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wonder what has happened to couple who freebirthed in Carribean?

388 replies

StrangerYears · 19/10/2023 03:43

Clive and Iuliia Gurzhii were all over the news for 3 days in August, after idiotically going to give birth on a beach a long way from home.
The birth was unwitnessed and very odd circumstances.
I googled them and all I could find was a gofundme (never saw that one coming!!) - it raised GBP128 out of an ambitious target of GBP15.000.

Do you think they are still out there?

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Imamumgetmeoutofhere · 19/10/2023 06:58

I'd love to know what happened too. At the time I thought they were just muppets for wanting to do what they did but now fake pregnancy and birth to adopt a baby without going down the traditional route seems so obvious.

tpxqi · 19/10/2023 07:29

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck…….

Igloolou · 19/10/2023 07:34

I’d imagine there’s a good reason the press have dropped this, for now. At a guess, there’s a much bigger issue and children require protection. I wouldn’t be surprised if a year or so down the line there will be a further media following a court case.

Gingerkittykat · 19/10/2023 08:19

I wonder if the baby was born via surrogate so might be biologically either one of both of their biological child.

I wonder if the hospital examined her after she supposedly gave birth?

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 19/10/2023 08:33

🤔

SisterMichaelsHabit · 19/10/2023 08:36

More idiots who intentionally wanted to give birth in a stupid and dangerous place (the countryside days from a hospital in a country with poor infrastructure).
"Mystery illness for 9 months"
"Went into the forest to give birth in the shade"
Give me strength.
No thought for the baby as anything other than an Instagram prop in either of these cases.

justasking111 · 19/10/2023 08:50

Igloolou · 19/10/2023 07:34

I’d imagine there’s a good reason the press have dropped this, for now. At a guess, there’s a much bigger issue and children require protection. I wouldn’t be surprised if a year or so down the line there will be a further media following a court case.

I thought this, the courts have issued a media ban to protect the family. Family courts are known for this

NeunundneunzigHorseBallonz · 19/10/2023 09:01

Maybe they were deemed too stupid to be allowed to return

Topseyt123 · 19/10/2023 09:17

I've sometimes wondered what became of these stupid twats. Nothing on them for ages now. Pair of tools!!

TheShellBeach · 19/10/2023 09:25

Shittenshite · 19/10/2023 04:33

After a quick Google search

"Birthing person"?

Hmm
Ylvamoon · 19/10/2023 09:30

I just thought tis story was strange from the outset.
There is no way I would travel 1000's of miles to give birth and leave my other child behind....

Battytwatty · 19/10/2023 09:36

There was another one of these idiots a few years ago. I’m sure she had two children, refused any medical assistance throughout both pregnancies and gave birth with only her partner to help. Lucy summat. I think the Guardian did a piece about it. I looked her up on Instagram out of curiosity a few years ago and now she does workshops teaching women how to orgasm 🙄

SoupDragon · 19/10/2023 09:36

How can someone so slim be pregnant with a baby that size and not know? I can understand it if you're overweight and the bump is disguised. I wasn't very slim but I could see limbs when my babies stretched out inside!

AngryBirdsNoMore · 19/10/2023 09:56

“Mystery illness” - sure, and no one took a urine test. Sure sure sure sure.

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 19/10/2023 10:04

LemonTreeSkies · 19/10/2023 05:44

“Birthing person”??

Wouldn’t that be the mother?

Not just me then!

Zimunya · 19/10/2023 10:23

Maybe one of the numerous Daily Mail jounalists who lurk on here and then publsh threads as "news articles" could do some proper investgative journalism for a change, and provide an update on this case. Just a thought.

RoseAndRose · 19/10/2023 10:30

They probably stopped railing against the machine, realised they had to comply with the normal processes and sullenly did so. So DNA came through, passport was issued and they cam back quietly.

An arrest for baby trafficking, of a person who had previously put themselves into the spotlight, would have been reported on. As there has been no sign of that, I think it must have been a routine non-newsworthy outcome

Middleagedmeangirls · 19/10/2023 10:44

@SoupDragon

it can happen. I have no idea how or why but it can. Back in the 80s I was at a friends party and her flatmate was there eating, drinking and partying in very tight jeans and an equally tight t shirt. Not an ounce of fat on her and probably a size 8 (and that's an 80s size 8, not the current size 8). That was a Saturday night. On Sunday she woke at night with agonising stomach pains and my friend went to A&E with her - where she gave birth to a 7lb baby boy.

I often think of this story but it's only just dawned on me that said baby is now a man in his 40s!

SwingTheMonkey · 19/10/2023 10:48

RoseAndRose · 19/10/2023 10:30

They probably stopped railing against the machine, realised they had to comply with the normal processes and sullenly did so. So DNA came through, passport was issued and they cam back quietly.

An arrest for baby trafficking, of a person who had previously put themselves into the spotlight, would have been reported on. As there has been no sign of that, I think it must have been a routine non-newsworthy outcome

I doubt it, press coverage would have been out of their control. Someone would have followed up on such a ridiculous story. Unless they were unable to follow up due to an ongoing child protection case…

Shittenshite · 19/10/2023 14:20

TheShellBeach · 19/10/2023 09:25

"Birthing person"?

Hmm

I didn't write that, so don't shoot the messenger!

FWIW I can't stand this "birthing person / chestfeeding" madness and refuse point blank to get on the merry-go-round to pander to the tiniest fraction of society!

TheShellBeach · 19/10/2023 14:57

Shittenshite · 19/10/2023 14:20

I didn't write that, so don't shoot the messenger!

FWIW I can't stand this "birthing person / chestfeeding" madness and refuse point blank to get on the merry-go-round to pander to the tiniest fraction of society!

My apologies.
I wasn't blaming you.

I was just Hmm at the use of the expression "birthing person" and I see you're not on board with it either.

Sorry if you thought I was having a go at you.

Mistletoewench · 20/10/2023 20:43

justasking111 · 19/10/2023 08:50

I thought this, the courts have issued a media ban to protect the family. Family courts are known for this

This, family court involvement

LylaLee · 20/10/2023 20:54

SoupDragon · 19/10/2023 09:36

How can someone so slim be pregnant with a baby that size and not know? I can understand it if you're overweight and the bump is disguised. I wasn't very slim but I could see limbs when my babies stretched out inside!

There's a very specific set of circumstances:

Usually a muscular/athletic person, with a long torso, placenta in a weird position, sometimes carrying high, almost in the ribcage, organs and guts pushed out of the way. The person already has a history of irregular/no periods (e.g. certain types of contraception), or spotting is mistaken for a period.

There are 9 billion of us. A few hundred times a year this happens. Not outside the realms of possibility.