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Don't want my mother in law to come back to stay with us

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ZeeB68 · 01/11/2023 09:05

Hi, so I've just given birth to my 3rd baby 2 weeks ago. My mother in law lives abroad and came over for the birth of the baby. Including my husband she has 3 children and 5 grandchildren before who she has never been able to see as babies or their births due to not being able to get a visa. My husband really wanted because of this that if this time his mum got a visa he wanted me to take his mum with me in the delivery room for the birth of our baby. She came here a month ago, I'm very independent and like my own space,my first two children are 8 and 6 so in full time school now,for the last 2 weeks of my pregnancy she wouldn't let me go out alone,not even to pick the kids up she would just bring herself along on school pick up, my appointments, a couple of times I just wanted to go shopping alone and she wouldn't let me go without her. She's here till January, even in the final 2 weeks of my pregnancy I didn't get to rest, she did nothing to help around the house, the bedsheets in her room were on for 2 weeks at that point so I put clean ones on the end of the bed to try and get her to take the hint but she waited until I just changed them myself. On 18th October I went into labour,gave birth to my daughter, I had a huge bleed as soon as she came out plus 2nd degree tear and plus other lacerations which needed stitching too. I have been hoping yo breastfeed as I couldn't breast feed my first two due to the same issue of loosing a lot of blood after delivery and milk not coming in properly. After they sorted me out and I finally got to see my baby, I started breast feeding her, she was on for 20 minutes and my mother in law then just said " that's enough" and took my baby off my breast and out of my arms and gave her a bottle, the midwife who was in the room later spoke to me about this as she saw and told me I shouldn't be taking baby off the breast I should let her come off herself. I let it go because my mother in law has never seen one of her grandchildren be born.
I came home the next day,could barely walk with a 1 say old baby and the house was a mess,I came home and went upstairs and started crying whilst trying to clean in pain, his mum just turned round and said to me " oh I'm old I can't clean" (she's 49!) This is the woman who claimed she wanted to stay here at our house during her stay here in the UK to help so I could rest and recover. I cried many times about this to my husband but he always takes his mums side. Since then things have just got worse, the comments my mother in law has been making,
Such as , " stop picking the baby up she will get used to your smell" ( which hurt as she is my baby! She is supposed to be used to my smell) she has told me " your milk isn't enough for her so feed her a bottle before breast feeding her"
She's also given me dirty looks every time baby is hungry and she asks make her a bottle and I say no I want to breastfeed her and she gives me a dirty look and says ok.
She's called me " very fat" from the legs down on numerous occasions since I have given birth even though I am back down to my pre pregnancy weight 2 weeks after birth.
I took baby to school last wednsday after my older kids kept asking me to bring their new baby sister to school, she of course said she was coming even though I told my husband to tell her I wanted to go alone ( she doesn't speak great English) she won't let me bath baby,she takes her downstairs when my older 2 kids are at school and I just want to rest in bed with baby. She keeps putting pressure on me to bottle feed her and only give her my " breast milk at night" which I've explained will not help my already low supply. She says I can't go out until the baby is older and forces me to leave baby at home with her and pick kids up.
She ( forcefully) went to stay at my sister in law's house the last 5 days,and she has told my husband she is coming back on Friday because she apparently " can't stay away longer she needs to come back " my husband said those where the words.i started crying and begged him to just tell her to stay at his sister's longer because I can't cope with her,she takes over,she doesn't advise she tells me what to do and my husband just lets her say and do whatever she wants to me and sides with her. I don't know what to do honestly,I don't want an argument with my husband as I should be enjoying my last baby as she is our last one. I don't want to cause problems but I don't want her coming back here,I've enjoyed the last 5 days at home with my 3 kids,I've managed,cooked,cleaned took the kids out everything on my own and managed just fine ( as I knew I would this is my 3rd not 1st) it's ruined my last few days with my kids as well at the though of her coming back.
Aibu ? I really can't cope and she's making me I'll,I don't know what the best way to go about this is? As I know if I say something to my husband it will all kick off but at the same time I know I can't go on like this.

OP posts:
TakeMe2Insanity · 02/11/2023 14:02

As everyone is saying you have two choices: either they go or you and children go. This isn’t right on any level.

Either way you need to find the strength within yourself and just do it.

paddyclampofthethirdkind · 02/11/2023 14:09

What a hideous woman! Your husband is every bit as bad!

I still can’t get past the bit where she called your DD lazy - what a cow!

Surely2023IsTheYearForMyRainbowBaby · 02/11/2023 14:16

ZeeB68 · 01/11/2023 11:15

@readingmakesmehappy
That's the point my husband won't let my mum stay, she has been asking too as she's only seen the new baby twice, the first time for a couple of hours at the hospital on the day she was born and the 2nd time last Saturday again Only for a couple of hours. She keeps asking when she can stay over to spend time with the kids and new baby but every time I ask my husband about her staying he says no.

Don't ask him for his permission if your Mam can come and stay. Tell him she is coming to stay and if he doesn't like it he can piss off elsewhere with his Mam.

Pumpkinpie1 · 02/11/2023 14:16

OP you deserve better
Talk to your midwife/GP
Please take your baby (kids if that will help you leave) and go to your mums
Shes the only one in this rabble who has your best interest at heart
“cultural “ is not an excuse for abuse

I can’t see a happy future with a H who thinks this abuse is acceptable.How on earth will he treat your DD as she gets older? Will her English brain need quashing ?

Shelby2010 · 02/11/2023 14:32

Talk to your health visitor. Your low milk supply isn’t going to be helped by the stress of MIL bullying you.

MsAdoraBelleDearheartVonLipwig · 02/11/2023 14:46

Why does their culture take precedence over yours? Tell him you and your English brain are leaving and when he has got his Pakistani brain around it he is welcome to apologise. Utter fucking nonsense that his mother gets to come to your home and dictate her cultural nonsense to you. She’s not in Pakistan now!

BananaHamster · 02/11/2023 14:47

@ZeeB68 invite your mum over tell her she can stay, get her over before MIL comes back and then text her "my mum has come to stay to spend time with me & the kids, I'm sure you don't mind spending time at your daughters as there's no room."
Sod what your husband says, as for "English brain" what a racist piece of sh*t.

LittleMissUnreasonable · 02/11/2023 15:42

I'd leave your horrible, racist husband to cuddle up in bed with his mummy, and go to your mum's with the kids

readingmakesmehappy · 02/11/2023 16:00

So not only is your husband a shit, he's a racist shit. OP please look after yourself and your children first xoxo

ZeeB68 · 02/11/2023 17:49

Yes I have told him my mum is going to come next week to stay for a few days, just told him and didn't give him the option to even say no. I know I shouldnt have to ask. My mum has said she will take me and baby out for a shopping day next week when she comes so I can get out the house and have a break.

Things for worse today and I'm expecting things to just kick off soon if I'm honest because I can't tolerate it anymore.
Got invited to a relatives house,went to my sister in law's house first to meet them their so I could follow behind my sister in law in the car to the relatives house.
As soon as I walked in, no hi, no how are you, no nothing my mother in law just said give me the baby and snatched the car seat off me.
When I sat down she then went on to look at my sister in law and repeatedly say " what is she wearing , why is she wearing that" ( I am wearing shalwar kameez as I always do,but I didn't wear anything fancy its a simple shalwar kameez,I've just had a baby 2 weeks ago, my chest has grown and my clothes don't fit properly!) My sister in law then went on to ask me " why didn't you wear something fancy" I said " nothing fits my chest ive only just had a baby" she said ok. Mother in law then went on to keep looking at my sister in law as if I wasn't sat in the room and kept saying over and over " why is she wearing that why has she come dressed like that" I was about to burst into tears and was ready to get my kids and leave. I text my husband saying I wouldn't be accepting any of these comments anymore and he texted back saying " just take a deep breath" I told him no and if he thinks it's acceptable for me as his wife to be treated like this then I know my place.
If he wants to leave me then so be it,but I'm not going to take this anymore. I'm a human being with feelings, I'm not here to be made to feel like I look horrible about what I'm wearing when I've just had a baby.
I'm wearing decent clothes,I've put make up on,nice shoes, even though I'm sleep deprived and just wanted to be in bed. I'm so done with them at this point.

OP posts:
Daffyyellow · 02/11/2023 18:12

I think you need to be direct with MIL. “I am in the room, you can talk to me . . .” Then add in what you said above about being dressed with makeup etc

Don’t let her brow beat you. No need to keep the peace, she’s a bitch and you’re letting her get away with it.

PaminaMozart · 02/11/2023 19:15

I agree - you should speak up. Don't let them treat you like dirt.

If he wants to leave me then so be it,but I'm not going to take this anymore.

Can you be proactive and prepare for the likely end of your marriage. What's your financial situation - what needs to happen for you to free yourself?

2jacqi · 02/11/2023 20:22

@ZeeB68 "As soon as I walked in, no hi, no how are you, no nothing my mother in law just said give me the baby and snatched the car seat off me." so did you take the baby and the baby seat and just leave after her insulting you????? why did you even go if your husband was not there????

2jacqi · 02/11/2023 20:31

@ZeeB68 i think I am correct in thinking that your MIL has invited a whole crowd of people to your house on saturday, am I???? collect the kids from school on friday and go to your mums, let her and your hubby do all the cooking and cleaning on their own! just come back late on sunday for kids bath and bed before school monday. do not answer your phone to them when they phone, because they will phone you!!

Tiredbehyondbelief · 02/11/2023 20:45

I am so pleased to hear you mother is coming over. As for ending your marriage, I don't think things are that easy for a married woman with kids. If you had agreed to have a 3rd child with your husband your marriage can't be all bad. Your MIL is unfortunately ruining it for you. She is entitled to her own opinion about your choice of clothes, parenting etc. I just hope she stays with your relatives. Your husband is either the biggest dick or cannot stand up to his mum for cultural reasons, it's difficult to tell. I think you need to put your foot down with your husband about his mum staying with relatives before you end up shouting at her.

Ibravedaflood · 02/11/2023 22:15

You take that baby to do the school run if you have to manhandle it off mil...

Fupoffyagrasshole · 03/11/2023 14:30

what was your marriage like before your MIL came to visit? surely not terrible if you decided to have a 3rd child??

was he helpful with your other kids when they were babies ?? house work?? was he at those births - did he take any time off when they were small?

SapphOhNo · 03/11/2023 14:52

I implore you OP. Leave this man. Make preparations and get out.

You have a DH problem.

PennyNotWise · 03/11/2023 15:19

God this sounds awful, my idea of hell! You poor thing, I would definitely leave! I know you don’t want to rock the boat but your kids won’t be happy if you’re not happy, and the other adults clearly don’t care for them. I really hope you can escape and go to your mums. They are horrible bullies xx

Mumofoneandone · 03/11/2023 16:05

Maybe get some medical imput (see GP) particularly if she is interfering with your attempts to breastfeed.
IMO this is emotional abuse and can not continue.
MIL has got to leave the house - either staying with other relatives or local accommodation and just visiting. Or change plane tickets and send her home!
Really pleased your Mum is coming to stay.
Is there any way you and children could stay with your Mum. Not ideal with schooling but just explain the situation.........
Need to focus on your needs and children's.
Stay strong

PinkArt · 03/11/2023 16:30

You need to get the fuck away from these awful people. Yes your MIL is clearly a revolting person but no more than your husband, who should have your back here but instead doesn't sound like he likes, let alone loves, you.
When your mum gets there, tell her all of this. What is being said to you, how your husband is controlling, how they've beaten you down to the point where when your MIL snatches your baby you don't fight back. Let her help you make a plan to end things. See if she can speak up for you when you don't feel able.
And this weekend, just do whatever you need to to get through it before help arrives. Take the kids out to the park, take them to visit a friend, anything to stop you being around those dreadful people for a second longer than you need to. If MIL has invited a bunch of other awful people over, go to your room or the kids room for the evening with a load of snacks and stay there.
It is absolutely scummy behaviour to treat anyone like this, but especially someone who gave birth weeks ago and is still physically healing.

ZeeB68 · 03/11/2023 18:07

Thank you everyone for your replies.
Yes my mum knows everything that's been going on I've told her everything.

I confronted my husband today after his mum got in their first and tried to cover her tracks and make me out to be the bad one so I brought everything up to him.

Mil called my husband today,she asked him if I had a problem with her because yesterday when the clothes incident went down when I went to my sil in house, she told my husband she had her packed bags down stairs and she showed me her bags and told me she was coming home with me yesterday,but that apparently I ignored what she said and left her there at the relatives house without saying anything.
I asked my husband if he was calling me a liar, because she never showed me any packed bags and she never told me she was coming home with me yesterday,as far as I was concerned she was coming home on Friday so today. That's what I was told by my husband and mil never showed me any bags or said anything. My husband shouted at me and said this is what she's said, I asked him if he was calling me a liar because i told him it wasn't the truth. Yes I left early from the relatives house because I was tired,plus baby was getting unsettled. She kept saying she wanted to stay longer so my husband told me to drive home if I wanted to with baby and Dd and that he would stay their another couple of hours My husband stayed their at the relatives for another couple of hours so if it was true she had her bags packed and wanted to come she could have come home with him.
But she's know got in there first and made me out to be the horrible one, she said I clearly don't " need " her. Whatever that means.

I then told my husband everything and as expected he just ended up swearing at me,calling me English brain, telling me he would just tell his mum not to stay at our house because of my " English brain" and he just kept swearing at me.

The worst part about it is, I told him the comment his mum made when I was 1 week postpartum, she kept saying my legs were fat, saying she was so confused how I could be so slim from the top but fat from the hips down, saying I looked fat in my pyjamas.
When I told my husband about these comments he said " well it's true,your legs are fat so what has she said wrong,it's the truth"
I was just shocked. If I said that to his mum or sister I'd be divorced and out as soon as I said anything like it, but because it's his mum she is allowed to say it because it's " the truth"
My husband knows I have suffered with anorexia in the past too.
For reference I'm not even big ( even if I was it's non of her business and shouldn't be mentioned! She also knows I've struggled with eating disorder in the past) , I'm just pear shaped so naturally my thighs and hips are bigger and she just can't seem to understand the concepts of different body shapes.

I told my husband today from now on I was going to do what I want,raise my kids how I want and I won't tolerate any comments like this and if he wants to leave me then so be it.
I now realise how abusive it is and horrible to keep calling someone " English brain" for being hurt by someone's behaviour and comments.i can't understand why I'm the one always in the wrong.

OP posts:
billy1966 · 03/11/2023 18:17

OP, for as long as you will tolerate being abused they will abuse you.

These are vile people.

I hope you find the strength to leave for your childrens sake and yours.

PaminaMozart · 03/11/2023 18:27

I told my husband today from now on I w tolerating as going to do what I want,raise my kids how I want and I won't tolerate any comments like this and if he wants to leave me then so be it.
I now realise how abusive it is and horrible to keep calling someone " English brain" for being hurt by someone's behaviour and comments.i can't understand why I'm the one always in the wrong.

I feel so sorry for you - your situation is intolerable and heartbreaking 💐

Practically, though, a few thoughts occurred to me as I read your post:

How realistic do you think it is to do what you want from now on and raise your kids how you want? And not tolerating comments like 'English brain'? I think you are setting yourself up for open warfare because HE won't tolerate you standing up for yourself.

Of course you cannot understand why YOU are always in the wrong. Why would you even want to try - you know you are right and he is abusing you.

Lastly, why the passivity of waiting for him to leave if he wants to? What needs to happen for you to take your children and move in with your mum, and file for divorce? It's like you are either waiting for permission to leave him (from whom?), or you do not want the responsibility of being the one who pulls the plug on this abusive marriage.

NB: Do you have access to all financial documentation - bank/investment statements, tax returns, mortgage, pensions... Get this together and copied before you do anything. And maybe post in the Divorce forum for advice.

Another thought: PPs raised the possibility of him abducting the children to his home country, so ensure that their passports are in a safe place, away from home. You may also want to alert UK Borders of the risk, so he would hopefully be stopped from taking them.

IncompleteSenten · 03/11/2023 18:28

Will you be safe? Do you think that he will become physically abusive if you begin to stand up to him?

I know it's not easy or quick to leave but I hope you can begin the process of leaving as safely as possible.

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