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To be envious that Victoria Coren Mitchell has a second baby at 51

598 replies

Monetm · 01/11/2023 21:57

https://www.ok.co.uk/tv/breaking-victoria-coren-mitchell-baby-31338022.amp

Just that, really. I’m sure there will be a lot of posts on here about it’s too old and she should have done it sooner, but given that she didn’t, I am envious that she has the money and the luck and the situation to be able to do it now.

Can you imagine how different women’s lives would be if we just didn’t have to worry so much about the end of our fertility?

Victoria Coren Mitchell, 51, gives birth to second child with David Mitchell

Only Connect presenter Victoria Coren Mitchell has welcomed her second child with comedian David Mitchell, and the couple announced the happy news on social media earlier today

https://www.ok.co.uk/tv/breaking-victoria-coren-mitchell-baby-31338022.amp

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ElevenSeven · 02/11/2023 16:58

No, it ends for a reason.

Mary46 · 02/11/2023 17:02

Its def hard as others say juggling elderly in your 50s. My mother is demanding. Imagine that and a baby. No thanks. Im fit for my bed by friday pm lol Im so tired.

boako · 02/11/2023 18:09

Monetm · 01/11/2023 23:16

drink

You what?

boako · 02/11/2023 18:12

Also agree with k4tm - I agree re menopause. I don't miss periods for a single second, and I like being able to have sex without worrying about pregnancy.

Whiskeypowers · 02/11/2023 18:48

anotherside · 02/11/2023 13:03

@Annasgirl

The ageism on this site is shocking. I cannot believe how much young women seem to hate older women. Society has really done a number on you all

I think there’s an element of bitterness and jealousy to some of the comments: Rich and successful woman not having children - fine. Rich and successful woman having children later in life having had loads of fun and finished building a successful career - not fine.

It’s certainly interesting to compare with men’s reactions to older fatherhood. While there’s certainly eyebrows raised about, say, a 70+ guy having a child, I don’t know any men who would consider a 40-50 year old becoming a father as something particularly remarkable or strange.

Absolutely spot on. How DARE she!

EtonMessy · 02/11/2023 19:00

Big congratulations to them, I think they’re both fabulous and it’s lovely news. They seem a very loving couple, listening to David read the part in his autobiography about how he met and got together with Victoria it’s obvious he absolutely adores her. I’m sure their newborn baby and their older daughter will grow up in a loving and happy environment. Although both daughters have Giles Coren as an uncle so I suppose no family is absolutely perfect !!

SquishingWell · 02/11/2023 19:02

Good for her but I feel tired just thinking about it 😅

xanadu123 · 02/11/2023 19:20

For everyone who thinks having kids in 40s/50s is selfish because you'll be a burden on them as adults... my parents had me in their 20s and my dad's illness and death in his 60s still happened when my partner and I were getting ready to have kids of our own. Who can predict illness and death! There are 70 year olds far fitter and more energetic than some 40 year olds. And a baby born to a fulfilled/happy 50 something will be a lot happier than one born to an insecure, resentful 20 something. You can't live life planning on a schedule so very happy for her and David. And positive news for any women thinking she missed the boat by waiting till later in life.

Throwhandsupintheair · 02/11/2023 19:37

Whiskeypowers · 02/11/2023 18:48

Absolutely spot on. How DARE she!

Also in full agreement.

Heb1996 · 02/11/2023 20:14

@Yesyoucant well you were obviously lucky enough to be able to plan your family so that you had them at the age you wanted to. Not everyone is so fortunate. I married at 19 and imagined that I would probably complete my family by the mid to late twenties. As it happens, my husband died 14 months after our wedding before we had a chance to have any children at all and I stayed single for another 14 years. I then met my second husband at 32 and married at 34. Started trying to conceive at 36 and encountered difficulties. Ended up doing IVF and was lucky enough to have my first baby at 40 and conceived naturally at 45. Life is sometimes sh!t and you can’t plan everything. You just have to be grateful for the blessings that you do have. It might have been better to have had kids in my 20s but I think I’m a far better mother in my 40s than I ever would have been in my 20s. I wish the Coren Mitchell’s all the best with their new baby.

foodiefil · 02/11/2023 20:15

Jesus Christ the question wasn’t “what do you think of this?” The question was wouldn’t women’s lives be better if we didn’t have to worry about a biological clock
the clock that starts ticking at 30 and gets increasing louder until menopause unless you have children.

congrats to everyone who can say “god no I wouldn’t want a baby then” because chances are you have had your babies, and you are imagining the early days tiredness at 51.

Hedjwitch · 02/11/2023 20:17

Happy for them if its what they want but couldnt think of anything worse personally. At least they can afford to buy in help

BeccaGeej · 02/11/2023 20:48

I could have written this. I always automatically like a celeb more when I find out they only have one child! Bonkers, I know! Think it's because I only have one and have always regretted my decision so I actually felt selfishly quite sad when I read this.

Firefly1987 · 02/11/2023 20:50

VanityDiesHard · 02/11/2023 13:24

Good looking? I presume you mean their mother.

Haha I raised an eyebrow at that as well-neither are particularly attractive. Although I don't find VCM very likeable so that might affect my opinion. She does look good for her age.

Cronk · 02/11/2023 21:11

xanadu123 · 02/11/2023 19:20

For everyone who thinks having kids in 40s/50s is selfish because you'll be a burden on them as adults... my parents had me in their 20s and my dad's illness and death in his 60s still happened when my partner and I were getting ready to have kids of our own. Who can predict illness and death! There are 70 year olds far fitter and more energetic than some 40 year olds. And a baby born to a fulfilled/happy 50 something will be a lot happier than one born to an insecure, resentful 20 something. You can't live life planning on a schedule so very happy for her and David. And positive news for any women thinking she missed the boat by waiting till later in life.

If I die at 60, my children will be 40 and 44.

If VM and DM die at 60, their child will be 9 years old. Year 4 or 5.

So... ya know. There clearly is a difference.

Manthide · 02/11/2023 21:29

If that's what they wanted good for them, they have the money to cushion any difficulties. I'm glad I didn't have a baby at that age though, I find it exhausting enough having a 15 year old at the age of 58 let alone a 6 or 7 year old.

Sunnydays41 · 02/11/2023 21:40

Am with the 'Nothing worse at 51...' crowd. Heck, even at 11 years younger, I wouldn't go through all that again!

And yep, would take childlessness over baby at 51...

Manthide · 02/11/2023 21:41

ChickenPicken · 02/11/2023 13:06

Echoing some of this. My dm was 41 when I was born and always seemed young for her age (in a good way!) and I had no complaints about her age. But she died at 70 when I was 31 and in the years since I have often thought that actually if she had been a lot older (so I would have been much younger when she died) there would have been anger mixed in with my grief. The maths on early 40s, life expectancy of “3 score and 10” and my age were all ok enough but I do think I would have felt differently if she had had me at 50 and died when I was at university.

Edited

My nana was 41 when I was born and always seemed old to me. I'm almost 60 now and luckily still have both my parents and they are still very active. In fact they've taken dd3 who's 15 to the ballet tonight. I do worry about dd3 losing us when she is relatively young.

LadyChilli · 02/11/2023 21:45

longlostauthor · 01/11/2023 22:57

Somehow these threads are making me feel like an old mum for having had a baby at 38.

Same and it's quite unpleasant reading posts where people are clearly resentful of their parents for not being younger. I am healthy, fit and energetic and fully intend to do everything in my power to see DS well into adulthood.

mikado1 · 02/11/2023 22:19

KimberleyClark · 02/11/2023 10:19

Like I said before, having old parents needing care is a mental load whether or not you are physically doing the caring. You don’t just get carers in/put them in a home and forget about them.

Exactly. Honestly. I can't believe anyone who makes the 'But money' argument has been there/gas a heart. Being 30 for example, enjoying life, maybe working hard, maybe starting a family with the worry of an ill or frail parent is simply a wholly different experience to those who go through these years relatively carefree without these worries, and v often with the support of parents. I remember being mid 30s with a preschooler and a baby and a mum in a playgroup asked if I was going home to my parents for some TLC... no, I was going home, kids in tow, to support them. The paid carers doesn't change that, nor the phonecalls from doctors, the liasing with siblings, the worrying when away etc. It may not happen and V&D may live to be sprightly ninety somethings but the risks are higher as you're older, obviously.

But anyway, only those who know know and those who don't may never, if they're lucky.

LizzBurg · 02/11/2023 22:51

Cronk · 02/11/2023 21:11

If I die at 60, my children will be 40 and 44.

If VM and DM die at 60, their child will be 9 years old. Year 4 or 5.

So... ya know. There clearly is a difference.

And if you’d all died at 46 they wouldn’t have had any children at all. My MIL was 86 when she died so if we use her as our benchmark baby Coren-Mitchell will be well into their 30s.
We can all do maths.

RampantIvy · 02/11/2023 23:07

Same and it's quite unpleasant reading posts where people are clearly resentful of their parents for not being younger

I wasn't resentful of having older parents, but I didn't have my parents around for as long as my friends did. I vowed that I would complete my family by the age of 30, but that never happened.

KimberleyClark · 02/11/2023 23:10

RampantIvy · 02/11/2023 23:07

Same and it's quite unpleasant reading posts where people are clearly resentful of their parents for not being younger

I wasn't resentful of having older parents, but I didn't have my parents around for as long as my friends did. I vowed that I would complete my family by the age of 30, but that never happened.

I wasn’t resentful either, just sad at having never got to know my father as an adult.

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/11/2023 23:15

What lovely news. I don't know who she is 😂 but doesn't matter

It was her choice. She is happy

But why shouldn't she be a mum and have a sibling and much wanted child

She's only 6yrs older then I was

I was almost 44. Oldies /regulars on mn know that I wanted to be 33/34. But mother nature didn't play ball

10yrs ttc - 5 private ivf (with own eggs) and finally No 5 worked and mini blondes is now 6 and my world

Those who are young mums will obv say god no. It's grandchild time now

I assume due to her age it was donor eggs/embryos and peob done abroad as U.K. doesn't usually do over 45/46 I think

But it's a much wanted baby so really shouldn't matter to anyone else

LinaM20 · 02/11/2023 23:18

I’m 48 and couldn’t imagine starting again. I’m closer to being a grandma!
i don’t think it’s selfish though, it’s never a given that you’ll have tomorrow with your kids. My mum was diagnosed with cancer at 33 when I was 3 and my brother 5, she passed away 5 years later at 38. Victoria’s kids could well have her around until they’re in their 40s.