To think that most women don't even have high body counts?

[etchedowl]

I read this article in the guardian this morning https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/03/when-andrew-tate-and-the-online-manboys-obsess-over-a-bodycount-girls-you-know-what-to-do which is a reaction to the current misogynistic male obsession with a woman's body count i.e. how many men she has slept with. Firstly I agree with the article that it is a totally misogynistic trope and not to be tolerated. But Secondly I wonder to myself, who are all these women with large "body counts"?

Most women I know like myself (now in my early 30's) would have dated and had boyfriend in their teens which mostly they did not have sex with then maybe a boyfriend or two they did sleep with before finally meeting the man they are now married to at some point during university or early 20's.

Most women I know were not out clubbing every week, meeting and sleeping with different men every week or month as the paranoid fantasies of these incel men say but were more likely to be tucked up at home with their long term boyfriends and husbands having a nice meal and watching box sets or even playing scrabble. Even the single women I still know will mostly socialise together at home with going out being the odd time rather than it being a bit never ending smorgasbord of hot men and sex!

Do any of these men actually know any women or do they just believe the absolute drivel they read online by shady men who are ultimately trying to sell them a product by capitalising their insecurity and paranoia?

Please note if there are women out their having a whale of a time having tons of sex then more power to them absolutely no judgement from me. The point of my post it that it seems in no way to me the norm for most women.

Exactly. My experience could not be more different from OP’s. Among my friends most settled down well into their 30s having had a series of boyfriends, flings, FWBs and ONSs over 15-20 years.

As PP said, you do the math.

Most women I know like myself (now in my early 30's) would have dated and had boyfriend in their teens which mostly they did not have sex with then maybe a boyfriend or two they did sleep with before finally meeting the man they are now married to at some point during university or early 20's.

I don't know any women who did this. Most of my friends in different circles slept with at least 10 men between teens and mid 20s.

I'm 39, met DH at 27, and have a count of 33.

I'm considered to be one of the more "tame" ones in my circles 😂

It’s really not a male obsession at all - neither I nor my many male friends could give a monkey’s toss about how many people or partners / wives have slept with before us.

It’s just more nonsense by that idiot Tate to stir more women against men and vice versa.

Ha ha. True probably, fragile ego

Nope, I don’t know anyone at home playing scrabble in their early 20s, you’ve led a sheltered life op. And I think you sound a bit judgemental.

OneTC
You definitely didn't grow up in Croydon

MrsTerryPratcgett
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<nods head like a Churchill nodding dog sat on a dashboard>

Nah I was a massive whore in my late teens/early 20s.
Enjoyed myself immensely throughout uni, backpacking etc.

Didn’t meet my now husband until I was 28, and he was 40 so I’m sure he’s been around the block a few times.

Ahhhh I have fond memories of my hoe era. No regrets 😂

I've never come across a grown up who uses phrase body count. Is this something adults actually say? Like rather than teen boys?

@etchedowl You kind of sound like you’re ‘and anyway, it isn’t true, so there aren’t many women with a ‘count’ so only a few…..

High low or zero, it’s no one’s business but mine.

See I fitted your description, then was widowed in my 30's. I didn't want a relationship, so had fuck buddies.
A lot of women are happy to up their body count when suddenly single, had all the children they want etc etc. Thanks to HRT, better nutrition, control of circumstances etc sex isn't stopping, or slowing down at menopause.

I'm mid 30s and although I didn't do one night stands, I've dated a lot men for a few months at a time until I found DH. My number I would consider low, but certainly higher than a 3 which article talks about! We live our lives, I like sex. Was always going to have sex with the person I'm dating!

They’re not, by and large. Don’t paint us with the same brush as that idiot Tate - that’s like me saying all women are easy because they’ve had fun in the sack with a few different people.

Totally inappropriate and inaccurate.

That's probably it!

I was just thinking about how many people I had slept with in total versus how many were actually really good at sex. There was quite a huge disparity. (Total divided by 10!)

‘Most women you know’ means that you only know women like you then? It’s absolutely NOT most women I know!! I’ve shagged loads of people over the years.
Have noticed on mn though that lots of posters Advise people (women) to stop having sex with their other halves as a punishment or as a way of bringing their oh back into line for some indiscretion or other, which always implies to me that they don’t like sex that much and use it as some kind of sacred gift that they bestow or A commodity that can/ should be traded. I don’t think that’s healthy !

Who cares what that dickshit thinks?

"on average men will have slept with more people in their lives than women will!"

How can this be true - if we're talking about heterosexual people only? Every time a man sleeps with a woman, a woman sleeps with a man.

Women tend to round down when asked, men tend to round upwards.

Ah I can't edit on the app! I said "people I've slept with" I meant "men I've slept with"

The sex I've had with women has been vastly superior.

Why though? What difference does it make if she's slept with 3 or 10 or 107?

I don't wish I'd slept with less but I wish I'd been less worried about pleasing men than pleasing myself. And should've chucked some women in for good measure.

There's some I didn't get to sleep with that I wish I had. And plenty that I wish I hadn't bothered jumping on board. Ah well.

And they get told off within two posts. Most women on here think that's stupid.

Please note if there are women out their having a whale of a time having tons of sex then more power to them absolutely no judgement from me. The point of my post it that it seems in no way to me the norm for most women

It's interesting you think your experience is the "norm", why is that?

My "norm" is very much going out having a whale of a time. I have a very high body count. There was no staying in snd cuddling with my bf on a Saturday night.

They only way to know which of us is the "norm", is to do a study and ask every woman.
But I wouldn't want that, because its nobody's business.

As others have said, there is no such thing as a "norm" every women is different.
Incels and Andrew Tate can just fuck off.

And that is the 'orgasm gap' which is an observable phenomenon. Google it.

The problem with the OP

Most women I know like myself (now in my early 30's)

So basically the OP is basing all this on her peers and social circle. Without a thought that women outside her social circle could well be doing completely different things and prefer doing totally different things... precisely because they are outside her social circle.

Do people really keep count?? I couldn't tell you how many people I'd slept with. It'd be an instant 'nope' from me to anyone who even asked me that question and equally I'd not give a shit how many they had slept with.

I think I watch too much TV because I thought this was about how many people women had killed. And I haven't killed anybody, tho there's time yet