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To think that most women don't even have high body counts?

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etchedowl · 03/11/2023 13:08

I read this article in the guardian this morning https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/03/when-andrew-tate-and-the-online-manboys-obsess-over-a-bodycount-girls-you-know-what-to-do which is a reaction to the current misogynistic male obsession with a woman's body count i.e. how many men she has slept with. Firstly I agree with the article that it is a totally misogynistic trope and not to be tolerated. But Secondly I wonder to myself, who are all these women with large "body counts"?

Most women I know like myself (now in my early 30's) would have dated and had boyfriend in their teens which mostly they did not have sex with then maybe a boyfriend or two they did sleep with before finally meeting the man they are now married to at some point during university or early 20's.

Most women I know were not out clubbing every week, meeting and sleeping with different men every week or month as the paranoid fantasies of these incel men say but were more likely to be tucked up at home with their long term boyfriends and husbands having a nice meal and watching box sets or even playing scrabble. Even the single women I still know will mostly socialise together at home with going out being the odd time rather than it being a bit never ending smorgasbord of hot men and sex!

Do any of these men actually know any women or do they just believe the absolute drivel they read online by shady men who are ultimately trying to sell them a product by capitalising their insecurity and paranoia?

Please note if there are women out their having a whale of a time having tons of sex then more power to them absolutely no judgement from me. The point of my post it that it seems in no way to me the norm for most women.

When Andrew Tate and the online manboys obsess over a ‘bodycount’, girls, you know what to do | Van Badham

Tate’s comments that he rejects women who have slept with more than three men betrays a screaming admission of insecurity and immaturity

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/03/when-andrew-tate-and-the-online-manboys-obsess-over-a-bodycount-girls-you-know-what-to-do

OP posts:
PaperDoIIs · 04/11/2023 19:25

Oh and if you really want to know who these women are @etchedowl ... A vast majority will be the girls who were abused, neglected ,traumatised as children/in their teens. The ones that struggled with their mental health or had addiction issues. Ofc plenty are also women who simply enjoyed (probably still do)the freedom and the act.

FLRT · 04/11/2023 19:45

You have very, very ‘traditional’ (to put it kindly) views of women OP, and your blanket generalisations of women are genuinely troubling to me. Go watch an episode of Sex and the City and have your little mind blown!

ThinWomansBrain · 04/11/2023 19:48

From the title I thought you meant dead bodies (as in people you'd murdered)😆

DickJagger · 04/11/2023 19:52

I am surprised that an actual adult woman uses the term "body count". Isn't that a teenager lad/MRA thing?

Morgysmum · 04/11/2023 19:55

If women sleep around, we are classed as sluts, whores, slags and easy.
However, it seems men are patted on the back and told good job, what a stud. Very much double standards.

IAteTheLastOne · 04/11/2023 19:57

Sometimes I count my sexual encounters up..then a couple of days later I’ll remember another one 😂 ‘Oohh, him…’
I know you’ve tried to prove you’re not sheltered by telling us you’ve lived alone in London etc. but the fact that you keep basing your ‘most’ women on your circle of friends and can’t get past that this is not representative at all, shows that your views are sheltered. You have not once been able to admit that your ‘most women’ ideal has been challenged on this thread. You just can’t see past your little circle of friends-not one of my friends, here or abroad, have married in their early twenties.

DickJagger · 04/11/2023 19:57

Morgysmum · 04/11/2023 19:55

If women sleep around, we are classed as sluts, whores, slags and easy.
However, it seems men are patted on the back and told good job, what a stud. Very much double standards.

As it ever was...<wistful>

Women aren't allowed to enjoy sex, unless it is with a long-term partner.

Fuck that noise!

Sugarfish · 04/11/2023 19:57

3? I once had 3 in a month back when I was single. I used to really enjoy one night stands

OneTC · 04/11/2023 19:57

MrsTerryPratchett · 04/11/2023 18:43

OMG @OneTC his surname is a trade.

It's a small world. And not in a Disney sense.

Craziness! When you suggested earlier that we might know the same people I thought yeah but Croydon is a big place but no, it really isn't!

I suddenly feel compelled to name change Grin

DickJagger · 04/11/2023 19:59

Sugarfish · 04/11/2023 19:57

3? I once had 3 in a month back when I was single. I used to really enjoy one night stands

Ahhh memories....1998...out Friday and Saturday night every week. I'll say no more 😂

Blueink · 04/11/2023 20:11

KimberleyClark · 03/11/2023 13:17

I’m 62. I didn’t have a boyfriend until I was in my early 20s. I’ve had four sexual partners in my life, the last of which was my DH of 33 years.

According to this vile misogynist though, 3 is too many.

I didn’t know what a ‘body count’ was it sounds like a murderer ffs.

DickJagger · 04/11/2023 20:18

According to this vile misogynist though, 3 is too many

Is that 3 per weekend orrrrr.....I mean, asking for a friend.

porridgeisbae · 04/11/2023 20:20

Adult cinema in the afternoon with the shady ex and several anonymous strangers at once.

You could bump your number up fairly quickly that way if you ever felt like it OP . Grin

DickJagger · 04/11/2023 20:20

porridgeisbae · 04/11/2023 20:20

Adult cinema in the afternoon with the shady ex and several anonymous strangers at once.

You could bump your number up fairly quickly that way if you ever felt like it OP . Grin

Stopppppp 😂😅

Gwenhwyfar · 04/11/2023 20:24

Willyoujustbequiet · 03/11/2023 23:13

You lost me at most women were not out clubbing every week.

At uni everyone I knew went out nearly every night..

My uni town didn't even have a club! And no way did people go out drinking and dancing very late EVERY night. Local/union pub maybe and a big night out on the weekend, but we did actually work very, very occasionally.

Gwenhwyfar · 04/11/2023 20:27

Bananananananananana · 03/11/2023 20:27

I guess, but I'm not sure anyone would be calling a woman with a body count of 40 sheltered for believing everyone else was like her-

Just saying😂

Of course, MN prude shaming again.

jillycat72 · 04/11/2023 20:27

PaperDoIIs · 04/11/2023 19:25

Oh and if you really want to know who these women are @etchedowl ... A vast majority will be the girls who were abused, neglected ,traumatised as children/in their teens. The ones that struggled with their mental health or had addiction issues. Ofc plenty are also women who simply enjoyed (probably still do)the freedom and the act.

I think this sums up some of the issues really and why the narrative of Andrew Tait is so abhorrent.

on a flippant note though I had hoped this thread was about how many bodies were under the patio 😂

DickJagger · 04/11/2023 20:28

Of course, MN prude shaming again

Ah, yes, that is DEFFO a thing.....😂

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 04/11/2023 20:30

porridgeisbae · 04/11/2023 20:20

Adult cinema in the afternoon with the shady ex and several anonymous strangers at once.

You could bump your number up fairly quickly that way if you ever felt like it OP . Grin

Does that kind of cinema even exist now? I would have thought that streaming and sex clubs would have rendered them obsolete.

HerRoyalGoddess · 04/11/2023 20:31
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I was hoping for murder count and was sadly disappointed when I opened this thread, but honestly who cares what sad little incel men think?

I'm 42 and lost my virginity at 14, from 17-19 had a series of one night stands or fwb met my husband at 20 and have been with him the last 22 yrs.

Unless you're not having sex at all it doesn't matter if you're sticking the same sausage up there for the entirety of your sexual endeavours or having a sausage fest every weekend because it doesn't change anything down there.

On a side note are we expected to include our B.O.B's and non B.O.Bs?

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 04/11/2023 20:34

^On a side note are we expected to include our B.O.B's and non B.O.Bs?^

Go mains-powered or go home.

That quote is meant to italicise. No idea why it won't.

Werewolfnotswearwolf · 04/11/2023 20:36

Same here! Maybe it’s the circles you move in - nothing like my experiences.

Hamburger233 · 04/11/2023 20:36

Sugarfish · 04/11/2023 19:57

3? I once had 3 in a month back when I was single. I used to really enjoy one night stands

Pmsl.

I know a girl who'd have had 3 in a night. Definitely 2 anyway.

Gwenhwyfar · 04/11/2023 20:38

DickJagger · 04/11/2023 20:28

Of course, MN prude shaming again

Ah, yes, that is DEFFO a thing.....😂

It definitely is.

QueSyrahSyrah · 04/11/2023 20:39

Wow. I'm a few years older than you OP, but I'll just say that our experiences of younger life are wildly different.

(And I can think of approximately one couple I know that met at Uni. Everyone else was in their very late 20s or more likely 30s. There was a lot of clubbing every weekend went on in the middle).

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