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To deeply resent DP? I think I'm traumatised

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nle · 17/10/2023 10:45

I posted about this at the time so will try and keep it brief.

DP and I have been on and off for 4.5 years.

Last year, we split but had started seeing each other again, dates, sleeping together, basically acting like normal. I then became pregnant on the pill.

The day I found out he came over and told me he wanted nothing to do with me or the baby and was "abandoning" us. His family, whom I was very close to blocked me on all social media (his mum, dad and sister). His mum said "but X doesn't want a baby". Neither did I!

He then contacted me three weeks later asking what decision I had made, I refused to tell him. He said I was wrong for this and basically made me out to be the villain.

He said that he and his family had actually wanted to be involved all along, but they were trying to manipulate me into an abortion by thinking I was going to have to raise the baby alone.

I ended up having a miscarriage and didn't tell him until later.

I eventually told him I had miscarried, over the phone. He called me names, said that he hated the thought of being tied to me forever, he accused me of sleeping with someone (I hadn't), he said there was no excuse for me to have withheld information about the pregnancy from him.

He also said he didn't want me around our friends anymore (they were his friends first). He showed people the messages of me breaking down during the height of it all. Totally humiliated me and essentially made me out to be crazy.

I attempted suicide as a result of this time, he knows this.

We are now back together. We had no contact for six months. Our families don't know.

The only time he has said sorry was when I had asked for an apology and it was a forced "sorry!" Like a disgruntled child.

He justifies what he did by saying he had a "tough choice" to make and that the way he went about things was his only option. That he knew a baby would be bad for both of us, so he did this to help us and his family.

He said "I still think you were going to keep that baby", he actually has no idea whether I was or wasn't.

This isn't the only time he's been a dick. I won't bore you with the rest of the stories.

The way he treats me has vastly improved, we have a really, really great time together. Rarely argue or have disagreements.

I just can't move on from it, I resent him and when I think about the situation and what I went through, I feel sick to my stomach.

Has anyone every moved on by something so major? I know this is probably just a big thing to me, but I can change the effect it had.

If it weren't for these big fuck ups he pulls off, he could've been the one.

Day to day, I love everything about him.

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SafferUpNorth · 17/10/2023 14:52

Helloooooooooooooo OP!
Get a grip. Get rid of this man.

nle · 17/10/2023 14:52

cherryscola · 17/10/2023 12:18

OP I will probably be jumped on for this but it's how I have personally read this situation.

You say you fell pregnant on the pill - so did I when I was younger. I fell pregnant on it because I stopped taking it properly, fucked about with it, actually hoping I would fall pregnant because my boyfriend had broken up with me but we continued to sleep together. My misguided belief that he would have to stay with me if I fell pregnant.

Difference being I was 16.

Same with a suicide attempt - was this in the hope it would keep him in the relationship?

I don't mean to sound harsh, I really don't.

But you have a child. Make HIM the centre of your world, not this shitty bloke.

There are many good people out there. All the while you are wasting your time with this one you are missing the oppurtunity to meet them.

Thank you for taking the time to post, you don’t sound harsh.

I really didn’t want a baby, I more than likely would have had a termination if I didn’t miscarry. I’d say I’m pretty spot on with the pill, but not perfect use. I was beyond devastated to find out I was pregnant.

I attempted suicide because I wanted to die, I didn’t even tell him about it until a while afterwards. At this point, I hated him and wanted nothing to do with him. I don’t know what changed.

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Thebigblueballoon · 17/10/2023 14:54

Most people have a pretty good idea of whether they have met a “life partner” after four and a half years.
This thread is unanimous in their opinion of your fuckhead of a partner. But it’s in one ear and out the other, isn’t it OP?

Kellogg1 · 17/10/2023 14:55

nle · 17/10/2023 14:50

So basically you keep your kid out of his way. My God…

I wouldn't introduce my son to any man I wasn't absolutely sure I wanted to be my life partner?

That's the only reason.

The very fact you are posting on here about your resentment towards your DP is the biggest indicator that he is not the life partner you are telling yourself he could be. You are clearly scared of being alone and have taken back a bully who also got everybody in your life to bully you too. Why?

In the kindest way possible OP, get a grip and move on. Your son is not benefitting from this and neither are you.

DangerFrog · 17/10/2023 14:56

nle · 17/10/2023 10:54

I am ashamed of it.

I have a long history of depression/postnatal depression.

A year prior I was the victim of a violent crime.

It all got on top of me.

You have no reason to feel ashamed. You've been through a lot and you've survived. You have been so strong to come through all that.

Now you deserve more. He doesn't make you happy. He's treated you badly. You need to break things off with him before he drags you down again.

Just remember: you are strong enough and you deserve better than him.

Rachie1973 · 17/10/2023 14:57

4.5 years? What a waste of time. Lose him. Learn how to be an adult without this extra child dragging you back.

widowtwankywashroom · 17/10/2023 15:01

Raise your bloody standards

Cinai · 17/10/2023 15:04

I haven’t read the whole thread, but it looks like he’s only a man for the good times. You need a partner who is there for you when things get tough. Your unexpected pregnancy showed you that you can’t rely on him to be there when you need him to. You can’t move past this because deep down you know that he’s not the one for you. As difficult as it might be, I would leave him if I were you, and look for someone that threats you well no matter what.

Esmereldapawpatrol · 17/10/2023 15:07

I couldn't read past "we are now back together"

Please break this off, he sounds awful and made you suicidal, why would you ever take him back? I would rather be on my own in that situation.

TeenLifeMum · 17/10/2023 15:09

He doesn’t love you. Love doesn’t look like this. Please get help to build your confidence as you are worth so much more.

Pinkypie86 · 17/10/2023 15:12

Massive mistake. Both of you need to move on. Why do relationships need to be so toxic & dramatic?
Just let go. He's a dick but, you don't sound like you're completely blameless either.

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Girliefriendlikespuppies · 17/10/2023 15:14

Why is not raising your son enough for you? Why do you need this awful man?

Focus on your child and yourself, I raised my dd on my own, she's 17 now! You don't need any man especially one that's so horrible.

Can you get some counselling?

Hibiscrubbed · 17/10/2023 15:14

My good god why the fuck are you with this AWFUL man? What has happened to you to make your self-respect so low? Jesus Christ, OP. Please, please leave. Leave now. He’s a total and utter cunt.

K1nga23 · 17/10/2023 15:18

nle · 17/10/2023 14:45

Why?

You are choosing to continue to be in this catastrophic on off relationship, so I believe you are partially to be blame here as well. Your DS does not have this choice, he needs his mother. This man doesn’t need you, so why are you throwing everything away for him?

You say that he manipulated you to have an abortion, yet also say that you hadn’t wanted the pregnancy yourself. What is it? You don’t need to justify anything to us but at least be honest to yourself.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 17/10/2023 15:20

He isn't miserable.
He goes on about how much he loves me, loves spending time with me, wants a future, the connection is so special etc.
He literally never argues about me or anything I've done. He's happy as Larry in the relationship.

OP. You are miserable. His words don't match his actions at all.
He's put you through so much pain you wanted to commit suicide. He shows no interest in your child. He got everyone to gang up on you to pressurise you into having a termination. You say that he still doesn't know how you feel. He published your texts to make you look unhinged and gain sympathy for himself.

He's happy and you never argue - until something major comes along like an unexpected pregnancy.

Please get some RL help to come to terms with what you've been through and to help you plan what you want for your life and your child in the future.

user1471556818 · 17/10/2023 15:21

Why oh why have you got back with this idiot .You deserve so much better I hope you find the strength to get some help

ShinyBandana · 17/10/2023 15:28

Omg. What’s wrong with you

Sumtimesiamgreen · 17/10/2023 15:29

You need counseling and healthy relationship advice, you are sleeping with the enemy and he will make you miserable.

Fionaville · 17/10/2023 15:29

Oh no. I couldn't believe after all that, you got back with him!
He is not the one. Absolutely not. Not loving partner would act like that to you. What if you make a mistake in the future? With money? Or anything? Loving partners don't treat their other half so badly. They just don't!
You've got low self esteem obviously. For some deep rooted reason, you think he's the best you can do. That's not true. Know your worth. Underneath this love he's giving you now, this man is nasty piece of work. Get away!

Cakeorchocolate · 17/10/2023 15:30

The relationship doesn't sound anything like love. It sounds entirely unhealthy. Get the hell out of it, get comfortable being alone and being ok being you and then maybe you'll find actual love one day with somebody worth your time, effort and emotion.
this guy isn't it though.

Passepartoute · 17/10/2023 15:33

For goodness sake, this man and his family drove you to attempt suicide. He accused you of getting pregnant with someone else. You've known him 4.5 years and you still don't trust him around your son.

Please, please, for your own sake and your son's sake, get out. You don't need to be with any man, but you really need NOT to be with this man.

LemonLight · 17/10/2023 15:58

OP what do you want from life? Because it sounds like this guy and his loony family are a one way ticket to a miserable drama filled life. No idea why you would chose that.

nle · 17/10/2023 17:20

Jewelspun · 17/10/2023 12:58

'I often feel I won't get better than him'!

A steaming pile of dog shit would be better than him.

You deserve so much better.

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In case you won't click on the link -

Why Do Good Women Stay With Bad Men?
Four women explain why they stayed in toxic relationships..

Falling into a bad relationship is easy. The significant other is usually charming, things move fast and they might claim to love you early on (see also the Dark Triad). By the time the threats start, the fear sets in and they actively try to destroy your self-esteem, it’s too late. You’re already in – and getting out could be the hardest thing you ever do. Abusive relationships are a devastating matrix of love, coercion, devotion and annihilation of confidence.
The most common misconception is that staying in a toxic relationship is a sign of weakness when, in fact, it is, in many cases, a misuse of great strength. To find out why women stay in bad relationships, I spoke to four brave women. Before we get to their testimonies, let me say this: I put a callout on social media to speak to women who’ve been in toxic relationships for this article. The response was overwhelming, and many came from closer to me than I had expected. Emotionally and psychologically abusive relationships are horrifically common - remember that, always.

Ava, 21, has only recently extricated herself from a dangerous relationship. She had to seek legal help to keep her ex-boyfriend away from her, after a particularly violent altercation. ‘Only when I look back on the relationship, do I realize it was toxic,’ she says. ‘Because when you are in it, you’re in this bizarre and dull frame of mind where you think that this is how things are supposed to be, this is the person for you, and you should just accept that nothing is perfect. In reality, my freedom was limited. I had to answer where I was, who I was with, what I was doing.’
Ava’s ex would taunt her, call her names and undermine her self-worth at every opportunity, whether it was calling her a ‘slag’ for wearing make-up or a ‘lying cunt’ for not coming to see him. She sent him money, traveled to see him at a moment’s notice, and tolerated both his jealous ranting about other men and sleazy boasting about other women. ‘He would treat me like a disease, flaunting other girls he was texting in my face, negatively comparing me to them. My self-esteem and self-worth were non-existent.’
One night, this man grabbed Ava by the throat, throttled her, threw her on the bed and yelled about how pathetic she was and how lucky she was to have him. She ran into her room, terrified, and stayed there while he smashed everything he could in the apartment.
Afterwards, ‘he burst out crying, telling me of his anger problems, and that he only acts the way he does because he loves me so much. That was the worst thing of all. To try and confuse love with abuse.’

But that’s what abusers do, routinely. They dress their abusive behaviour up as affection and demand gratitude for the pain they put their victims through. So, why did Ava stay?
‘He was the first boy I loved,’ she says. ‘There were some great times. I wanted everyone who disapproved to be proven wrong, I wanted to have a happy ending. As time went on, my faith in that outcome turned into desperation and I clung on to the hope that he would change so I wouldn’t feel trapped anymore.’
‘When you are in a relationship with someone you care so deeply about, and they hurt you over and over again, you push it to one side because you believe that they love you, and they only did it because they were hurting too’ she explains, ‘you want so badly to heal their wounds that sometimes, you put them before yourself, even though you are allowing yourself to be repeatedly damaged. I wanted to rescue him, because I could see that he was unhappy in himself. I think in hindsight I also wanted to save myself. I believed I was worthless, and by trying to save someone else, maybe I’d love myself a bit more. If that meant going through pain and emotional abuse, I just kept telling myself that it was all a means to an end.’

Ginny, 34, found herself in a similar situation. Rather than physical intimidation, she was slowly diminished by her former partner one acerbic put-down at a time. Whether it was about her intellect or her body, her ex-boyfriend found a way to belittle her any way he could – sometimes in the privacy of their relationship, sometimes in front of friends. Throughout the 10 months they were together, he made a habit of gaslighting Ginny about one female friend in particular – one, it would turn out, he’d been sleeping with the whole time. ‘I told him that she made me a bit uncomfortable, and he started trying to paint me as a crazed, paranoid bitch who was trying to stop him from having friends,’ Ginny says. It was an intense, fast-moving relationship from the start – and that just escalated, until one day he proposed, only to dump her a week later while they were on holiday with her parents.
‘I think I always knew something was wrong, but I had such low self-esteem and was so swept away by how intensely he pursued me that I ignored it. I didn't have the confidence to argue back and I suppose I believed he must be right about me. Also I just couldn't see how anyone else would want me’ she tells me. ‘After we split up, I lost half my body weight, started running half-marathons, and made a lot of amazing friends who helped me see what I was really worth. I think people stay in bad relationships mainly because we feel like we are getting what we deserve and through the fear that we won't find anyone else.’

What Ginny’s talking about here, a complete collapse of self-worth, is what psychologist and relationship expert Samantha Carbon would call ‘a loss of self’. ‘Clients in toxic relationships start to lose themselves or forget themselves. Their happiness is no longer a priority,’ she says. ‘Unhealthy criticism can be a contributing factor to why people feel they are undervalued and worthless and this contempt can create unhealthy patterns in the relationship, which can lead to resentment and acting out. To get out, you almost have to detox yourself from the beliefs and values that you created together and remind yourself of the importance of self. Self-compassion is key to ensuring you survive the possible backlash of leaving this type of relationship.’
That’s exactly what Harriet, 29, had to find the strength to do. She is currently in therapy, trying to recover from a 4.5 year relationship riddled with infidelity, lies and manipulation. She stayed that long, partly, because she questioned her own judgment. ‘If I ever expressed concerns or doubts, he would get defensive, aggressive, or just gaslight me until I ended up being the one apologizing,’ she says. ‘I realized something was wrong when he tried to end it and I found messages between him and a female friend which made it clear he has been unfaithful and was continuing an obscene online relationship with her. I realized something was really wrong when he did similar things over and over. I got so familiar with his pathetic, sheepish face he made when he was sprung. The memory of it is searing and heartbreaking. If I didn’t love him so much, I would have been embarrassed for him.’
And that’s the other reason Harriet stayed: She loved him. ‘I still do…but, he had so destroyed my self-esteem and so convinced me that I was unlovable, unpleasantly suspicious, and clingy, that I clung to him as a source of affirmation.’

Harriet left her life with this man in tatters. I ask what the aftermath was and she says: ‘Utter emotional devastation. A near-total dismantling of my sense of worth. An odd mixture of intermittent catatonia and hysteria. A firm belief in my fundamental un-lovability.’ She had to move back in with her parents because they were all worried what she might do, living alone. She’s really only learning how to function again now.
‘I also live with an unspeakably profound sadness. I miss my best friend at the same time as I know that best friend is very possibly a sociopath. Being away from him has been freeing, for obvious reasons, but also oddly constraining. He exercised such total control over my internal emotional life that I still measure nearly every element of my life by what he would think and whether he would like it. That habit will be hard to break I suspect.’
Alice, 29, has been emotionally abused by several men, one of whom ended up leaving her in a foreign country with no explanation, another of whom prompted her to move interstate to escape his relentless, increasingly aggressive contact. She’s spent much of her adult life thinking about why women like her stay in relationships that hurt.

As a general insight, below the level of genuine fear, you stay with people because you think you understand them, and if you understand the source of their pain or rage, then it can't hurt you,’ she says. ‘Or you're willing to take some pain for the amount of help you can provide. Because we like to feel essential and useful. It feels like a form of strength; your ability to sustain discomfort, or even pain, for a greater good. It’s a form of heroism. You're Atlas.’
Alice, like me, has seen close friends go through the same thing: remarkable women sacrificing themselves to the ‘greater’ cause of a man’s happiness. Too afraid, or too good, or too sensitive, to break hearts despite the damage they do to their own. It’s excruciating to watch, and worse to know that your disapproval only makes them feel closer to their abusive partner.
‘It's a misplaced strength and loyalty, I think,’ Alice says. ‘They’re warrior virtues. Women in those relationships don't relate to the frightened, beaten wife scenario, even if they spend their whole time on eggshells, trying to soothe and help. Because they don't feel helpless - they feel like it's a difficult task. At a certain point there's a sunk cost fallacy that begins to play. Particularly for women. There’s the sense that you're no bed of roses yourself necessarily. It’s the false equivalency of flaws, like self-gaslighting.’

Each of these women went through that, and wrenched themselves free. Harriet is still working on her relationship with herself. Ginny is happily married to someone kind, with a baby on the way. Ava has moved on and swears by the saying ‘what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger’. Alice is engaged. They have generously shared their stories with clarity and strength. However, there are millions of women who are trapped in toxic relationships the world over. If we’re ever going to help them out, we have to start by understanding why so many of us stay in destructive relationships. It is, so often, much more complicated that it seems.

Thank you so much

OP posts:
Barrowgirl · 17/10/2023 17:21

You thank the one poster who pays you on the back and says there there

not one of the women in the article had a child op

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