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To not understand how Hannah Ingram-Moore can lie so unashamedly?

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TigerQueenie · 12/10/2023 16:15

So she's admitted keeping over £800k of the money raised for herself. Claims it was her fathers wish, even though it wasn't documented anywhere, that the proceeds from his book stay in the family. The foreword of the book talks of his delight to be able to raise even more money through sales of his book. She claims nobody has been mislead.

And then cried.

How is there not being a bigger deal made of it?

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eveoha · 12/10/2023 16:20

Because we accept stupidity and cupidity as the norm ☘️👍🏿

Normalsizedsalad · 12/10/2023 16:20

eveoha · 12/10/2023 16:20

Because we accept stupidity and cupidity as the norm ☘️👍🏿

Yup

0ElectronBlue0 · 12/10/2023 16:21

She’s nothing but a common thief, she should be ashamed.

JudgeJ · 12/10/2023 16:22

eveoha · 12/10/2023 16:20

Because we accept stupidity and cupidity as the norm ☘️👍🏿

I doubt that stupidity had anything to do with it, I recall at the time of Captain Tom's walk saying that the daughter looks to be relishing all the attention. Cool and calculating would be better words.

Jumperhermit · 12/10/2023 16:23

Tom came across as lovely.
It’s disgusting his family exploited him in the way they have, they absolutely loved getting their faces in the media and the money etc that came with it. I wouldn’t be surprised if she saw an opportunity and engineered the whole thing tbh

CallieTR · 12/10/2023 16:25

I can’t believe they took their children on TV with them when they would have had zero to do with any of this decision making.

everywherebear · 12/10/2023 16:26

CallieTR · 12/10/2023 16:25

I can’t believe they took their children on TV with them when they would have had zero to do with any of this decision making.

A blatant attempt to look more sympathetic - she comes across as a very unpleasant money grabber and I feel very sorry for those poor kids being dragged into it!

AgentProvocateur · 12/10/2023 16:30

I’m sure the 800,000 is not the full amount. It’s like when guys here that are having an affair and get caught admit to a snog…

SummaLuvin · 12/10/2023 16:32

Tom came across as lovely.

thats just it though, he came across that way, none of us know him or his intentions or his character. It's much more comfortable and compelling for people to think he was a lovely old gent who was blind to his families greed and exploited, than accept he might have been very cunning and took people for a ride. We just don't know either way.

Thisisme23 · 12/10/2023 16:32

It always puzzled me why the media went so bonkers over this sweet looking old guy walking round his garden to raise money. There were plenty of other fund raising attempts going on at the same time but somehow the media just focussed on this one man (and his already rich family)

I remember looking at the donation page right at the beginning and there was a link on there to some publicity or media company (or thats what it seemed like to me) and that was his daughters company. I thought it seemed dodgy then and never donated.

The fact that shes continued to capitalize on Toms publicity and scoop out money and planning applications along the way ever since is astonishing TBH.
Hopefully there will be a full investigation at some point (I believe Tom's trust is already under the spotlight of the charity commission).

The whole thing stank from the beginning

Jumperhermit · 12/10/2023 16:34

SummaLuvin · 12/10/2023 16:32

Tom came across as lovely.

thats just it though, he came across that way, none of us know him or his intentions or his character. It's much more comfortable and compelling for people to think he was a lovely old gent who was blind to his families greed and exploited, than accept he might have been very cunning and took people for a ride. We just don't know either way.

True, I’d not thought about it from this way.

1980F · 12/10/2023 16:36

Shameful that the great thing Captain Tom did, is now tarnished. Very sad

Jumperhermit · 12/10/2023 16:36

Thisisme23 · 12/10/2023 16:32

It always puzzled me why the media went so bonkers over this sweet looking old guy walking round his garden to raise money. There were plenty of other fund raising attempts going on at the same time but somehow the media just focussed on this one man (and his already rich family)

I remember looking at the donation page right at the beginning and there was a link on there to some publicity or media company (or thats what it seemed like to me) and that was his daughters company. I thought it seemed dodgy then and never donated.

The fact that shes continued to capitalize on Toms publicity and scoop out money and planning applications along the way ever since is astonishing TBH.
Hopefully there will be a full investigation at some point (I believe Tom's trust is already under the spotlight of the charity commission).

The whole thing stank from the beginning

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She even still has who had Dad was on her LinkedIn bio. Trying to squeeze as much out of his success as possible.

even one of the other grandkids was on Celebs go Dating and had to drop in “yeah I’m captain toms grandson” 🙄

Malarandras · 12/10/2023 16:38

Some people are very good liars and it comes easily to them. Simple as that really!

thecatsthecats · 12/10/2023 16:40

1980F · 12/10/2023 16:36

Shameful that the great thing Captain Tom did, is now tarnished. Very sad

He didn't do a great thing though. He did an averagely nice thing that happened to get a lot of attention and, without any specific effort of his own, happened to raise more money than he could ever have imagined.

There's nothing wrong with having done an averagely nice thing. Averagely nice covers the vast majority of the human race. Calling it a great thing is falling into the same hysteria that caused the media frenzy in the first place.

AndIKnewYouMeantIt · 12/10/2023 16:40

It was the Military angle, right? We're all supposed to go all gooey over little old men in medals. We're the nation of Help for Heroes bumper stickers.

Fulshaw · 12/10/2023 16:45

The Captain Tom thing was a symptom of the time we were living in, everyone was scared, we were in lockdown and he was a comforting figure to latch on to.

I don’t think an old man walking round his garden for charity would gather the slightest bit of attention in normal circumstances.

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DRS1970 · 12/10/2023 16:47

Let the charity commission do its job, and move on...

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genuine question - is there any evidence or reason to believe that he was lacking capacity?

It's terribly infantilising and insulting to assume that he was not in control of these decisions just because he is elderly. My grandma is over 90 and definitely has the mental ability to weigh up pros, cons, and risks. And no way in hell would we get her on a plane if that was not something she wanted from her own free will.

BMW6 · 12/10/2023 17:02

The thing is, she's an intelligent woman. She would have been aware that any hint of her family benefiting financially from her father's walk would bring huge public scrutiny and disapprobation.

She would gave known that they had to be scrupulous about not touching ANY of the funds raised - as indeed would her father.

She needs to prove that any money they got was legally inherited from her fathers estate - and in no way from the charity OR his book sales, since his book dedication suggests that was his intention.

lightinthebox · 12/10/2023 17:02

If these people genuinely cared about his health they would have over ridden his decision for a holiday to keep him safe.

Their actions now show that they took advantage of his status to ignore Covid restrictions at the time.

eveoha · 12/10/2023 17:03

…. people were gulled and hindsight is a marvellous thing - but I think a lot of people did not trust their instincts or if they were a bit dubious re this gang of schysters and spoke out they were pilloried - we were all treated with contempt and brainwashed 👍🏿☘️

mummymeister · 12/10/2023 17:05

She is an absolute grifter and I said this the very first time the story appeared. she knew how to market, she knows what tugs at the heart strings. I think she is absolutely dispicable and would have no qualms telling her this to her face.