Sister on holiday with Covid

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Spoke to sister this morning. She and her young child have tested positive for Covid after having a cough for a couple days. They are on a cruise due to disembark tomorrow.
I've told her she should tell the medical team onboard and isolate in cabin. She says I'm being ridiculous, that it's the last day so she will stay onboard on the pool deck in the fresh air. She lap says there's loads of people coughing.

I'm angry at her - she's got a flight back tomorrow - she says she will wear a mask but will enjoy the last day of the holiday.
She only tested as she had an lft in her case which I told her to pack.

Aibu for being annoyed at her?

Jesus, that was an unfortunate post to come directly after yours, @MariaVT65. Puts your selfish prickdom into perspective.

I work in a hospital. No one is required to test or isolate or wear a mask. What does that tell you?!

It tells me the NHS doesn't give a stuff about hospital acquired infections, hence why so many people catch covid, norovirus, and other infections IN hospital. Hospitals should be a place where patients are safe from infection, but they're not. Then the NHS whinges when so many patients stay in hospital longer than necessary -hardly surprising!

Gymmum82 · Yesterday 14:09

Yabu. Covid is everywhere. There are no rules to isolate anymore and barely anyone is testing.
It’s a mild cold now. We live with it

Well my dad recently died because of it. He had some other health issues, but that finished him off. My husband has just spent five solid days in bed unable to do anything and is still struggling.

For some it will be mild, for some it will be horrendous and for some it will be fatal. For some it will cause long covid - which for some will become debilitating and life changing.

A courtesy to others is to isolate and wear a mask if you can’t when you know you are ill with Covid or similar.

Letitgonowgr

Which is precisely why my dad died recently.

Well I work in crit care, just had Covid and had to test every day for 10 days. Actually 6 of us caught it and were all off sick causing a big staffing issue.
Once I was asymptomatic with no temp or 2 negative tests 24 hours apart I could return to work. So those self appointed medical experts saying there’s no testing going on are talking BS.

Not really, my uncle died from cancer as his treatment was delayed due to the focus on covid. We can’t prioritise covid above everything else.

What does it cover?
Extra accommodation?
Missed flight?
Lost earnings?
Extra kennel or cattery fees?
Extra airport parking?
Missed airport transfer?
Extra food?

I work in a hospital. No one is required to test or isolate or wear a mask. What does that tell you?!

It tells me that there has been a total breakdown in infection control and failure of duty of care. Plus a severe lack of common sense, @Letitgonowgr

Would you expect someone to risk isolating and losing their job and home? What if they had children?

I have an immune deficiency. I don’t expect the world to run around me and my needs. I wouldn’t go on a cruise either. Floating germ dish! Where do you draw the line? Do you isolate for 48 hours an after a bit of vomiting or diarrhoea? I work with someone who had a bit of an upset stomach and assumed they ate something rich. It was norovirus and I caught it full blown and ended up in hospital.

This.

it feels in line with all the many other ways Britain is undeveloping.

Even if that were true and I agree that there’s lots we don’t know about Covid it’s impossible to avoid. The only way not to get Covid is to isolate yourself and cut off social contact. Not only is that a miserable existence but it’s also bad for your health.

Most of us don’t deny that Covid can be serious for some but we’ve weighed up the impact of letting it run our lives any more than it already has and decided that it’s worth the risk. Just like we drink alcohol and eat processed meats even though quitting them would be healthier.

If drs and nurses aren’t bothering then members of the public going about their daily life aren’t going to either. They’ll also not be paid if they decide to take time off work to isolate and when most can’t afford to, they won’t.

Atleast her other sister isn't daft.

@Panaa you seem to have forgotten that we are talking about healthcare. Medical practitioners have a duty to do no harm to their patients. Treating them with an active COVID infection, without even a requirement to wear a surgical mask, let alone a proper respirator, is negligence. COVID remains a notifiable disease though you wouldn't know it given how hospitals have given up. You can't take fresh flowers to hospital but sure, come and spread COVID around, no problem!

We are already seeing in other countries hospitals being sued for failing in their duty of care to prevent COVID transmission. We will see it very soon in the UK, and that's great because finally hospitals will have some accountability.

And as I've said ad infinitum, COVID leads to more conditions, so we are just making things worse for the NHS. COVID is not like flu or other illnesses - it's far far more contagious, and active all year round, so failing to control it means the hospital system never has time to recover.

@Peterpiperspickledpepper

We’re not talking about the risk to ourselves. We’re talking about a country who’s state health service takes no action to protect vulnerable patients who have no choice to be in hospital.

It doesn't sound like covid either.

Yes Covid causes vomiting and diarrhoea especially children. Vertigo is often due to ear fluid issues which is fairly common after any upper respiratory tract infection.

@Topseyt123

It is like a cold and fairly mild in a lot of cases. Severe in some others and it is a bit random there. But for most it is mild.

That is exactly how these things work, whether you like it or not. Go and explode about that if you want to!

Well, no. It's not classed as a rhinovirus, is it? It's a novel coronavirus - distinct even from existing coronaviruses. You may experience symptoms that are similar to that of a slight cold, but that is an entirely different statement.

It’s literally carry on now unless you feel like crap. We can’t isolate forever

Good for her! Her only mistakes were 1) to pack a test and 2) to use it.

Mmm, terrible 'mistakes' to make on a CRUISE. 🙄

Again, complete shortsightedness.

The hospital system won't ever recover because covid is here to stay. They can't keep trying to control it because of the knock on effect of staff shortages etc....which makes things worse in the short, medium AND long term for the NHS.

I know you've said it ad infinitum but it's been weighed up and decided that not trying to control it is in the best interests of the NHS and the public in general.

I disagree.

What makes it all worse is the way that infections (covid and others) are allowed to run freely through hospitals because no one cares enough to take even the most basic precautions. That causes patients to become ill and causes them to spend longer in hospital, need more attention/drugs, worsen long term conditions which again mean more hospital interventions etc.

Ever since Aids and HIV, hospital staff don't care about cross infections for anything that isn't red in colour - ALL the emphasis is on blood, and they seem to have completely forgotten (or don't care) about infections that are passed on in the air, droplets or "clear" fluids.