To think that most women don't even have high body counts?

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I read this article in the guardian this morning https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/03/when-andrew-tate-and-the-online-manboys-obsess-over-a-bodycount-girls-you-know-what-to-do which is a reaction to the current misogynistic male obsession with a woman's body count i.e. how many men she has slept with. Firstly I agree with the article that it is a totally misogynistic trope and not to be tolerated. But Secondly I wonder to myself, who are all these women with large "body counts"?

Most women I know like myself (now in my early 30's) would have dated and had boyfriend in their teens which mostly they did not have sex with then maybe a boyfriend or two they did sleep with before finally meeting the man they are now married to at some point during university or early 20's.

Most women I know were not out clubbing every week, meeting and sleeping with different men every week or month as the paranoid fantasies of these incel men say but were more likely to be tucked up at home with their long term boyfriends and husbands having a nice meal and watching box sets or even playing scrabble. Even the single women I still know will mostly socialise together at home with going out being the odd time rather than it being a bit never ending smorgasbord of hot men and sex!

Do any of these men actually know any women or do they just believe the absolute drivel they read online by shady men who are ultimately trying to sell them a product by capitalising their insecurity and paranoia?

Please note if there are women out their having a whale of a time having tons of sex then more power to them absolutely no judgement from me. The point of my post it that it seems in no way to me the norm for most women.

Your post oozes judgement, as do the others who claim their friends or acquaintances had lots of one night stands because they were insecure. Most women having lots of sex are doing it because they like having sex. They aren’t as full of self loathing as some posters seem to think they are, or should be.

As per the article I posted upthread and simply by the number of responses on this thread, these figures are bogus. My count (I think) is 26. Average for males according to that survey.

If the men are shagging enough prostituted women to put the statistics out of whack that much, they really are the ones to avoid, not women who've had consensual, unpaid, enthusiastically consented to sex.

I'd much rather a man had a high number of past partners he left with a smile on their face than one woman who was only doing it because she was paid.

Consent is far more important than number.

Like anyone really cares what Andrew Tate thinks🙄
Besides, quantity isn't the issue for many women, it's quality that matters really.

I agree with you all this talk from incels about how "every women in the west has a double digit or triple digit body count let's go to the Philippines" is bullshit 😂 it's just a strawman excuse for their own failings

Yup, most of my friends (also male) have single digit body counts (that I know of). Not that there's anything wrong with a high one though.

Mine is actually 2, I had a boyfriend at age 16 that I slept with, and then my now-DH at age 17 and that's it. But if I hadn't met the right person so early, who knows, I've certainly always had a high sex drive.

They want women who've been conditioned to submit to men. Western women's "promiscuity" is a, is "fig leaf" the term or should I use "smoke screen"? It's an excuse to reject us that isn't the real reason because even they see that the optics of demanding submissive women are terrible.

It’s nobody’s fucking business and the term ‘ bodycount ‘ makes me want to vomit its so misogynistic .

People like A Tate, are all about power, and undermining women. It’s not about “ body count” it’s about narcissistic behaviour, and the ability to get away with it. The man has been accused of kidnapping and sexual abuse. What’s his body count ?

But anthropologically speaking, an act of sex is a 5 minute commitment for a man, but can be a 20 year commitment for a woman.women are therefore biologically programmed to be very selectove in their choice of partner whereas men are programmed to spread their seed as widely as possible.
A lack of discernment in a woman cam be viewed as unnatural.

I haven’t read the article and won’t because I couldn’t care less about what anyone thinks about this. Who you sleep with is your own business.

I've never been asked for a "body count" from a man, even my DH. Its insecure and pathetic.

Of course there's a norm. Just like anything else there is a distribution and most people will be similar while a minority are extremes,

Are you saying every woman has slept with a different number of men? That makes no sense.

I would be interested to know what the distribution looks like. I certainly know a lot of people who met their husband young and probably only slept with about 3 people in total but whether that is representative I don't know.... going by this thread I guess not!

Having had a few, I don't think the level of experience of the man correlates with their skill level. Some of the most promiscuous men were terrible! The best had only one prior partner. I think sex is like driving...everyone thinks they are better than average!

If he continues along the path he's been going along, kidnapping, trafficking, pimping, violence .... I wouldn't be surprised if some poor woman ends up dead in his vicinity.

I'm sure he'll find a way to blame her for that too.

He's an example of what happens when a father, who's probably not entirely sane, raises a boy telling him he's going to be the next world chess genius .... Except he isn't.

He's bat shit. Nastily bat shit too.

A lack of discernment in a woman cam be viewed as unnatural.

We don't have to worry about that now in civilised countries because we have access to contraception and abortion. Also, discernment doesn't necessarily mean monogamy. Extramarital pairings with high-quality males increase the genetic diversity of the woman's offspring, in turn increasing the chance of at least some of the kids that it takes her nine months to gestate making it to adulthood.

And from an evolutionary sense, we have concealed ovulation so we don't know about the 20 year commitment and women are more likely to cheat with hot blokes when they are ovulating. Just like bluebirds.

You and me baby, aint nothing but mammals...

Whether a woman has slept with one or a thousand, it is her business and hers alone
Why is anyone even opening an article by that oxygen thief, let alone giving him head space.

It's called "know thy enemy".

Sorry but you and your friends sound boring as hell! Spending your 20s staying in every weekend watching box sets and playing scrabble??!! 😂 I absolutely was out clubbing every weekend at that age and had my fair share of men too.

Yes, of course there is a "norm" from a mathematically perspective.

As you say, the only way to know is to look at the distribution. But, personally, I would not engage in a study, as its nobody's business.

I read the OPs use of the word "norm", as the colloquial, shortened version of "normal".
That's why I kept quoting norm with " ".

There is no such thing as a "normal woman", well not in my experience.

Thats the beauty of being a woman, aside from sharing the same sex chromosomes, we are all different.

That's the point I was making.

Haven't rtft but in case anyone hasn't pointed out..."Of 4,006 Britons asked, 61% were willing to disclose how many sexual partners they have had, 25% preferred not to say, and 13% couldn't recall". So a tiny, tiny number of people the OP is basing opinions on. The numbers are certainly way off in my social circles. I only know a handful of people who married their partner from uni and only know two who weren't divorced within a few years.

My daughter just showed me a YouTube called Pearl. This is an extract of what she say,

“College lowers the birth rate!!

70% of women go to college Christian’s leave not Christians!

Some surveys have put college women sleeping with 7 men a year!

The birthdate drops as we educate women!

College makes us dumber but makes us think we are smarter!

College is feminism!”

shocking that a woman said this.

I've come across Pick Me Pearl before. She'll say whatever anti-women clickbait shit she needs to say in order to try and eke out a right wing media career. There's a lot of money in that.

Women will collude in the oppression of their own sex class in the hope of crumbs from men. Lipstick Alley calls them "Pickmeisha".