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To think someone must be able to do something - part 3

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PurpleLampShades · 01/11/2023 09:09

I never thought I’d be needing to start a third thread but here we are. The first two threads have been a great source of support for me so I’m going to carry on.

First Thread
Second Thread

Long story short - DS (17) has been in a “relationship” with a woman 11 years older than him that I believe started when he was 15, though I have no proof as they deny it. This has been going on since at least March 2022. SS, the police and the DSL at his college have all been involved and things from that front have been pretty much exhausted. He has been on CIN and early intervention plans, been visited/spoken to by the police, offered workshops, counselling, contact centre etc. The main stumbling blocks are DS’s refusal/inability to recognise the abusive and toxic situation he is in and the resulting refusal to engage with services to extract him from it.
She is abusive, manipulative and extremely controlling. She has isolated him almost entirely from friends, family and hobbies. She is destroying his self esteem, confidence and self-worth. She controls his phone, who he speaks to, where he goes, what he does. I know she has slapped him around the face more than once and was seen to put her hand around his throat while they were kissing once. I don’t know if there are other incidents like that. The remaining protective factor is that he is still managing to attend college, although attendance is a bit of a concern.

I am at the point of not really knowing what to do now. I feel like I’ve lost him.

OP posts:
IHateLegDay · 07/03/2024 20:23

How are you doing purple? Xxx

PandaChopChop · 07/03/2024 21:15

I'm so sorry to read your latest updates. No useful advice. Sending hugs xx

Babyshadows · 10/03/2024 13:07

Hey purple, just wanted to say that I’m thinking of you today. No words will make things better, I know ❤️ take care of yourself this Mother’s Day x

coffeestrongblacknosugar · 10/03/2024 14:46

Just wanted to say that I was thinking about you today. I often do anyway, but especially today. Flowers

BunniesRUs · 10/03/2024 19:55

I am so funking angry on your behalf OP and so very very sad for you. I wish I wish I could do something to help you.

HollyKnight · 10/03/2024 20:32

Aww I'm sorry this is still going on. I don't think there is anything more you can do that you haven't done already. All you can do is keep the door open and hope he'll find his way out one day. In the meantime, please don't put your own life on hold. You don't deserve to be kept in limbo.

wibblywobblywoo · 11/03/2024 10:58

"I haven’t done Clare’s Law because a) I already know she is a risk towards him and b) I very much doubt there’s anything to find out."

I have to* *say I find that a bit of a strange response - the process of Clare's Law - or the Domestic Violence Disclosure Scheme to be accurate would include a multi-agency meeting including the Police and Social Services to compare notes and information - you could suggest they include the college as there pastoral staff have certainly noted anomalies and injuries - I would have thought that would be a really good thing and it's something you have referred to previously as being frustrated that you can't have - everybody in the same room pooling all the facts.

Lunde · 11/03/2024 12:25

wibblywobblywoo · 11/03/2024 10:58

"I haven’t done Clare’s Law because a) I already know she is a risk towards him and b) I very much doubt there’s anything to find out."

I have to* *say I find that a bit of a strange response - the process of Clare's Law - or the Domestic Violence Disclosure Scheme to be accurate would include a multi-agency meeting including the Police and Social Services to compare notes and information - you could suggest they include the college as there pastoral staff have certainly noted anomalies and injuries - I would have thought that would be a really good thing and it's something you have referred to previously as being frustrated that you can't have - everybody in the same room pooling all the facts.

This has been going on a long time - this is the third thread.

There have already been multi agency involvement from police, ss and the college regarding the relationship and living situation. The problem is that OP's DS denies any issues of coercion/injury whenever he is interviewed and has refused to engage with the services offered. He stopped going to counselling and the agreed visits to him mum. He has also dropped out of college and dropped his hobbies and most contact with his old friends.

It is a huge worry for OP but I think she has done everything possible at this stage and I hope that he sees the light.

wibblywobblywoo · 11/03/2024 19:03

@Lunde

I've read all 3 threads.

As far as I can see although OP has spoken to multiple agencies there has never been a point where all those agencies have sat down together in the same room to discuss this. That, from what I have read, appears to be a part of the process of CL/DVDS. With now 3 physical injuries on record, and DS withdrawing from college notes compared across police/SS/college etc. would not be solely relying on DS's version of events.

In July DS will be 18 and then that's a whole different ball game in terms of intervention. Isn't CL/DVDS worth a try at this stage?

Seagrassbasket · 12/03/2024 23:41

@PurpleLampShades this is horrifying.

I cannot believe there can’t be an alert on his hospital records from social services, considering he was on a CIN plan. There are multiple youth agencies/workers that operate out of my local A&E. Could anything like this be explored?

TheSmallAssassin · 15/03/2024 21:54

Hi @PurpleLampShades - I have been following your posts from the start. I've been watching Red Nose Day tonight and they've just talked about this charity, I don't know if they can offer advice, or help support you through this, might be worth a look?

https://www.wefindaway.org.uk/

Worried About Someone's Relationship? | Findaway

Findaway can help you find the information you need, if you’re worried someone you know is in an abusive relationship. Talk to us: 0300 140 0061.

https://www.wefindaway.org.uk

GimmeGin · 19/03/2024 12:38

@PurpleLampShades as a mother of boys, I am so sorry you are still going through this. Your beautiful boy totally and utterly being controlled and abused by this terrible woman.
My sincere hope is that your lad eventually realises this is not normal and comes back to you soon.
In fact, I’m hoping she decides to let go of him soon. Perhaps when his child allowance stops and she won’t let him work, and the £150 a month doesn’t cut it anymore? Here’s hoping!!
🪻🌺🪻🌸🪻for you!

GimmeGin · 19/03/2024 12:40

TheSmallAssassin · 15/03/2024 21:54

Hi @PurpleLampShades - I have been following your posts from the start. I've been watching Red Nose Day tonight and they've just talked about this charity, I don't know if they can offer advice, or help support you through this, might be worth a look?

https://www.wefindaway.org.uk/

That sounds like an amazing charity. I hope @PurpleLampShades is still reading this thread.

GimmeGin · 19/03/2024 13:03

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AproposofEverything · 19/03/2024 16:46

Just dropping by to say still thinking of you and your son, Purple.

CaroleSinger · 20/03/2024 20:43

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Christ almighty! Can anyone really be this insensitive? Well that should give the OP lots of comfort. Really well played eh?

GimmeGin · 20/03/2024 21:24

CaroleSinger · 20/03/2024 20:43

Christ almighty! Can anyone really be this insensitive? Well that should give the OP lots of comfort. Really well played eh?

Certainly not my intention @CaroleSinger I have asked for my post to be removed. I was hoping there would be some good agencies signposted for males being abused by their female partners, as this seems to be what is happening now with the op’s Ds needing stitches and broken wrist.

however, I take on board your comments, and apologise wholeheartedly to Op if this has caused any upset.

IHateLegDay · 26/03/2024 23:39

Thinking of you Purple! You and your son are often on my mind.

BunniesRUs · 31/03/2024 11:10

Hey Purple. I hope you're doing OK on this Bank Holiday weekend. Sending you strength and love. Have you got a therapist or similar for yourself by the way so you have some professional support? Or are you OK with friends and family (and us x)?
Your son will come back to you one day. I don't know when but he will.

AproposofEverything · 31/03/2024 17:45

Also thinking of you, Purple, wishing for better days for you soon.

Capmagturk · 08/04/2024 20:37

I've posted under different names since the start and just wanted to leave a message to say I'm thinking of you.

Thedogscollar · 13/04/2024 21:56

@PurpleLampShades
You are often in my thoughts and I hope you are doing OK. I can't imagine your pain but I'm hoping that your son will realise very soon how right you were. X

coffeestrongblacknosugar · 14/04/2024 17:59

popped on hoping for an update from @PurpleLampShades

I am thinking of you, hope you are doing well and I really hope your son is too.

Chouquettes · 15/04/2024 21:41

Just joining other posters to say I’m thinking of you and your son Purplelampshades

Dancingonaslice · 18/04/2024 15:24

Also still here and thinking of you purple