well done for taking the advice on board and refusing to let these people take your child unsupervised.

Zonder · 14/11/2023 13:24

I appreciate you can't share what you found, but did you find something that would make you worry for the safety of your child?

And if your child goes to this woman's house is he likely to also visit?

FirstTimeMum0 · 14/11/2023 13:24

Thank you like I said this thread has definitely been a huge wake up call. It’s horrible to imagine someone doing something so terrible as it’s never something I could do myself, but it does happen and all advice good and bad has been taken on board

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Gardeningtime · 14/11/2023 13:25

FirstTimeMum0 · 14/11/2023 13:15

Is that what you taken from someone sending a message via social media 😂😂

Are you quite ok? Yes when someone says they’ve only met someone a few times and contacts them via social media, it clearly indicates no real relationship. You clearly know you’ve no real relationship, so why pretend?

FirstTimeMum0 · 14/11/2023 13:26

like I said I won’t be doing the overnight stay till my next step is to meet up with her when I am also there with my child and she could bring her children as well. She seems sensible not to let him in if I asked her not to and he tried, but like I’ve said an overnight stay won’t be happening anytime soon this has open my eyes

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FirstTimeMum0 · 14/11/2023 13:27

I know couples that have been together years that prefer to talk of social media. It is literally personal preference

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pinky0 · 14/11/2023 13:27

FirstTimeMum0 · 14/11/2023 13:08

I understand that just with her having children herself my mind automatically thought she must be safe. This thread has given me a big wake up all and I think what I’m going to do next is contact her via social media and see if she would like to arrange a day out with me my child and her children ect.

If you aren't comfortable with the baby being around him, I wouldn't reach out to his family. I know you want your baby to have a family, but the most important thing is to protect them, you can't trust that she won't let her brother see the baby. I wouldn't contact her and let the relationship fade, and concentrate on building up a network of friends instead.

WowOK · 14/11/2023 13:32

FirstTimeMum0 · 14/11/2023 13:26

like I said I won’t be doing the overnight stay till my next step is to meet up with her when I am also there with my child and she could bring her children as well. She seems sensible not to let him in if I asked her not to and he tried, but like I’ve said an overnight stay won’t be happening anytime soon this has open my eyes

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He loyalty is with her brother. If he isn't allowed contact I'd be very cautious about letting her have unsupervised visits. Your child cam have family without having overnights or unsupervised contact.

321user123 · 14/11/2023 13:39

FirstTimeMum0 · 14/11/2023 13:26

like I said I won’t be doing the overnight stay till my next step is to meet up with her when I am also there with my child and she could bring her children as well. She seems sensible not to let him in if I asked her not to and he tried, but like I’ve said an overnight stay won’t be happening anytime soon this has open my eyes

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The fact that you’re still considering it, even if not right now, it means you have not, in fact, got a wake up call.

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Cheeseandquackers21 · 14/11/2023 13:41

Yes this. Even my sister or brothers child I would see them all together.

FirstTimeMum0 · 14/11/2023 13:42

Yes that’s what we’re going to do.

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Petallove · 14/11/2023 13:43

Personally I would be suspicious. I would expect she is trying to let her brother have access without telling you. I wouldn’t let them in. If you have issues with your babies dad it’s a big red flag.

Mariluisa · 14/11/2023 13:44

FirstTimeMum0 · 14/11/2023 13:08

I understand that just with her having children herself my mind automatically thought she must be safe. This thread has given me a big wake up all and I think what I’m going to do next is contact her via social media and see if she would like to arrange a day out with me my child and her children ect.

@FirstTimeMum0 I think that’s an excellent idea! You and her and DC all meeting up. Anything else at this point leaves you and/or your baby too vulnerable

It’s so good you’ve taken a step back to think about this and haven’t let the need for a break make the decision for you. And my goodness I can relate to that need for even just a couple of hours. Not even to be away from my baby, just to share the load.

If she’s a decent person, spending some time out with her and her DC will be a break of sorts if that makes sense. And if she’s decent she won’t push for unsupervised contact instead.

Good luck!

Wheresthebeach · 14/11/2023 13:44

She could easily let her brother have access and you wouldn't know.
You are risking everything, most importantly your child's well being.
Don't allow any contact.