Trans/pride flag in children's stickers

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This was included in a pack of squishmallow stickers... why???
AIBU or is this totally wrong ??

It's pretty rare for children to have gender dysphoria that actually doesn't go away eventually. It seems doctors are now forgetting this.

You do know that the police have an obligation to notify the employers of those charged with a relevant offence when the job involves vulnerable people don't you?

I work in the care industry and we would expect to be notified by police after someone was charged even if they were not convicted until a later date.

So yes I'll assume an active ambulance worker is not a danger thank you.

Your mileage may vary.

Oh, they know full-well. They would just rather butcher a child than lose their jobs for being tRanSPhObiC

YABVU.

Well that's me convinced.

Quite, any kind of gender dysphoria usually recedes post puberty.

Great, I wasn't trying to convince you though.
Nil points.

I was abused by a patient transport driver employed by the ambulance service over the summer whilst alone with him on my journey to hospital - the investigation is still ongoing . I'm sure he passed a dbs check, but that didn't stop what happened to me.

The NHS during their first investigation chose to believe the ambulance service guy over me and rewarded me for daring to complain with a risk marker on my file.

Only when I insisted on a second investigation and for them to do their Fucking job properly did they find the recorded phone call I made (and told them about the day of the incident) to the ambulance service during the abuse begging for help. That call also caught the driver actively abusing me.

The police attended the day of the incident, they didn't inform the hospital that they'd been called out. They did absolutely fuck all.

Up until the point where the NHS heard the phone call I was the bad guy and the ambulance service guy was happily working with other vulnerable patients.

Never never never assume anything!

for Boiled.

And now you've made me cry 😘

The majority of women in the UK have boundaries excluding all male people.

It shows in polls everytime it is asked now.

It is quite interesting that safeguarding protocols teaches us to make no groups for special consideration. I, personally, don’t trust DBS checks knowing there are ways around it. Look at the DBS checked male with a penchant for BDSM and weapons who got a Girl Guide leadership role for a start.

I wouldn't know a trans flag if it hit me in the face, but I am aware of the rainbow as are my grandchildren. They've grown up knowing that auntie Jane ( not her real name) has girlfriends so they are cool with it.

@IDontHateRainbows

To add. The ONLY reason I am now being believed is because I managed to make that phone call during the actual abuse. They refused to believe me or even look into it properly or even suspend the guy whilst they investigated. They refused to believe me in any of the many calls, also recorded that I made in The 24 hours after the incident.

Do you think I'm the only women that member of staff that DBS checked in his nice NHS ambulance service uniform abused? How many do you think he abused before Me? How many afterwards?

How many is OK?

A DBS means fuck all. All it means is at the point they are checked they hadn't managed to get caught doing anything. It doesn't mean they are nice safe people!

And you are not doing yourself any favours believing it means something. You are at the same risk with a DBS checked uniformed person as you are with the twice convicted rapist lurking in the bushes on your way through the dark park at tea time.

Here was a DBS checked male.

I am interested to know what makes him different to Wallace, a DBS checked ambulance driver who sent sexual abuse to a woman reliant on ambulance personnel regularly? Wallace also being a male using a female toilet.

The common denominator is that they are male. And 98% of sex offenders are male and that statistic is reliable across international countries too.

Hence why all male people should be excluded from female single sex spaces, and children should not be taught to lower their boundaries.

https://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/news/assistant-head-teacher-caught-with-11-500-child-abuse-images

And that's fantastic. But now your granddaughters are also being taught they can become boys, and that boys can become girls, and that if a boy says he's a girl then they must believe him - or rather her - and treat him - or rather her - exactly as if he - or rather she - is a girl. No matter how he - or rather she - looks and no matter how he - or rather she - behaves. And your grandsons are being taught that if they want to they can become girls, that making such a change will cost them less emotionally than just wanting to change, and that if they do change in some way then all of society will accept them as girls.

And that's all under that same rainbow flag.

The rainbow has changed its meaning again. It's really not just about tolerance any more. There's some really harmful stuff going on under the rainbow flag now, on top of the good stuff.

Indeed, while a DBS check is better then nothing it will only flag people with previous registered offences. Certainly down my club when we are recruiting new coaches/support volunteers we certainly don't just rely on DBS checks, we vigorously follow up references with previous clubs not only formally but 'off the record' informally as well. Your point about 'safeguarding protocols teaches us to make no groups for special consideration' is spot on yet we are now expected to ignore that in order to validate a certain groups feelings.

More 💐for you, @Boiledbeetle - and a Tunnocks teacake too!

@Boiledbeetle I'm also sending you 🌺

It fucks me off that we are just meant to shut up and put up. It fucks me off that women aren't believed. How many don't complain? How many don't have 'evidence' therefore know it will be his word against theirs - often resulting in the woman getting the bad name, the 'black mark' I'm so, so sorry you had to go through this. I hope you get some justice eventually.

I'm Autistic and won't get taxis for example. I can't / won't do this because to me, it's akin to getting in a car with a stranger (in my black and white thinking) I can't get my head around it. I avoid so many things in life and barely go anywhere. I'm disabled, but I can still drive short distances for now, thankfully. My Dad helps me out a lot, but when he's not here any more, I'm fucked. Requiring help or care which means potentially being alone with a man is a minefield. It's been made 100 times worse by the fact that we as women are supposed to be OK with allowing men in women's spaces now. Well I'm not OK with this and it's already having an impact on my life. Fuck The Patriarchy.

Just to make one more point.

Considering Boiled's personal experience and the current standard of women who no longer even bother reporting their abuse or their rapes because of the low prosecution rate or the horrendous process to get their reports even investigated, why the fuck does anyone think that DBS checking makes it a 'safer' bet to allow a male with a DBS check into a female single sex space without the guarantee of another person there for extra security?

Fine if they are a DBS checked male and there is another person there to chaperone while they are doing their job. But chances are there is no one else in that toilet with you and that DBS checked male. That is why in the past all males over about 8 were kept out of female single sex spaces. No exceptions at all.

I am not quite understanding why people put so much confidence in a DBS check.

I will add to the never trust someone just because they are dbs checked.

I personally knew a man who at the time had two convictions for raping children and one conviction for murdering a woman in her 80s. His police file went missing BEFORE computers were a thing and dbs checks were a thing. So when he applied for his job at the crown court many years later (having raped a third child after getting out of prison for the murder) at a point when computers and dbs checks existed, nothing showed up on his file.

But yeah trust someone whose been dbs checked everything will be fine!

On the other hand you can have a conviction that can NEVER be considered “spent” for certain jobs, yet pose less threat/harm to someone than a fly. It’s a crude measure with an illusion of certainty.

I remember you mentioning the abuse when it happened Boiled. So sorry to hear that you're still going through it.

Their response to the second investigation is due middle of this month! should be interesting!

Maybe the cat identifies as a rabbit