to expect dd to tolerate her brothers playing while she's trying to sleep?

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My 10 year old likes to sleep late, but her brothers wake up early and play in the mornings. They make noise when they play. I think it's a good thing because they're spending time together and not on screens. But dd keeps getting upset that they wake her up. Then she comes out of her room and it starts a fight and dh gets upset because that wakes him up and he also likes to sleep late.

My daughter regularly sleeps in on a weekend, sometimes as late as… shock horror….11am

Shes 9, —and is not a bartender— and has always been the same. Me and my other DC just try to be considerate of her and try to stay quiet. I wouldn’t let them make lots of noise or start jobs

Find it a bit mad the amount of people that think a child sleeping in is a bad thing and wake them up.

I agree. On mumsnet everyone seems to get up early and you have an issue if you dare sleep in.

There was a thread a couple of years back from a woman being woken at 7am every morning by her neighbour shouting loudly for her cat (which had disappeared several weeks earlier). Amongst the general mawkish “Have some compassion!” comments were several asking what on earth she was still doing in bed at 7am. “Don’t you work?” It was ridiculous.

Im just really enjoying all of the ‘10am!!!! You’ve lost half a day!!’ Are you people ok? Does the sun set at 2pm in the winter where you live? The sun rises at 7.30/8am sometimes, after years of early shifts I know this for certain so you’re saying it sets at 2/2.30pm, complete dark by 2pm which yes ok in certain parts of the world or maybe the Scottish islands occasionally don’t see daylight in the winter, but for most places please just no. Sun sets 4.30pm in the winter in the south.

most family places don’t even open until 9am!!!!

Perfectly normal to wake up at 10am and shock horror….even later. I have always been a late riser and my mum did the whole ‘wasting the day’thing. The thing is she’s lying snoring in her chair at 4pm (even in her very early 40’s she’d be asleep before and after dinner.) Most weekends I get up after 10…or closer to 11 unless I have something that forces me up earlier. I dont feel like I’m missing out.

I was never allowed to sleep in as a kid. My mother was a MONSTER! Height of laziness she’d say. Kids need sleep. I need sleep. I’m also a night owl, as are my kids. We’re up early every day for work/school. Weekends you can do what you like and awake people should keep the noise down

Moving the toys downstairs is the very obvious solution to this problem.

DH needs to accept that he's a father of three and get over his aversion to visible toys downstairs. Or get up on a Saturday morning.

If you want to turn yourself into the parent your children do not respect, get up early on Saturdays to keep everyone quiet while Mr Important gets his beauty rest...

Have you read the OPs posts?

Oh, come on, a little later at weekends is fine - and I don't think 10am is out of the question.
Rest and relaxation are good for the body, mind and soul.

@beachcitygirl

I'll be honest. As someone whose family are European, I very much judge people in the uk who are desperate to get their kids to bed by 7 7:30
Usually for "adult/wine" time.

I like my kids. I like their company. I like lazy long family meals that last till 9/10pm or later at weekends. I like socialising with my kids and I like long lazy lie in with a good book.

I usually silently judge but given the bonkers "up with the lark" "wasted the the day" nonsense on here.

I'm with you and I am English. My adult children and extended family are similar (all English) although parents aren't keen on a late dinner now (used to be), but still socialize till quite late. Married to a (non-judgemental) lark though.

Up at 10, so dressed, breakfast, and ready to go at 11, then you may need to drive somewhere for a day out, the other children are likely to then need lunch soon after arrival. It gives you fewer options, particularly if it's lovely in the morning then rainy later. If you have the whole daylight period or opening hours available it makes it easier to work around the weather to plan your day.

If he’s up at 5am, you can’t make him sit in silence for five hours.

It seems like your family lacks structure and routine. Do you not do family stuff at weekends?

I’m lying in bed atm,
Dome of these posts are just exhausting to read.

Getting up at crack of at the weekend. Weekends are for relaxing.

Everyone saying "I'm a night owl / I like to lie in" seems to forget we're talking about a TEN year old girl! On top of that, OP says she goes to bed at 8pm.
Still convinced it's a question of screen under the blankets till whatever hour - doubt she's sleeping 14 hours a night!

Weekends are for what you want. In this house, in the winter, they are for making the most of daylight hours outside with plenty of time for relaxing when it's dark or tipping it down.

My dd is a pronounced lark. She would easily sleep until 12 as a 10 year old.

Went to bed about 9, boy could never sleep even on a school day. I used to let her catch up at the weekends. She still has this ability to bank hours of sleep.

Meant to say owl🙄

It’s this “lark privilege” thing

Not content with having the working world all their own way, they want to control our weekends and holidays too.

And don’t get me started on those who thought lockdown was a good opportunity to “start work at 7 am, to use that commute time - then we can log off at 3!” - or we could use our evening commute time to work til 7 pm and start at 11?

Not mine!

You’ve obviously never had children that like to sleep in! My children would not sleep if I put them to bed early (I tried), they are night owls. I still never go to sleep early either unless I’m ill though. You cannot always force these things. They are teens now and can sleep until lunch time at weekends if they don’t have something planned.

I would ask the boys to be a bit more considerate - maybe quietish til 9? Or like you say, move toys to different area.

I could have written this x

My mother was like this and I bloody hated it. I don’t wake the DC up early (9 is still quite early for a weekend for older kids) unless we have plans. It’s just cruel.

Sleeps until 7am amused me greatly too. On a weekend that’s the middle of the night to me! I think larks need to stop being so self righteous. I do lots of jobs later in the day when I am lost awake and I really don’t care if people perceive me as lazy for having a lie in. Trying to get to sleep before 10pm (at the earliest) is virtually impossible for me.

@MrsB74 it's cruel get a grip!

It is a waste of a day though. You can be up and out going out somewhere. Your circadian rhythm is designed to be awake in the light and asleep in the dark. You can go outside, walk, cycle, exercise, get fresh air and visit places. If you sleep in until 10 am. When are you eating meals? Getting daylight? Evenings tend to be sitting on your backside watching TV. Daytime you can do things.

It also means she's likely tired in school days as it's so far out from what she's sleeping at the weekend. We get up at the same time and go to bed at the same time every day regardless so it's much easier to get up for work/ school on a weekday.