To not understand how Hannah Ingram-Moore can lie so unashamedly?

[TigerQueenie]

So she's admitted keeping over £800k of the money raised for herself. Claims it was her fathers wish, even though it wasn't documented anywhere, that the proceeds from his book stay in the family. The foreword of the book talks of his delight to be able to raise even more money through sales of his book. She claims nobody has been mislead.

And then cried.

How is there not being a bigger deal made of it?

I think a fairly big thing is being made from it.

As for how she could lie - sadly, large sums of money can do that to people.

It was only a matter of time before JS was brought up. Agree with the poster who called this a feeding frenzy.

Sick thread. I'm out.

This. ^ I can't post on here what I think of this woman, or I'd be banned. You can probably guess, as most people reading this thread very likely feel the same.

@MayThe4th · Today 18:37

Some of this thread has a really unpleasant vibe to it.

I think it’s evident that the daughter has exploited the opportunity to make money for herself. I don’t think she could have planned it though, more that it was an opportunist moment which she then exploited.

But to assume that he was a part of it is uncalled for. We know absolutely nothing about him, and any one of us could ultimately be implicated by association with someone who is guilty of wrongdoing.

he is dead and not here to defend himself or even to voice an opinion..

As for the poster who compared him to Jimmy Saville, you should be ashamed of yourself. Frankly the comparison to Jimmy Saville that some people make when they feel it appropriate to accuse a dead person of something is despicable.

Blimey!* * I missed that. Who the hell did that? And why??? Tom's done/did nothing wrong!

This. ^ Well said!

There's nothing wrong with questioning how the armed forces are put on a pedestal in a way that other dangerous yet essential professions (e.g. firefighting) aren't, especially when successive governments have used the perceived glory and heroism of military service to recruit British youth as cannon fodder for the USA's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I care a lot about our armed forces. That's why I want them at home in the UK, not dying to fight for someone else.

She is a fucking disgrace. I hope she has to pay it back and serve a prison sentence. If I stole £800k from the NHS I would fully expect to go to jail.

Christ, what a silly bitch she is!

Nobody is raising JS because they are saying that Captain Tom was like him or even that he committed crimes. The point is that if we create a general culture where you cant ever question someone's motives because they are old/famous/distinguished military veteran etc, then you create a culture where the actual criminals can thrive because they noone any doubters will be immediately shut down

That succinctly sums her up!

Captain Tom has done nothing wrong apart from the way he votes, going on holiday and being boring apparently.

No one is saying he shouldn't criticised but there is nothing to criticise him for, so to then bring in Jimmy Savile as a comparison is just plain sick.

Well said. I don't want to sully an elderly man's memory. I genuinely believe that he was doing it for the right reasons.

Thank you! I'm criticising the media and PR machine here, not the guy himself.

Me and DS1 saw right through her from the get go. Neither of us gave to Captain Tom’s cause because, while he might have been a nice little old man who was trying to do a good thing, it all got too much. They didn’t need to be on the BBC & ITV every day for weeks but she loved the attention so the more it came the more she wanted. The same with the money.

I’m not surprised she’s done this interview with Piers Morgan. She’s utterly shameless. She had him on speed dial when her father was alive, he gobbed off up hill and down dale about trolls when he died, too.

If she had any sense she’d go away somewhere quiet, and pay all the money back.

I don't think the foreword does say he wants to raise more money through sales of the book. It's more cleverly worded than that. It says this book is giving him the opportunity to raise more funds. People might assume that meant the proceeds of the book went to charity but it didn't say that. He could easily have meant that the publicity around the book would spread his story and encourage more people to donate.
The media projected a lot of intentions and values on Captain Tom and his family. And are now acting outraged that their projections were wrong.
People shouldn't have bought the book without checking if the money went to charity - if that was important to them. The charity commission can investigate the rest of it.
Tbh it's not a big story. The conflict in Israel and Palestine - that's a big story. The scandal of Mermaids and Stonewall - they're big stories. People scamming money - it's an everyday occurrence . . . especially under the Tories.

The money raised did not go towards the NHS. It was raised for NHS Charities which is entirely separate.

I agree that it's very unlikely that Sir Tom was a Machiavellian co-conspirator!

I do think his daughter caught on very quickly to the fact she could use him to further her career and financial prospects.

I also don't think he did a 'great thing'. He walked up and down a bit and made a lot of money for the NHS (and his daughter).

Lengths not laps!

The whole Captain Tom thing was one of the most bonkers moments of the pandemic. People lost their minds for him because he was old and because the UK fetishises WWII.

His daughter and her husband are a repulsive pair.

Shes a total wrong un. Saw her chance when her father started his laps and she took it from there. I really believe she's been behind it all. Just saw a clip of her on the news, she looks defiant and defensive.

I am actually shocked people are surprised by these revelations.

The original go fund me was set up in her companies name. Which was a or or marketing (or similar) company. It wasn’t set up in his name or even her name. She planned to use this to benefit her and her companies benefit from the start.

The whole thing was an obvious grift. She dragged her kids on interviews with GMB with obviously scripted responses to give. Not surprising she dragged them on there. It’s all about optics and exposure. She always was manipulating the situation for her benefit.

No idea wether her Dad was in on it, or if she wasn’t taking advantage of him. But it was always obvious her focus was herself.

well he raised £38m.

So yeah, I'd say a lot of people were fully into the old boy and his walks

YANBU but this is what happens when the cult of celebrity takes over and ordinary people are fetishised and placed on a pedestal.

people admit to something small in the hope that we all don’t see the big fraud / theft