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If you are autistic do people often not answer the question you are asking but give a more generalised answer?

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Hotandsunny · 07/11/2023 22:20

Just a thought that came to mind. I often find when I ask people questions about something very specific they don't seem to get it and just give you a general answer. I don't know what it is. But I have oftenish been in a situation where people just don't seem to understand what you are asking. So I was wondering if it was an autistic thing.

The example from today was I was doing a school appeal and the school had sent a list of rooms and room sizes as evidence that the school was full. I tried to question the school about what the different rooms were used for, about class sizes and what rooms the 6th form used. All the deputy head could do was repeat that Y7 was full.

I say you haven't answered my question and ask again and get the same reply. A member of the panel says to me I just don't like the reply I'm getting. I don't, because it doesn't answer my question.

This isn't an isolated incident by a long shot.

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Hotandsunny · 07/11/2023 22:49

RunningUpThatBuilding · 07/11/2023 22:29

I think in the school example above it is happening on purpose as they do not wish to get involved in a detailed debate and by not answering your specific questions they are attempting to shut you down with a blanket "no".

Nothing to do with autism.

But that's the point of the appeal. They present their case then they get questioned on it. I find it strange that people think that's ok. To just refuse to engage in a process like that? Are they allowed to just opt out?

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WillowCraft · 07/11/2023 22:51

MadeOfAllWork · 07/11/2023 22:37

I understand what you are asking, but when you want to get a child into year 7 it doesn’t matter how big the 6th form room is. People don’t answer questions that are irrelevant.

It’s like if you asked me if you could have a lift somewhere and said that you couldn’t because the car was full, and then you asked what colour my car is. It doesn’t matter to the problem in hand so why would I answer.

The school started it by sending a list of rooms and class sizes to justify why they were full... Your example isn't right, it should be more like saying "I can't give you a lift as my car is full because I have a load of long planks in the passenger seat" and the other person then says "is there still space in the back" and the first person just replies "I haven't got space for you" instead of directly answering the question. The reason they are evading the question is that they don't want to give you a lift!

I find it often happens when people are defensive and trying to pre empt criticism... Or sometimes they just aren't listening .

Hotandsunny · 07/11/2023 22:51

TheresaCrowd · 07/11/2023 22:31

I agree, I think they just didn't want to get into it any further with you.

So it was a tactic? They'd waste the question time allowed by avoiding answering questions so they didn't get to be scrutinized?

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tescocreditcard · 07/11/2023 22:52

They don't' have to answer your question. it's not a legal requirement.

Having said that, I don't think autism has anything to do with it. It happens A LOT. I think some people just love to hear themselves speak.

Aydahayda · 07/11/2023 22:52

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 07/11/2023 22:36

This is exactly what I'm talking about. My partner does it and it drives me berserk. If I'm feeling particularly prickly I'll lose it and give it "That isn't what I asked, now will you just answer the actual question I did effing well ask?". 😝

I usually say “I need a number” 😂

Aydahayda · 07/11/2023 22:53

Hotandsunny · 07/11/2023 22:51

So it was a tactic? They'd waste the question time allowed by avoiding answering questions so they didn't get to be scrutinized?

Yes

Woman2023 · 07/11/2023 22:54

It was probably foolish of them to make the argument based on room size. But then the 6th form wouldn't normally be used for year 7 classes. As others say, working out school timetables, suitable rooms and teachers is complex, knowing there are some free rooms available might not actually make much difference.

mimblewimble · 07/11/2023 22:54

Hi OP, I have an autistic child and this sounds quite familiar to me but from the other side. He often gets frustrated with me because I have not answered his questions.

From my perspective, he asks a lot of questions about very specific details, which I don't always have the energy or headspace to answer and which to me seem irrelevant to the situation.

When he pushes it, it feels as if he is trying to corner me or get me to slip up on some detail so he can prove a point. However, he maintains that he just likes to/needs to know information so that he understands.

NotMyCircusAnymore · 07/11/2023 22:55

This happens to everyone . It's not so autistic thing . It's that some people are very vague in their answers or don't understand what we are asking them.It is frustrating though and it pushes me to the brink of an actual meltdown sometimes and I feel aggressive and need to ask repeatedly for assurance . I am not autistic.

NotMyCircusAnymore · 07/11/2023 22:56

mimblewimble · 07/11/2023 22:54

Hi OP, I have an autistic child and this sounds quite familiar to me but from the other side. He often gets frustrated with me because I have not answered his questions.

From my perspective, he asks a lot of questions about very specific details, which I don't always have the energy or headspace to answer and which to me seem irrelevant to the situation.

When he pushes it, it feels as if he is trying to corner me or get me to slip up on some detail so he can prove a point. However, he maintains that he just likes to/needs to know information so that he understands.

Your child sounds like me even though I'm not autistic . I need a lot of reassurance and to feel in control . I've no desire to trip people up. It may be because I have OCD and come from a severe trauma background .

Hotandsunny · 07/11/2023 22:57

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 07/11/2023 22:32

Yes, they do, and I find it infuriating, which is why I've developed a reputation for being really pedantic when the reality is that I'm just very, very succinct and precise with the language I use so that my questions can not be misunderstood or misinterpreted, and I don't hesitate to interrupt and point out "that is not what I asked, now again, what about xxx specifically?".

I think it's a huge part of the reason autistic people get a reputation for being pedantic. We are not, NT people are commonly prone to being wishy-washy and imprecise.

Yes, I ask a very precise question because I want a precise answer. If I wanted the answer you are giving me I would have asked that question! I did keep asking my question and trying to explain it in different ways. But as a previous poster said people seem to imagine in their head you're asking something different and they answer that. Then they get fed up and claim they have answered you multiple times. When they have only answered their imaginary question.

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junbean · 07/11/2023 22:58

I do this and I try to catch myself when I do. I suspect I'm Asperger's and ADHD. When I'm the one asking the question I expect to be answered specifically. I just have trouble answering myself, something about processing the information and responding is difficult for me, especially if it's verbal. If it's written I can agonize and overthink my answer and how it's worded, etc.

MadeOfAllWork · 07/11/2023 23:01

Hotandsunny · 07/11/2023 22:51

So it was a tactic? They'd waste the question time allowed by avoiding answering questions so they didn't get to be scrutinized?

No. It’s because it’s not practical to change the layout of the school to allow one child to join a year group that is full. They aren’t answering the question because it isn’t relevant.

WillowCraft · 07/11/2023 23:01

A lot of people also struggle with reading comprehension (as seen from this site and even this thread, the number of people saying that room sizes are not relevant to your situation when it clearly states in the OP that this is the exact reason the school has provided for being unable to meet your request). That could explain written questions not being answered.

Eggscellent · 07/11/2023 23:02

I agree with the asking of the question and understand why you wanted the answer as it was your way in. I would also be massively frustrated by this as I it seems so black and white, I ask a question and they are not answering it at all and really just causing more confusion.

I don't think the handling of the situation was inclusive for you or for anyone who maybe neurodiverse. I have ADHD and I would become very infuriated by the this and how I was not able to represent my case because they clearly refused to answer the question in any meaningful way or without adding confusion into the situation.

It doesn't matter if they think it's an irrelevant question, they should have stated this rather than just repeating the same answer.

Hotandsunny · 07/11/2023 23:02

Bruisername · 07/11/2023 22:37

I would say in your sisters case she is starting a conversation - so you ask where you are going for dinner and she says she had a big lunch so you would then say ‘so shall we go to the ‘light food’ place and she says probably but I really fancy Indian food etc

it’s a different form of communication

on the OP - not all questions deserve an answer and no one owes you an answer so when they answer the way you suggest, they are just trying to shut things down because they don’t want to continue that conversation (not necessarily your example though - generally)

But I'm talking about situations like today. Where there is an expectation that an answer is given. Or like at formal meeting at my son's college. The point being to get my queries answered. Why do people put themselves in these situations if they don't want to answer questions?

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Bruisername · 07/11/2023 23:02

mimblewimble · 07/11/2023 22:54

Hi OP, I have an autistic child and this sounds quite familiar to me but from the other side. He often gets frustrated with me because I have not answered his questions.

From my perspective, he asks a lot of questions about very specific details, which I don't always have the energy or headspace to answer and which to me seem irrelevant to the situation.

When he pushes it, it feels as if he is trying to corner me or get me to slip up on some detail so he can prove a point. However, he maintains that he just likes to/needs to know information so that he understands.

Yes my ADHD child can be like this. It can be quite exhausting sometimes and it can feel like a lot of demands are being made of me and that I don’t get a break.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 07/11/2023 23:02

Yes, I ask a very precise question because I want a precise answer.

The thing is, people don't have to communicate on your terms. You could ask a thousand questions about room size, and they could waste a lot of time answering questions that will have no bearing on the outcome, or they can fob you off rather than get into that cycle.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 07/11/2023 23:02

Hotandsunny · 07/11/2023 22:57

Yes, I ask a very precise question because I want a precise answer. If I wanted the answer you are giving me I would have asked that question! I did keep asking my question and trying to explain it in different ways. But as a previous poster said people seem to imagine in their head you're asking something different and they answer that. Then they get fed up and claim they have answered you multiple times. When they have only answered their imaginary question.

It's why I don't tolerate it or entertain it when people start rambling in response.

The question was not an invitation to begin a broader conversation, as it didn't ask something subjective. If I want to instigate a conversation I can ask something along the lines of "what do you think about xxx?"

The question "What time is/are we?" only has one relevant answer, i.e. a time of the day, and anything else is irrelevant waffle that I'm neither interested in or willing to sit through. Just respond to the direct question with an appropriate, relevant answer. That's all I want. What is so bloody difficult?

Hotandsunny · 07/11/2023 23:03

PestilencialCrisis · 07/11/2023 22:33

My sister does this regularly! I find it infuriating! Eg. I'll ask "what time are we going out?" And she'll say "DH is getting home at 6" and I'll say that doesn't answer the question (are we going out the second her DH is getting home? Are we having a cuppa while he gets changed and ready? Is anyone else coming here first? Have you booked a table for a particular time? I don't know!!!)

Or I'll say "where shall we go for dinner?" And she'll reply "I had quite a big lunch" (That doesn't answer the question!!!!)

I have dozens of these examples and they make me loopy. I don't think it is to do with autism though, just a difference in communication styles.

This doesn't seem like the same thing I'm talking about, tbh.

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Bruisername · 07/11/2023 23:03

Hotandsunny · 07/11/2023 23:02

But I'm talking about situations like today. Where there is an expectation that an answer is given. Or like at formal meeting at my son's college. The point being to get my queries answered. Why do people put themselves in these situations if they don't want to answer questions?

You believe your question is deserving of an answer. They do not. In some cases you may be right and in other cases they may be.

cardibach · 07/11/2023 23:04

But rooming isn’t the reason you can’t have more in Y7 surely? If it’s full it’ll mean the x number of classes in the year all have the max number they want in them (say 32). You can’t add another one even if you have a room, because that would mean more staff, and they can’t afford to staff a whole new Y7 class. If they could, they would have one.

cardibach · 07/11/2023 23:06

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 07/11/2023 23:02

It's why I don't tolerate it or entertain it when people start rambling in response.

The question was not an invitation to begin a broader conversation, as it didn't ask something subjective. If I want to instigate a conversation I can ask something along the lines of "what do you think about xxx?"

The question "What time is/are we?" only has one relevant answer, i.e. a time of the day, and anything else is irrelevant waffle that I'm neither interested in or willing to sit through. Just respond to the direct question with an appropriate, relevant answer. That's all I want. What is so bloody difficult?

The person is thinking aloud and sharing their thought process with you so you can agree a time together. If you understand other things that are going on you can see the range of times possible for your activity then chime in your own limitations.

cardibach · 07/11/2023 23:08

WillowCraft · 07/11/2023 23:01

A lot of people also struggle with reading comprehension (as seen from this site and even this thread, the number of people saying that room sizes are not relevant to your situation when it clearly states in the OP that this is the exact reason the school has provided for being unable to meet your request). That could explain written questions not being answered.

No, the rooms and room sizes were to show the school is full, not the year group. They help to show that they can’t accommodate another Y7 class, for both rooming and staffing reasons (the staff being busy teaching the other years too).

EmmaEmerald · 07/11/2023 23:09

Hotandsunny · 07/11/2023 22:51

So it was a tactic? They'd waste the question time allowed by avoiding answering questions so they didn't get to be scrutinized?

Yes

And the room size thing might be their tactic to avoid other questions.

it sounds like you are expecting efficiency and logic from professionals. No experience of schools but logic and professionalism seem to be at an all time low in 2023.