So upset about dp prospects

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I don't know what I wish to achieve by posting here but I need it off my chest.
Dp came from another country several years ago and was granted work permission last year I helped him get work through an agency in a factory setting but it's only minimum wage and he has relatives back in his home country who are always looking towards him for financial help due to extremely low wages there.
Dp attended school in his home country but he left at age 14 to work and help his family who where quite poor.
Dp said there was no such thing as leaving school with grades etc and he was never able to release any potential.
What I've found is that dp is actually very clever and appears to pick things up very quickly and is very capable but we are stuck we can't afford training and he is working full-time so no time and I've helped apply for jobs but we are finding his cv is very tricky as hardly any work history here in the uk and no UK education.
He is never selected on any job application rejection after rejection and he is 46 now.
His current employer is so happy with him thinks he's great etc but it's minimum wage and he can't increase his income or learn new things. Please go easy on me I'm upset about this.

He was rejected by Mcdonalds and Aldi

Has he tried other shops or restaurants?

There are quite a few that allow you to work your way up.

What job is he in now?

He doesn't drive yet he failed theory by 1 point he's booked in again

He's in manufacturing right now I've told him to ask his manager Where he's working if he can do a broader range of tasks like welding to try and learn and progress but as I said he isn't permanent he is employed there through an agency.

1month
He has applied at restaurants before but he's never got his foot in the door I'm so frustrated as he would be a great employee

MoonShinesBright
Unfortunately some relatives are talking shit about him back in his home country they appear to think he's wasting his time here in the uk as he hasn't achieved certain things for them and doesn't send enough money etc etc

If he’s from a low-income country it is very hard for family there to understand that life is not easy for everyone here. IME all the TV series shown only showed affluent American lifestyles. I can understand that it is a really difficult situation that he’s in as I guess they expect it to be easy for him to send lots of money.

I’d just keep trying to get into an organisation with progression opportunities, try again Aldi Macdonalds, NHS, once he has a bit more local work experience. If not, any chance you can get a wfh/digital nomad job or local job teaching English and live in his country? You might have a better quality of life there. What was he doing there?

One of the free level 3 courses on the U.K.gov webpage was certification in welding….
They have weekend and evening classes.

It’s a difficult situation to be in and is unfortunately very common, it’s difficult to get a well paying job now there’s a lot of competition for most jobs anyway, and I can imagine when he is providing a cv with no recognised qualifications and also very little work experience it will be very easy to sift him our. For most entry level jobs you are at least going to need a Maths and English GCSE/qualification, so if he doesn’t have those he needs to find a way to either prove his qualifications from his home country are the equivalent and use those on CV, or failing that look at local colleges as most do some maths/english courses and get those under his belt as a minimum.

Without those, lots of doors won’t even open for him as you say it will just be an easy rejection as he isn’t meeting the minimum requirement.

Once he gets those qualifications one way or another he can then apply for most entry level jobs with the view of working his way up, or a potentially great option depending on his interests and skills could be an apprenticeship. It’s a low starting salary but then he’s on a low wage now anyway, they pay for you to undergo additional qualifications while working and the salary increases from there.

An agency isn’t going to invest in staff it’s not the nature of agency work, and working in manufacturing he is going to need qualifications if he wants to try anything else like welding as it will affect the companies insurance. It’s not as easy as just having a go, you have to be qualified.

Realistically if you want him to be able to increase his earning potential he needs to get some of these qualifications and if those don’t come free then there’s 2 options, either :

1. Increase your earning potential to cover his training/qualifications even if it is temporarily so that he is able to get this behind him

2. He needs to speak with his relatives and explain he can no longer afford to send money back at the moment, use that money to pay for any qualifications, and once he is earning more money if he wants to he can resume sending money if he wishes

Mrsttcno1
Your post makes alot of sense

Squirrelsonthescaffolding
Me living in his country is a massive no I don't speak the language opportunities there are extremely limited unless you have money it's very warm and I'm heat intolerant and its full of corruption and various problems

The money back home to relatives can't stop unfortunately but what they need to do is stop expecting more than what they already get and to respect him for what he does do for them.

https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/find-a-course

https://www.findapprenticeships.co.uk/adult-apprenticeships/

His family will have no concept of how expensive life is in the UK compared to their home country. DH is from North Africa and some family members see one side of the equation but not the other.
Bluntly there is nothing his family members can do if he stops sending money other than complain. I can also tell you than no matter how much he sends someone will still complain he is holding back. You need to agree an affordable amount between you and that is what he sends - duty done.
He can then focus on some of the great suggestions on this thread.

He needs to set his stall higher and look for a better job.

My ex-BIL sounds like your DH. No qualifications, from a country with desperate relatives hanging onto your coattails, heavily accented English. He started off as a warehouse assistant on minimum wage but showed a bit of nous, got promoted to shift leader, now he's managing the show and earns v well.

He needs to put himself out there and apply for supervisor jobs. I wouldn't faff around with basic skills qualifications at his age unless he's aiming for a specific job where a degree is necessary.

Or he'll have to get a second job or do delivery driving for extra money if he's got to send money to relatives.

What about a school caretaker? My husband was similar in that he left school with only 3 GCSEs and I’d always resigned myself to the fact he would never be a big earner.

He took a job as a school caretaker on about £19k a year, worked for a year then a school site manager role came up for £29k and he got that role. Then after another year a site manager role for three schools came up and he’s now on £42k. It’s a career path people dismiss so quickly because no one wants to be a caretaker but progression is fast for those who show willing.

My husband had literally no background in anything caretaker related when he got the role. He just had to show willing. And I’m so incredibly proud of him now.

He’s now doing health and safety qualifications and is hoping to get a job as Health and Safety Manager for a school trust which are about £50k.

Another added bonus is no weekend work and he works 8-4 with the odd day where he has to work later because of school open evenings etc. but he just takes the morning off on those days.

Surely he can create a CV.
Education: 'XXXXX leaving certificate'. Or just put the name of the high school. No one is going to delve very far into it if it's every level jobs

Experience:
'2020-2022 carer'. Then list the main duties.
'2022-2023 blah blah manufacturing whateveritishedoesnow' abd list the main duties.

Op can I ask what was he employed doing before he moved here? He must have at least 20 years work experience before moving? Can this not be used in terms of skill set?

unfortunately with no qualifications, poor written English and unable to drive, his options will be limited so he will need to start to address those. I understand financially it’s an issue but you could help possibly with the English and the driving.

He needs qualifications- can he start them in his own time?

I was a teenage mum and have no A levels or degree, only ever worked crap jobs. My current company don't care about qualifications, they take on people from all walks of life and you can work your way up as long as you put in the effort. I'm on track to be on £34k in a year, not huge but a nice amount for someone with absolutely no skills or education. Opportunities are out there.

This is what I was thinking. You're taking all this on yourself. The fact is he's 46 and hasn't done anything to change things himself. You're taking it all on yourself but that won't work.

khan accademy is free and does gcse maths and english. you would have to find your local exam place and pay for the exams but everything you need to learn is on there and as its online you can do it any time.

Just tell him to stop sending money to his relatives.

Are they able to work?