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Nieces teenage coffee habit is costing ME money!

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crossroads1 · 10/10/2023 12:41

AIBU... we live with my MIL and whenever my SIL and her husband come to visit, they bring their nightmare of a 13 year old daughter. My SIL and BIL are TIGHT, but stinking RICH. BUT, when they come to ours the daughter always wants to go Starbucks, Costa, fancy coffee shops etc etccc. And the parents sit there while she asks me if we can go.

Sometimes I've said yes (if i want a coffee too) but when I try to make an excuse she doesnt stop. She is never told no. But the thing that IRKS me is when i do agree to take her they never offer to give me money to pay for her coffee habit. Not being funny but in a cost of living crisis, im not happy to pay £5 for her snapchat coffee.

On the flip side, whenever it his her birthday my BIL always puts on a huge birthday, everything paid for (he is generous when it comes to pleasing her and showing off), but AIBU to not want to pay for her coffee habit? I don't mind to take her in the car to Starbucks (obv she doesnt drive) but a little gratitude would be nice! And also the fact that they can defintely afford it, while me and DH are not in the best place financially. We do not have kids yet either.

How do I say no or ask them to give me the money to take THEIR daughter without sounding like a Scrooge or complete B*tch.

OP posts:
Startyabastard · 10/10/2023 13:43

Has she got any friends?

CitizenofMoronia · 10/10/2023 13:43

Get the sachets in all the flavors... the look on her face would be worth it,

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Instant-Coffee-Starbucks/s?keywords=Instant+Coffee&rh=n%3A12668257031%2Cp_89%3AStarbucks&c=ts&ts_id=12668257031

5128gap · 10/10/2023 13:44

You need to try to be a little more authentic OP. You are clearly presenting in one way to this child (nice, fun, generous auntie) while inwardly disliking, resenting her and calling her names.
Thats actually no fairer on her than on you. It's two faced and hypocritical.
There is no rational reason for you being obliged to take this girl anywhere. She has parents, grandparents and your husband who come higher in the hierarchy of obligation towards her than you, so why not just back away and let them get on with it?
She asks you to take her out? You say, "Not today niece, perhaps dad/uncle/grandad will take you"

arethereanyleftatall · 10/10/2023 13:44

kitsuneghost · 10/10/2023 13:30

Take her. order. ask for the money
when she says i haven't got any say 'well neither do I' and give her a long quiet look.

Seriously? With a 13yo niece?

ElFupacabra · 10/10/2023 13:45

After seeing my Chanel make up she outright said "Can you buy me this for Christmas?" I said its really expensive, and she just gave me a LOOK.

Is this for real? A look? Oh no!

Why do no adults have the bollocks to stand up to her?

She gives you a look and you say “That might work on your parents but not me kid” and that’s it.

literalviolence · 10/10/2023 13:45

You just need to say no and if she continues to push after that, you say 'I've already said no' and then move the conversation on.

uhtredofbattenberg · 10/10/2023 13:45

Perhaps ask your niece if she's paying ? 😆

I mean a 13yo has pocket money..

wishon · 10/10/2023 13:46

millymog11 · 10/10/2023 13:42

If you are 10 years younger than her own parents then this feels like a combination of:

  • your neice feels "in competition" with you as a lot of teenagers tend to do
  • you yourself feel threatened by your neice as some kind of competition to yourself - maybe because you feel she as a 13 year old (via her parents) has more economic power available to her than you do (as an adult with bills to pay etc)
  • maybe you feel disrespected by your neices parents who you feel view you as some kind of "playmate" for their daughter

Whatever the case and irrespective of whether any of the above are true, am I right in thinking there is at least ten years age gap between your neice and yourself (i.e. you are at least 23 years old)?

Assuming that is the case, it is double important you switch your approach and start distancing yourself from your neice, I would even struggle not to laugh at her and make remarks like "don't your parents know that caffeine is bad for growing teenagers" and "it will be great when you get your first Saturday job and you have your own money - how about a Saturday job in a Starbucks?"

The more you let her see you as some kind of peer on her level who she can boss around, the more she will do it. I know this for certain as I have a 14 year old teenage daughter. You need to turn it around and prompto.

You sound unhinged with a child-like emotional age, and I feel sorry for you.

However I do agree OP should distance herself from niece if she genuinely dislikes her.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 10/10/2023 13:49

I put YABU because you just need to say no. Stop taking her ffs.

HarpieDuJour · 10/10/2023 13:50

I had teenage nieces when I was 20, and I did feel quite a lot of pressure to be the "cool auntie". It got a bit expensive though, so I had to stop.

I recommend just saying "Nah, I've gone off Starbucks coffee, ask your mum if you need a lift". She's not going to put you up against a wall and shoot you, is she? And if she really is a nightmare, then you might feel better if she's being a nightmare that you said no to, rather than a nightmare that you indulge.

enchantedsquirrelwood · 10/10/2023 13:52

Tell her you're not going to Costa because they support breast mutilation. That will probably stop her in her tracks.

You do seem like a pushover. If you don't like her, don't spend time or money on her. She's not your blood relative, her parents or your DH can. And go out for a walk when she comes round with her parents.

And when it comes to other expensive things, just say "ah well you'll have to work to get good grades at school so you can get a good job and pay for them when you are an adult".

Tinkerbyebye · 10/10/2023 13:54

Sorry xxx I am not going but your mum and dad can take you

or be honest in their hearing sorry xxx I can’t afford to take you. If mum and dad want to take you they can

JenniferBooth · 10/10/2023 13:54

Introduce her to Beanies Coffee and have it at home

Est1990 · 10/10/2023 13:55

Why is a 13 year old even drinking coffee?
🤨

Cosyblankets · 10/10/2023 13:56

AvocadotoastORahouse · 10/10/2023 12:45

"We have no money for treats this week as things are tight, but if Mum or Dad want to give you the money, I'd happily take you in the car"

Then a firm stare at BIL/SIL.

This

SamPoodle123 · 10/10/2023 14:00

They probably do not realize the cost is a lot to you. I would just not take her and suggest her parents do. Or say sure I don't mind driving you, but lost my card so...

Newmama67 · 10/10/2023 14:02

I’d also pay for my thirteen year old - or even adult - niece if we happened to be getting a coffee together but this would happen very occasionally and be a “my treat” sort of thing.

I’d just say, “Ooh we worked out how much money we spend a year on shop bought coffee so we’re trying to kick our habit by staying away from them and their lovely smells which I can’t resist so best I don’t take you either.” You’ll have to ask Mum and Dad and perhaps you can have one on the way home or another day this week.”

Repeat. Have a lovely coffee when they go home. 😁

Newmama67 · 10/10/2023 14:02

SamPoodle123 · 10/10/2023 14:00

They probably do not realize the cost is a lot to you. I would just not take her and suggest her parents do. Or say sure I don't mind driving you, but lost my card so...

But this one only works for one visit.

Newmama67 · 10/10/2023 14:03

Est1990 · 10/10/2023 13:55

Why is a 13 year old even drinking coffee?
🤨

Quite. I have told my husband do not even think about buying one for our daughter given how much he spends on shop bought coffee a month let alone over a lifetime…

VenusClapTrap · 10/10/2023 14:03

Est1990 · 10/10/2023 13:55

Why is a 13 year old even drinking coffee?
🤨

Quite! I can’t believe it’s got to page 5 and nobody has said this till now! I have a 13yo and neither her nor any of her friends drink coffee, for good reason.

BerriesNutsConkers · 10/10/2023 14:04

Easy, if you don't want to pay for her coffee then don't go!

Dizzydeers · 10/10/2023 14:04

Buy her a costa voucher for Christmas, remind her to bring it when she asks for coffee.

Newmama67 · 10/10/2023 14:05

VenusClapTrap · 10/10/2023 14:03

Quite! I can’t believe it’s got to page 5 and nobody has said this till now! I have a 13yo and neither her nor any of her friends drink coffee, for good reason.

I agree but her parents are clearly ok with it so that horse seems to have very much bolted.

grumpycow1 · 10/10/2023 14:05

She obviously looks up to you and wants to be friends with you. Yes she sounds horrifically spoilt but that’s not really her fault. I feel like the way you talk about her, you don’t like her, so it’s unfair to let her keep trying with you. You need to just say ‘Sorry I can’t afford to go out and buy coffee this time, let’s make one here’. Loudly in front of her parents or failing that get DH to have a word with them.

grumpycow1 · 10/10/2023 14:06

And yes find it very weird that a 13 yo drinks coffee, unless it’s decaf?!

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