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To be sickened by Hamas

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MindfullyAmazedHorse · 10/10/2023 22:08

AIBU to be sickened by what Hamas terrorists have done to innocent Israeli citizens?

I am not totally familiar with the whole Israeli - Palestinian situation. I don’t think anything political can explain what has happened over the last few days.

It is utterly horrendous what Hamas has done. I also think that Hamas are no friend to the Palestinians. They are bringing wrath on them.

I have read that this is the worst attack on innocent Jewish people since the holocaust, which is horrifying.

I am struggling to process these recent events.

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bellamountain · 10/10/2023 22:40

Horrified. There are no buts or ifs when innocent civilians are slaughtered and children and babies are ripped from their mothers arms.

Circumferences · 10/10/2023 22:42

NotSuchASmugMarried · 10/10/2023 22:39

Blame Hamas then.

Israel have always targeted Palestinian schools. They are understandably sick of it.

EvilElsa · 10/10/2023 22:42

I've had to stop reading and watching news reports, I find it too upsetting (and I'm hard to upset). I couldn't read the article about the babies (I'm not going to say what the headline is as it's traumatic) and it makes me despair for humanity.

edwinbear · 10/10/2023 22:42

@MindfullyAmazedHorse there are sadly, an awful lot of of innocent babies and children who will die horrific deaths in Gaza over the next few days. Some of them through starving to death due to Israel’s actions. It’s not as straightforward as ‘one side good, one side evil’.

MindfullyAmazedHorse · 10/10/2023 22:43

Circumferences · 10/10/2023 22:40

I don’t understand how you can justify this massacre of innocent people?

Can you justify Israel murdering thousands upon thousands of Palestinians? Keeping them locked up in Gaza? Bombing schools? Children? Because that's what Israel have been doing.

That’s not accurate though is it? Sometimes Palestinians attack Israelis. This attack j by Hamas is pure evil.

Also although they are full of hate for the Jewish people they also hate people from Western / Christian / Atheist countries too - don’t think they’ll stop at the Israelis.

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Pollyputhekettleon · 10/10/2023 22:44

His4Helium · 10/10/2023 22:26

The entire situation is sickening. I don't ever agree with any terrorist action.

I do think GB has blood on its hands with the roots of this

I've been told that the British offered the locals each a state before they left, more than once. The Jews said yes please, the Arabs said no the Jews can't have one. I've been asking pro-Palestinian people all day why they said no to that but getting no good answers yet. I think the solution the British offered was fine. Two states, each do their own thing.

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Toothyfruity · 10/10/2023 22:35

Wait til you hear what Israel has been up to in the last 2 days.

what, in response to the unprovoked slaughter and rape of their people? Did you expect them not to react, not to defend themselves?

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NotSuchASmugMarried · 10/10/2023 22:45

Circumferences · 10/10/2023 22:42

Israel have always targeted Palestinian schools. They are understandably sick of it.

No, I still blame Hamas. If they hadn't attacked Israel and then hidden themselves in schools containing innocent palestinian children then Israel wouldn't have targeted them. So yeah, I still blame Hamas.

MindfullyAmazedHorse · 10/10/2023 22:45

edwinbear · 10/10/2023 22:42

@MindfullyAmazedHorse there are sadly, an awful lot of of innocent babies and children who will die horrific deaths in Gaza over the next few days. Some of them through starving to death due to Israel’s actions. It’s not as straightforward as ‘one side good, one side evil’.

I never said life was simple, but the actions of Hamas are pure evil.

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edwinbear · 10/10/2023 22:42

@MindfullyAmazedHorse there are sadly, an awful lot of of innocent babies and children who will die horrific deaths in Gaza over the next few days. Some of them through starving to death due to Israel’s actions. It’s not as straightforward as ‘one side good, one side evil’.

Yup, and we can be sad for those innocents trapped in Gaza being used as pawns AND think that Hamas are scum of the earth. Hundreds of babies being killed in Palestine DOES NOT give Hamas justification to go beheading babies. Surely you can see that????

NotSuchASmugMarried · 10/10/2023 22:46

These anti-semetic posters on here are a joke.

If any country did this to the UK we'd retaliate too.

MindfullyAmazedHorse · 10/10/2023 22:46

Circumferences · 10/10/2023 22:42

Israel have always targeted Palestinian schools. They are understandably sick of it.

Do you have evidence of that? Do you mind if I ask you where you got that opinion from?

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Circumferences · 10/10/2023 22:46

That’s not accurate though is it
Oh dear god please read up on the situation.

Pennina · 10/10/2023 22:47

In what kind of insane parallel universe can mass murder, rape and hostage-taking by Hamas - an Islamist terrorist organisation be interpreted as a legitimate act of
'resistance'? It takes a unique strain of psychosis to justify the slaughter and capture of hundreds of innocent men, women and children - children who have been beheaded, woman being paraded on TV with bloodied trousers, naked woman on the back of trucks being spat on, while men yell Allahu Akbar. Really?! and they justify this because of Israel's unwillingness to give in to terrorists. hamas do not accept the right of Israel to exist and are not interested in a 2 state solution.

Willyoujustbequiet · 10/10/2023 22:48

redfacebigdisgrace · 10/10/2023 22:18

Reading about the babies being killed at the kibbutz has done it for me.

No “what abouts” …just evil, full stop.

This.

Shame on anyone who voted yabu.

Apologists for the slaughter of children.

caringcarer · 10/10/2023 22:48

Hamas are evil. They beheaded babies and raped young girls also took elderly women as hostages and some of these elderly women were raped too in front of others who were held at gun point. They are trying to get some of their imprisoned terrorists released. I hope it doesn't work. Now Hamas have said for every Palestinian house damaged they will kill a hostage. They have no intention of releasing those poor hostages. I bet some of them are dead already. Also evil Hamas hide among ordinary Palestinian civilians to use them as human shields.

MindfullyAmazedHorse · 10/10/2023 22:49

NotSuchASmugMarried · 10/10/2023 22:46

These anti-semetic posters on here are a joke.

If any country did this to the UK we'd retaliate too.

Yes, any country would.

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Circumferences · 10/10/2023 22:37

I am not totally familiar with the whole Israeli - Palestinian situation.

I suggest you get familiar then.

Israel have murdered thousands of Palestinians over decades. I'm not surprised they have eventually retaliated.

The problem has always been terrorism in the Palestinian region... Hamas has control over Palestine since 2007. thats why israel created the blockade- unfortunately innocent Palestinians suffered because of this. Whilst it is still easy to just blame israel, it is important to recognise how challenging negotiations can be when you are dealing with terrorists

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It was reported on/confirmed in BBC news tonight

Toothyfruity · 10/10/2023 22:49

"I have been following the news. I don’t blame the IDF for their reaction. I believe that as well as targeting Hamas terrorists they have tried to help Palestinian civilians too."

Well that would be a first.

I think you need to educate yourself on this matter before sharing your opinion.

BumWad · 10/10/2023 22:49

OP, you said dead babies?

Here is a Gaza right now. Except this has been happening for the past 20/30 years.

Israel have done this.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyOVhYdNgNh/?igshid=NzZhOTFlYzFmZQ==

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyOVhYdNgNh/?igshid=NzZhOTFlYzFmZQ==

Circumferences · 10/10/2023 22:50

hamas do not accept the right of Israel to exist and are not interested in a 2 state solution.

It's Israel who don't want a 2 state solution.
They want Gaza. They have occupied Gaza, against international law and imprisoned the Palestinians there. It's not theirs.

PurpleChrayne · 10/10/2023 22:50

It's unbearable.

As a Jewish mother my heart is breaking.

It's too much.

Please stop with the whataboutery. Those babies didn't deserve to die.

This is the worst it's been for us since the Holocaust.

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