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Trans/pride flag in children's stickers

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timeforacoffeebreak · 07/11/2023 10:09

This was included in a pack of squishmallow stickers... why???
AIBU or is this totally wrong ??

Trans/pride flag in children's stickers
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AmaryllisNightAndDay · 09/11/2023 14:28

So sorry it happened @Boiledbeetle and you're still going through it.

DBS checks can be very flaky, my mother says she had a DBS check and they checked my father instead and cleared her based on his data! My parents have similar initials and she could see the data was wrong. Even at their best DBS checks are only a partial filter, they do filter out some of the scum but a lot still gets through. The idea that women are safe with someone because he has been DBS checked or has a nice caring job is simply false. Some very nasty people are attracted to nice caring jobs.

SamW98 · 09/11/2023 14:33

AtrociousCircumstance · 07/11/2023 10:49

Trans activism = misogyny. It is anti woman. It seeks to erode the boundaries of children, it is anti safeguarding, it is anti consent.

The pride flag used to be a beautiful thing. Trans activism has highjacked it.

Absolutely 💯 agree

YouJustDoYou · 09/11/2023 14:44

Boiledbeetle · 09/11/2023 07:45

I was abused by a patient transport driver employed by the ambulance service over the summer whilst alone with him on my journey to hospital - the investigation is still ongoing . I'm sure he passed a dbs check, but that didn't stop what happened to me.

The NHS during their first investigation chose to believe the ambulance service guy over me and rewarded me for daring to complain with a risk marker on my file.

Only when I insisted on a second investigation and for them to do their Fucking job properly did they find the recorded phone call I made (and told them about the day of the incident) to the ambulance service during the abuse begging for help. That call also caught the driver actively abusing me.

The police attended the day of the incident, they didn't inform the hospital that they'd been called out. They did absolutely fuck all.

Up until the point where the NHS heard the phone call I was the bad guy and the ambulance service guy was happily working with other vulnerable patients.

Never never never assume anything!

Jesus Christ Boiled, that's awful, What the fuck is wrong with some men?

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 09/11/2023 16:33

I am not quite understanding why people put so much confidence in a DBS check.

I am not sure they are there to weed out the pervs anymore, not now that people can lie about their identity with impunity, change fundamental documents, claim human rights and data protection/privacy violations to deflect straightforward questions about their past activities,right to be forgotten etc. I think the DBS check has now become nothing more than a box ticking/arse covering mechanism by the institution needing the volunteers/employees; so, in the event of a vulnerable person coming to harm, they can say they did what they were supposed to do under the safeguarding rules, and have thus discharged their duty of care and are liability free.

💐@Boiledbeetle what happened to you sounds utterly horrifying. You are incredibly brave and tenacious, I hope you get justice soon.

IDontHateRainbows · 09/11/2023 22:11

I don't know, where i work we had an employee with child abuse images and the police told us straight away. Adult care.

Didimum · 09/11/2023 22:20

That’s not the trans flag. It’s the progress pride flag. The trans flag is horizontal blue, pink and white stripes.

Squishmallows have also significantly broadened their target age range due to their popularity among young adults and older.

Don’t see the issue. Brands don’t exist for your personal ethos.

KissTheRains · 10/11/2023 13:10

Sure it's been said but:

Someone:
"Kids won't be influenced by stickers"

That same someone:
"Let's put stickers in a pack for kids to influence them"

Trying to encourage kids to accept different sexualities and identities to normalize them...
Fine, unfortunately, it brings with it male Fetishists and MAPs

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 10/11/2023 13:15

@Didimum - unfortunately the trans part of that flag is the only bit that really matters. For example, it trumps the rights of lesbians to be solely female-sex-attracted - they are told to ‘get over their genital fetish’ and include penis-having, male-born ‘lesbians’ in their dating pool. They aren’t allowed to have exclusively female clubs or groups - that is exclusionary.

GreenAppleCrumble · 10/11/2023 13:17

@Didimum

That’s not the trans flag. It’s the progress pride flag. The trans flag is horizontal blue, pink and white stripes.

Like this?

Trans/pride flag in children's stickers
Helleofabore · 10/11/2023 13:55

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 10/11/2023 13:15

@Didimum - unfortunately the trans part of that flag is the only bit that really matters. For example, it trumps the rights of lesbians to be solely female-sex-attracted - they are told to ‘get over their genital fetish’ and include penis-having, male-born ‘lesbians’ in their dating pool. They aren’t allowed to have exclusively female clubs or groups - that is exclusionary.

And before any one denies that lesbians are being directly influenced by this, even two years ago I overheard a group of 14/15 year old lesbians reprimand any in the group who said they wouldn’t date a person with a dick. They were called transphobic. Teenaged girls are picking this up and groups such as stonewall are not helping when their exCEO was heavily publicised as saying that lesbians who didn’t include male trans people in their dating pool were sexual racists. And other comments.

So, this is most definitely filtering down to children.

TrainedByCats · 10/11/2023 15:50

IDontHateRainbows · 09/11/2023 06:36

You do know that the police have an obligation to notify the employers of those charged with a relevant offence when the job involves vulnerable people don't you?

I work in the care industry and we would expect to be notified by police after someone was charged even if they were not convicted until a later date.

So yes I'll assume an active ambulance worker is not a danger thank you.

Your mileage may vary.

Yes I do know there is an obligation to inform employers, that’s why I stated I assume they are suspended when they are charged.

My point is there are rapists in every profession so I don’t assume any grouping of males are a sacred caste who are no risk to women and that includes ambulance workers.

I also know statistically most rapes are not reported and when reported many are not charged due to lack of independent proof (as it is often a crime where it is one persons word against another) and even if charged many cases fail to convict. So I know there are many more rapists in the male population than there are convicted rapists.

You can reach whatever illogical conclusions as to which groups of males can automatically be judged as safe for yourself. Just don’t make them for anyone else, we’re free to disagree with you just as you are free to disagree with me.

Didimum · 10/11/2023 15:57

GreenAppleCrumble · 10/11/2023 13:17

@Didimum

That’s not the trans flag. It’s the progress pride flag. The trans flag is horizontal blue, pink and white stripes.

Like this?

The image as a whole within the cat's belly is the progress pride flag.

Didimum · 10/11/2023 16:01

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 10/11/2023 13:15

@Didimum - unfortunately the trans part of that flag is the only bit that really matters. For example, it trumps the rights of lesbians to be solely female-sex-attracted - they are told to ‘get over their genital fetish’ and include penis-having, male-born ‘lesbians’ in their dating pool. They aren’t allowed to have exclusively female clubs or groups - that is exclusionary.

This isn't relevant to my comment – I didn't say trans wasn't represented on the flag, I just pointed out that it is not the trans flag, that is it the progress pride flag. The rest of my comment was about the squishmallow brand.

KissTheRains · 10/11/2023 16:09

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Helleofabore · 10/11/2023 16:10

TrainedByCats · 10/11/2023 15:50

Yes I do know there is an obligation to inform employers, that’s why I stated I assume they are suspended when they are charged.

My point is there are rapists in every profession so I don’t assume any grouping of males are a sacred caste who are no risk to women and that includes ambulance workers.

I also know statistically most rapes are not reported and when reported many are not charged due to lack of independent proof (as it is often a crime where it is one persons word against another) and even if charged many cases fail to convict. So I know there are many more rapists in the male population than there are convicted rapists.

You can reach whatever illogical conclusions as to which groups of males can automatically be judged as safe for yourself. Just don’t make them for anyone else, we’re free to disagree with you just as you are free to disagree with me.

yes trained

Watching the contortions people go through to group some males into some kind of special safeguarding category is always interesting. You would absolutely think that society would have decreed priests, male nurses, male doctors and teachers to be groups that should bypass safeguarding using the argument that was put forward. Oh... that is right... for a while there society DID make some of those groups exceptions for safeguarding and even know in this supposed better informed era we are still getting males from these groups committing sex crimes.

Until recently, THOSE males who are not predatory and DBA checked were still considered not acceptable to enter female single sex spaces. Why? Because they are MALE people. And ALL male people were excluded over about 8 years old regardless of not once harming a woman or girl.

It really doesn't matter how people parse the overall population of male people. No exceptions should be made as history should have fucking taught us.

ZeldaFighter · 10/11/2023 17:15

Lesbian - a sexual orientation
Gay - a sexual orientation
Bisexual - a sexual orientation
Transgender - I don't know

Why do kids need to know anything about sexualities? Plenty of time to learn about that when they're older.

The sticker is not just a rainbow, the flag is the official Pride Progress Flag so it is specifically about LGBT+, which may be inappropriate early sexualisation for kids of a certain age.

OneMorePlant · 10/11/2023 21:46

Didimum · 10/11/2023 16:01

This isn't relevant to my comment – I didn't say trans wasn't represented on the flag, I just pointed out that it is not the trans flag, that is it the progress pride flag. The rest of my comment was about the squishmallow brand.

The progress flag represents queer theory. Queer theory is misogynistic, homophobic, paedophilic and racist bullshit.

It's an offence to any decent human being who knows what it actually stands for instead of the "inclusive" propaganda they have been spoon feeding you.

It has no business being anywhere near children.

Didimum · 10/11/2023 22:16

OneMorePlant · 10/11/2023 21:46

The progress flag represents queer theory. Queer theory is misogynistic, homophobic, paedophilic and racist bullshit.

It's an offence to any decent human being who knows what it actually stands for instead of the "inclusive" propaganda they have been spoon feeding you.

It has no business being anywhere near children.

Don’t buy squishmallows brand items then, I guess.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2023 22:28

She can still have an opinion about it, though. Just like you can.

Sueveneers · 11/11/2023 03:59

Mamasharp97 · 07/11/2023 13:25

your comment is ignorant because they aren’t males, trans women are women. If my little girl is ‘struggling’ with puberty I’d do whatever it takes to help her find who she is and feel confident in her skin, including gender exploration

@Mamasharp97 Your comment is the ignorant one, because transwomen are men. No one can change sex. 92% of transmen retain their penis and testicles. Therefore, they have no right being in women and girls' safe single sex spaces. They are men in a dress. They are NOT women. Lipstick on a pig doesn't mean it's no longer a pig as the saying goes.

Sueveneers · 11/11/2023 04:08

Mamasharp97 · 07/11/2023 13:45

If you genuinely want to learn and be educated on how trans women are in fact women and not men, here is a wonderful article for you to read about the genetic links in transgenderism

https://mytransgenderdate.com/blog/2020/10/the-science-behind-transgender

You are missinformed and lied to by a blog with an agenda. There is no genetic links to transgenderism. Ask any Biologist. You're buying 'junk science' that is simply not true. There is also no way a man can turn into a woman. Your sex is coded in your DNA and chromosomes. They cannot be altered. I'm sorry you've been lied to.

Sueveneers · 11/11/2023 04:49

Tandora · 07/11/2023 16:12

It’s really upsetting that you equate being trans to having a particular religious belief 😢. And just so so wrong and misunderstood.

It is a religious belief. The eminent Biologist (and atheist) Richard Dawkins has said it's a religious ideology, a 'cult'. And he's right. I trust an actual, literal, real Biologist over someone who has only just now stated they have PhD, but never said that in all the previous threads or discussion. Hmmmm. I do believe you work with trans people, but you are getting increasingly desperate so made the PhD thing up. It's especially obvious since you refuse to post one single skerrick of evidence to back up your claims. Surely you'd have at least one link bookmarked that you can give us. So why won't you? The answer, is obvious.

Lastly, taking things 'out of context'? You're the master at doing that, and reporting posts while doing so. That he actually said that, regardless of 'context' (and what possible 'context' could there be to saying you want to be treated like that?), should concern everyone. There is no possible 'context' for that statement he made, that would excuse it. None whatsoever. And you and I both know it only you're not big enough to admit it.

Sueveneers · 11/11/2023 04:53

Tandora · 07/11/2023 16:16

Would you find it offensive to compare being gay to a religious belief? If someone pointed out how that could be offensive would you ask them if they are “anti religion”?

Edited

As Richard Dawkins says, it is indeed a religious belief. It is not comparable to being gay, but I understand why you need to say it is. Gay people didn't; enforce people to call them something they're not, police language, get words re-defined, get forms changed with terms that dehumanise others, hijack the flag of another marginalised group, get people sacked for denying science etc etc etc. They are not even remotely comparable and you know it.

Sueveneers · 11/11/2023 04:56

justteanbiscuits · 07/11/2023 16:24

And many of us see it differently. It is not harmful to me as a female. Trans women are no risk to me and any other female.

Toxic makes however... But as long as everyone shouts over everything about the risk trans women are, we ignore what the real risk is.

Transwomen are men so as much a risk as all other men, in fact, statistically they commit sex offences 5 times greater than 'cis' men. Any man that puts on a dress and thinks he has a right to invade womens spaces, with no regard to how women and girls feel, IS a Toxic Male.

Sueveneers · 11/11/2023 05:06

StaunchMomma · 07/11/2023 16:58

I'll take that over paranoia and hysteria, thanks.

Yes, we're all "hysterical" women. And you can't see the misogyny @StaunchMomma (clearly not a staunchfeminist).

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