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To hate spending Christmas with my DIL

611 replies

NanaZoZo · 22/10/2023 09:38

I have 2 DC and one DSD, DS married, lives down south, has a 2 year old. DD and DSD live in Australia.
DS and DIL have taken over the hosting of Christmas. My DCs dad and I split when they were tiny (1 and 4) so for 25 years Christmas was them spending Christmas Eve and morning with their dad and coming to us after midday for dinner and the evening. This worked great as I’m not a massively festive person. Now we swap year as to who goes down for Christmas.
My DIL is lovely, we get on great, however she’s nothing like me. She didn’t have a great childhood and has no relationship with her parents, so now she places a high importance on Christmas for her DD and I think DS has indulged in it too.
Here is the issue - I hate it. It’s not necessarily over the top, it’s traditional. She likes everyone to dress up nicely, they buy expensive food (think Harrods and Fortnum and Mason). Luckily they keep the decor classy but they spent thousands on it including expensive Christmas only tableware. It’s all a bit much for me. I’d rather we stayed in PJs till noon, then threw on Christmas jumpers and had a nice roast. The day is quite rigid in her mind, it has to be Chinese on Christmas Eve even if we don’t fancy it, dinner is at 2 no negotiations on that either, she spends about an hour playing us Christmas songs on the piano and we all have to go a walk after dinner even if you just want to nap!!
Now like I say she’s lovely and it comes from a good place (she just wants DGD to have positive Christmas memories and tradition). But I really hate it, we had 2021 (when they had a 4 month old and still put on this grand Christmas) so it’s back to us this year, and I just can’t bring myself to look forward to it.
I’m half tempted to say we will come down on Boxing Day and spend the day lazily with DH and the dog. But I do want to see DGD on Christmas and I know she sill probably be more engaged this year which will make for fun. It would also be difficult to explain why we weren’t coming down as there is nothing keeping us up here. DH also thinks it’s just worse this year as last year we went to Australia for Christmas, and it was a busy one too (DSD has 3 kids to the DGC were ruling the day) so we haven’t had a chill at home Christmas since Covid.
WIBU to say we aren’t going down until Boxing Day, knowing it will probably hurt DIL, or should I suck it up, get in the festive spirit, go along with it all so we are part of DGD happy Christmas?

OP posts:
SwingTheMonkey · 22/10/2023 19:31

PrinceHaz · 22/10/2023 17:23

Whilst people are saying the asap should suck it up for the sake of one Christmas Day, it is also the OP’s Christmas Day and she should be free to spend it as she wishes.

Well yes, she should.

But choosing to spend Christmas away from a grandchild (who she only sees at Christmas once every 2 years) because her daughter in law uses fancy crockery and likes to go for a walk after lunch, is beyond odd.

HollyJollyRobin · 22/10/2023 19:34

I completely understand that your DILs Christmas day isn't for you...but if she didn't have the best childhood she's 100% going to make sure her daughter doesn't experience the same. You can lounge around in your PJs on any other day of the year...enjoy Christmas day with your family as much as you can...choose to enjoy it rather than go there dreading it - mind over matter!!

ValuableLimeLesson · 22/10/2023 19:34

TheKeatingFive · 22/10/2023 19:23

Yep. Whose crimes amount to “too much food”, “nice chocolate”, “tasteful decorations”, “Chinese takeaway”, “walking”, “Christmas carols”, “clothes”, “has money”, and “London”. OP’s dislike comes through loud and clear.

When you put it like that 😂

This is it!

'That BITCH - making me get dressed and eat a variety of delicious foods and enjoy festive activities for a whole hour. What a DICK.'

cccarol · 22/10/2023 19:45

sounds like a great xmas to me why don’t you just enjoy it and think to yourself how lucky you are to have a daughter in law like this she could be the opposite lazy and not want to do anything she sounds lovely xx

Cas112 · 22/10/2023 19:47

Aww she's trying

TammyJones · 22/10/2023 19:55

Paltrypam · 22/10/2023 09:46

And aside from the hour of singing - sounds a perfectly pleasant day

This is what I was thinking.
Sounds brilliant
And dgd will be so excited

Gymnopedie · 22/10/2023 20:04

cccarol · 22/10/2023 19:45

sounds like a great xmas to me why don’t you just enjoy it and think to yourself how lucky you are to have a daughter in law like this she could be the opposite lazy and not want to do anything she sounds lovely xx

Or alternatively a DIL posts on here that she goes to her ILs every other year. She has to eat Chinese on Christmas Eve and on Christmas day listen to FIL playing the piano and singing carols for an hour. She's expected to be all dressed up and she'll be guilted into going for a walk after Christmas dinner regardless of weather. But she should suck it up because MIL is very rigid and that's how she likes to do things and it means the DCs get to see their grandparents.

Very few posters would tell her it sounds lovely and she's ungrateful. At the very least there'd be lots of suggestions for how she could get out of the walk. A lot of people would say that they'd hate that too, so tell them you've brought a book and you're ging to curl up and read it. If MIL is disappointed, tough. etc...

Maybe if she wants to see the DGCs OP does have to go along with it. But the MIL/DIL double standards are alive and kicking on this thread.

MargotBamborough · 22/10/2023 20:09

@Gymnopedie But the OP is perfectly capable of using her words and saying, "I need a moment of peace and quiet, I'm just going to go and read my book instead of singing carols/have a nap instead of going for a walk, you have a lovely time though."

She doesn't need to rubbish the whole thing.

Gymnopedie · 22/10/2023 20:16

MargotBamborough · 22/10/2023 20:09

@Gymnopedie But the OP is perfectly capable of using her words and saying, "I need a moment of peace and quiet, I'm just going to go and read my book instead of singing carols/have a nap instead of going for a walk, you have a lovely time though."

She doesn't need to rubbish the whole thing.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm questioning the PPs who are telling her to suck it up and that she's ungrateful.

TammyJones · 22/10/2023 20:19

@toadasoda

Paltrypam
@toadasoda could you link to that thread pls?

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4913282-its-beginning-to-look-a-lot-like-the-most-stressful-time-of-the-year

^^^^^
This is completely different
In this thread the op is forced to host and is doing everything
Where as in this thread op has everything done for her.
One is hell , the other heaven.

MargotBamborough · 22/10/2023 20:24

Gymnopedie · 22/10/2023 20:16

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm questioning the PPs who are telling her to suck it up and that she's ungrateful.

Well I think she is, a bit.

If carols and walks aren't your thing then fair enough and you shouldn't be forced to participate, but complaining about Hotel Chocolat chocolates and expensive tableware is just mean.

A lot of MILs on Mumsnet complain about being shut out by their DILs. This one is hosting one of her husband's divorced parents each year and going to a lot of effort to make it special, even if her idea of special doesn't appeal to her MIL.

I think a lot of MILs who are divorced from their children's father would be delighted to get every other Christmas with their grandchild. It just all seems quite Scrooge-like.

Grendalsmum · 22/10/2023 20:31

I rather fancy a nice, posh, formal Christmas as opposed to the chaotic hot mess our huge family gatherings devolve into nowdays ...
The singing round the piano reminds me of that lovely bit in the Ghosts Christmas special!
I'll go - you can stay at home and skank about in your 'jamas.

EtiennePalmiere · 22/10/2023 20:41

It sounds lovely but you should be allowed to bow out of the walk if you like

JaneGainsborough · 22/10/2023 21:20

MargotBamborough · 22/10/2023 20:09

@Gymnopedie But the OP is perfectly capable of using her words and saying, "I need a moment of peace and quiet, I'm just going to go and read my book instead of singing carols/have a nap instead of going for a walk, you have a lovely time though."

She doesn't need to rubbish the whole thing.

Exactly, the OP is being very passive aggressive. Also, the way she talks about her DIL really sticks in my craw, she seems to actually dislike her, for all that she describes her as 'lovely'.

I also have to say that the OPs idea of a good Christmas is not mine. I love rushing around at Christmas, I usually decorate the house on the 23rd (we keep the 12 Days of Christmas) and have a fish based meal on Christmas Eve. Christmas Day we have a lovely pastry breakfast, then a walk, then get dressed up for a three course meal. Slobbing around in front of the TV with Quality Street? No thanks.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 22/10/2023 21:30

I think it’s ok for one day.

I might say to her “look at our age we need a nap after such a big meal so hope you don’t mind if we sit out the walk”.

I do think 2 pm is a bit early for Christmas lunch but I’m sure I could manage 😂

Frasers · 22/10/2023 21:40

NanaZoZo · 22/10/2023 17:54

One thing I’ll give DIL is she’s not social media focused. I got instagram to follow my DDs travels last year and DIL hasn’t posted since about 2019. DS posts somethings but never overkill it’s definitely not about social media for them.

Just one thing op.? That’s all you can manage>And picking on the one of the very few posts supporting you to respond to?.

your dil Xmas isn’t a reflection on you. She’s not doing it to shame you. Your son isn’t indulging her, he loves her. He loves the traditions.

try to swallow your envy. If you can’t stay home and reflect on yourself.

mydogisthebest · 22/10/2023 21:50

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 22/10/2023 21:30

I think it’s ok for one day.

I might say to her “look at our age we need a nap after such a big meal so hope you don’t mind if we sit out the walk”.

I do think 2 pm is a bit early for Christmas lunch but I’m sure I could manage 😂

Don't know how old OP is but why would she need a nap after the meal? I am 70 and I don't need a nap and my parents never did until they were about 85.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 22/10/2023 22:17

mydogisthebest · 22/10/2023 15:04

If you want to slob around in pj's all day then just stay home. What would you do on Christmas Day? Would you cook a Christmas dinner? Just laze around and watch crap tv?

I think it would be lovely to have dinner cooked for you, lots of lovely food and drink. Christmas carols are far far nicer than watching tv.

My family all get together (20 of us) and we dress nicely. Me and DH cook the dinner (also for 2pm) and we usually go for a short walk after dinner. After the clearing up is done we all sit and chat and maybe play some games. The tv never ever goes on. Never watched tv on Christmas Day in my 69 years. Even in 2020 when me and DH were alone for Christmas we made an effort of dressing nicely, nice food and NO tv

What do you want, a bun?

Vloclo · 22/10/2023 22:17

mydogisthebest · 22/10/2023 21:50

Don't know how old OP is but why would she need a nap after the meal? I am 70 and I don't need a nap and my parents never did until they were about 85.

I didn't think after dinner naps were an age related thing! My family always napped after Christmas dinner so I've been doing it as long as I can remember. My husband does as well and has from his late teens.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 22/10/2023 22:25

MargotBamborough · 22/10/2023 15:43

Just read your posts, OP. I have no advice to offer because I would love your DIL's Christmas. I can't imagine getting annoyed about Hotel Chocolat chocolates and carols on Christmas Day!

Thank goodness you told us!

MargotBamborough · 22/10/2023 22:26

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 22/10/2023 22:25

Thank goodness you told us!

Another Scrooge has entered the building.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 22/10/2023 22:28

MargotBamborough · 22/10/2023 22:26

Another Scrooge has entered the building.

Oh FFS. It can’t be that hard to work out that, on page 17 of the thread, a bewildered “But… but… this wouldn’t bother meeee” comment is fairly meaningless.

Blogswife · 22/10/2023 22:31

Wow it sounds like an amazing day & tbh you are coming across as very ungrateful . Being with your DGD will surely be worth the singing , walking and dressing up .
You could ask your DIL if she’d like a year off as it does sound like a lot of effort for her but if she’s insistent then do it - it’s only one day & then you’re off the hook for the next 2 years

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 22/10/2023 22:32

OhComeOnFFS · 22/10/2023 15:57

I always think it's the same people who never answer their front door or their phone. I wish we could have a survey on this.

Why bother when you can just enjoy judging?

BeetleDeuce · 22/10/2023 22:34

Why not offer to stay at home and wash up after dinner? I’ve done that a few times when I’ve felt a bit “peopled out” on Christmas Day. It takes hours! Warn your husband that’s your plan so he can back you up. That way you get some peace AND make yourself useful.

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