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AIBU?

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Is this CF, and have I been out of order?

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IDontCareMatthewImSpeakingToRachel · 29/09/2023 10:32

I don't think I am, but this has caused massive fallout.

A few months back 'friend' messaged me, telling me about a big event she was invited to and if I could help her with an outfit / shoes etc. friend is quite a glass half empty sort of person and has incredibly low self esteem so I've always been there for her to help / lift her spirits and just be an all round good friend to her.

I lent her a very expensive pair of shoes, I drove to her and helped with her hair and make up (she's not local to me) as I wanted her to look and feel fabulous for her event.
Yesterday I asked for my shoes back as I have an upcoming wedding to go to. Long story short she sent me an essay about how tough life is for her, and how ashamed she is, that she has sold my pair of shoes. (These are Christian louboutin shoes that were given to me as a wedding present a couple of years back) I told her that I was really angry at this, they weren't her shoes to sell. Friend went on to say she was under the impression that I GAVE her the shoes, and they were her shoes to sell.
I went back to the original message of when I offered them to her and it reads as follows..

'I have a pair of X you can wear, I won't need them for the time being so you can wear these if they fit you, you will look fabulous.'

From my understanding there was nothing about her being able to keep the shoes.

Anyway, I asked her who she sold them to and they were pawned. I called the store, explained that the shoes were mine and they confirmed they still have them and they haven't been sold on.
I told friend this, and told her she must buy the shoes back immediately.

She's agreed to buy them back, but has said that she will go without food, not be able to pay her mortgage for the month, and basically made me sound like a CF for asking her to do this. She's basically turning this whole thing back around on me, telling me that I could easily buy another pair of shoes. (I can't.. I don't have that disposable money as everyone knows how expensive life is at the mo!)

AIBU? I'm lucky I found the store she pawned them to and I'm lucky they haven't been sold on, she sold them recently and I gave them to her only a few months back so it's not as if they've been laying collecting dust under her bed!

She's now saying she won't be able to feed her kids (who are both in their late teens / early twenties May I add) and is trying to guilt trip me into saying don't worry about it.

The shoes have sentimental value, they were given to me by someone very special which is why I would rather have those specific shoes back rather than giving me the money for them. I guess it is my fault really for letting her borrow them. Needless to say, the friendship (of 15 years) is over.

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Fallenangelofthenorth · 01/10/2023 09:47

It's another forum, mainly celebrity gossip. They have an off topic section though where they talk about other things. A lot of people joined on there from mumsnet - it's quite entertaining to be fair. And with a lot being ex mumsnetters they sometimes take the piss about threads on here - especially one's such as this which end up as one big fight. It's smaller and at one point you needed a referral code to sign up so there seem to be fewer trolls than on here.

They also like to take the piss out of people in style and beauty and post their outfits and mock them

T1Dmama · 01/10/2023 10:19

WOW!
mIve read all your updates and feel so sorry for you!
This CF has effectively groomed you, I’m relieved you purchased the shoes back and hope they arrive in the condition you leant them to CF in!
I really hope you get the money back off her, but if not I reckon £300 is worth paying out just to realise what a user and abuser this CF was/is… just being able to warn all your family and friends never to help her out ever again makes that £300 worth every penny!
Look at what she’s lost in way of friendships and people to loan money off of…. Congrats to you for getting rid of the CF thief, manipulating groomer from your life…. Not someone you’d want round your children!!
Id ignore the pp saying you’re lying … probably her on multiple accounts.

Soubriquet · 01/10/2023 10:19

Hey OP…I think you need to buy the shoes back yourself Grin

Sorry couldn’t resist

Thebigblueballoon · 01/10/2023 10:21

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You need to start your own thread. Your post is going to get super lost here!

CrabbiesGingerBeer · 01/10/2023 10:22

@Funnierthantheaveragemum You need to start your own thread.

CherryMaDeara · 01/10/2023 10:22

Callipygion · 01/10/2023 09:17

I know all my sisters' shoe sizes, my brother's, my husband's, my mum & dad's, my son's, daughter's, my in-laws' and some friends too. Am I weird?

PS strangely I'm getting loads of ads for shoes suddenly on this thread.

No, I do too. It’s good knowledge to have when you spot bargains.

Naivekoala · 01/10/2023 10:26

Oh. What an awful experience. She'll never pay for the shoes so try and get them back yourself.
I'd sever your friendship.
I had a friend like this. Always mumping from me and oh I'll pay you back later.
It's just not worth it 😔 You'll make better, decent friends.

IDontCareMatthewImSpeakingToRachel · 01/10/2023 10:27

Anyone got a link to this tattle thing?

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T1Dmama · 01/10/2023 10:28

Naivekoala · 01/10/2023 10:26

Oh. What an awful experience. She'll never pay for the shoes so try and get them back yourself.
I'd sever your friendship.
I had a friend like this. Always mumping from me and oh I'll pay you back later.
It's just not worth it 😔 You'll make better, decent friends.

Read all the updates

Fallenangelofthenorth · 01/10/2023 10:29

IDontCareMatthewImSpeakingToRachel · 01/10/2023 10:27

Anyone got a link to this tattle thing?

I don't think we can post links but look for "Tattle Life" then "off topic" and you'll see it

LoveMyHome · 01/10/2023 10:29

defcon · 30/09/2023 07:58

"Tell her if the kids are starving she can send them to you and you’ll feed them."

Or sell them

Hahaha this is the best comment on the whole thread! 😂😂😂

Thebigblueballoon · 01/10/2023 10:30

Urgh. Reading this thread has turned into Groundhog Day. 😫

XelaM · 01/10/2023 10:32

OP - ignore the troll hunters and please report the theft (which is what it was) by the CF to the police. Also, report the pawnshop for handling stolen goods.

NotAMug · 01/10/2023 10:34

Callipygion · 01/10/2023 09:17

I know all my sisters' shoe sizes, my brother's, my husband's, my mum & dad's, my son's, daughter's, my in-laws' and some friends too. Am I weird?

PS strangely I'm getting loads of ads for shoes suddenly on this thread.

No, I thought this was completely normal! I know most of my close friends shoe sizes also.

IDontCareMatthewImSpeakingToRachel · 01/10/2023 10:34

Ah I've found it!

(Hi Tattlers reading my thread, I can confirm the person who posted about 'sister making up shoes sitch' is talking shite.)

What has this thread turned into!

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Funnierthantheaveragemum · 01/10/2023 10:35

Oh I’m so sorry!

IDontCareMatthewImSpeakingToRachel · 01/10/2023 10:35

Thebigblueballoon · 01/10/2023 10:30

Urgh. Reading this thread has turned into Groundhog Day. 😫

Hasn't it just!

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MrsLeonFarrell · 01/10/2023 10:38

I'm glad you are getting your shoes back and that you won't be grifted by that "friend" again. This comment is purely so I remember to check back for a photo of the shoes because I love shoes!

Fallenangelofthenorth · 01/10/2023 10:40

Does CF have lots of other friends? I just can't understand why she'd be happy to write off so many of you for the sake of a few hundred quid. Maybe she's already lined up the next suckers?

IDontCareMatthewImSpeakingToRachel · 01/10/2023 10:47

One of my lovely friends is coming over for coffee shortly, so I will report back later on after I've seen her. I'm going to show her this thread too so we can have a laugh.

If this thread gets full before then, I will make a part 2.

I'll name it something along the lines of 'CF stole my shoes part 2'

I should be back before then but in case I'm not, I'll do the part 2 later on.
Friends going to help me type up this letter to her.

Have a good day everyone!

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Thebigblueballoon · 01/10/2023 10:49

OP, has she now blocked all of your group on all forms of social media? How many people are we talking here? I’m predicting lots of drama this week after she receives your letter.

IDontCareMatthewImSpeakingToRachel · 01/10/2023 10:50

'A woman's right to shoes'
There you go tattler, not because my non existent sister has made me say it, but because I'm reading your thread.

FWIW, I don't have a sister.

Is this CF, and have I been out of order?
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Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/10/2023 10:57

Nanaof1 · 01/10/2023 00:28

To me, it's not only depressing to hear the criminal apologists but it angers me to my core. Their attitude is why stores in SF (my side of the pond) are closing, why certain everyday toiletry items are needing to be locked up and why CFer criminals continue to ply their "trade".

Because these people blame the criminals: environment, ASD, ADHD, depression, CPTSD, desperation, one political party or another, fate, SA, drug use, not using drugs, every other kind of abuse and anything under the sun to excuse the behavior of the criminal/CFer. Nothing is ever their fault and we are all supposed to suck it up.

Thanks but no thanks. You steal, you deal with the consequences.

I know, Nanaof1; I spend a lot of time in SoCal, and with all due respect parts of it seem to have liberalism like a disease Sad
It really is the "end of the rainbow" in many ways, but I know so many who are getting out and can't really say I'm surprised

AnnieSnap · 01/10/2023 11:12

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Young adults often spend silly money on gifts and it’s possible to look at an existing pair of the recipients shoes to check the size to buy. Of course you couldn’t be expected to know these things 🙄

Okki · 01/10/2023 11:17

Now you have bought the shoes back, you should cancel the cheque

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