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Is this CF, and have I been out of order?

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IDontCareMatthewImSpeakingToRachel · 29/09/2023 10:32

I don't think I am, but this has caused massive fallout.

A few months back 'friend' messaged me, telling me about a big event she was invited to and if I could help her with an outfit / shoes etc. friend is quite a glass half empty sort of person and has incredibly low self esteem so I've always been there for her to help / lift her spirits and just be an all round good friend to her.

I lent her a very expensive pair of shoes, I drove to her and helped with her hair and make up (she's not local to me) as I wanted her to look and feel fabulous for her event.
Yesterday I asked for my shoes back as I have an upcoming wedding to go to. Long story short she sent me an essay about how tough life is for her, and how ashamed she is, that she has sold my pair of shoes. (These are Christian louboutin shoes that were given to me as a wedding present a couple of years back) I told her that I was really angry at this, they weren't her shoes to sell. Friend went on to say she was under the impression that I GAVE her the shoes, and they were her shoes to sell.
I went back to the original message of when I offered them to her and it reads as follows..

'I have a pair of X you can wear, I won't need them for the time being so you can wear these if they fit you, you will look fabulous.'

From my understanding there was nothing about her being able to keep the shoes.

Anyway, I asked her who she sold them to and they were pawned. I called the store, explained that the shoes were mine and they confirmed they still have them and they haven't been sold on.
I told friend this, and told her she must buy the shoes back immediately.

She's agreed to buy them back, but has said that she will go without food, not be able to pay her mortgage for the month, and basically made me sound like a CF for asking her to do this. She's basically turning this whole thing back around on me, telling me that I could easily buy another pair of shoes. (I can't.. I don't have that disposable money as everyone knows how expensive life is at the mo!)

AIBU? I'm lucky I found the store she pawned them to and I'm lucky they haven't been sold on, she sold them recently and I gave them to her only a few months back so it's not as if they've been laying collecting dust under her bed!

She's now saying she won't be able to feed her kids (who are both in their late teens / early twenties May I add) and is trying to guilt trip me into saying don't worry about it.

The shoes have sentimental value, they were given to me by someone very special which is why I would rather have those specific shoes back rather than giving me the money for them. I guess it is my fault really for letting her borrow them. Needless to say, the friendship (of 15 years) is over.

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PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 01/10/2023 08:19

Ignore the people saying it’s fake …. A lot of us support you

Oooooooooooo1 · 01/10/2023 08:26

Glad you are getting them back @IDontCareMatthewImSpeakingToRachel , what a mess she's created

smallshinybutton · 01/10/2023 08:26

CherryMaDeara · 01/10/2023 07:47

By giving dried pulses to someone who won’t return your shoes?

This made me laugh so much

CarbsAreNotMyFriend · 01/10/2023 08:26

OP ignore all the trolls, don't respond to them or give them a second thought. They always come out when a thread has this many posts. Hope you are ok & have your shoes back very soon 😘

Prinnny · 01/10/2023 08:26

OP ignore posters saying you need to consider her mental health and calling you a mean girl, you are the victim here! She’s a CF and of course you needed to expose her in your friendship group, she has no one to blame but herself.

Fallenangelofthenorth · 01/10/2023 08:26

Cananyonehelpplease · 01/10/2023 04:51

The 'Tattle' site has a section about mumsnet and someone has mentioned this thread 😯

Hahaha I knew this would get picked up on there, however I was NOT expecting that comment 😮

BlurredEdges · 01/10/2023 08:26

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smallshinybutton · 01/10/2023 08:27

IDontCareMatthewImSpeakingToRachel · 01/10/2023 08:09

It's not a wind up!

I will put up a picture of the shoes in their postal packaging with my name and address blurred when the arrive.

I really hope this thread doesn't get pulled.
I can assure you my brother hasn't written on that forum. Plus, if it was a fake, how would my brother know this post was me if I made the whole thing up.

I literally give up.

It's so weird that another forum would decide to discuss your shoes imo!

Anyway hopefully your shoes are as you left them and all in one peice.

smallshinybutton · 01/10/2023 08:28

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Well yeah presumably there was some sort of communication involved...

Mumof118 · 01/10/2023 08:35

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We haven’t seen them yet.

They might be black and strappy, but op loved them so much she wore them anyway.

Or maybe he just bought cream or white because he knew it was a wedding.

As for shoe size, that’s easy to find out.

Luddite26 · 01/10/2023 08:38

Wow what a difference 24 hours makes.

IDontCareMatthewImSpeakingToRachel · 01/10/2023 08:46

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Yes he did? My brother was my man of honour and we went suit shopping together - we saw the shoes in a well known department store.

All he had to find out was my shoe size and he bought them at a later date.

He's an unbelievable brother, I don't care if people don't believe me.

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NotAMug · 01/10/2023 08:50

I am shocked at the number of people on here defending the CF.

Are you really all such pushovers in life? If you were burgled would you not call the police as if they can't sell your stuff they can't put food on the table or just in case it upset them and caused their mental health to get worse.

Absolutely ridiculous, get a back bone! The CF stole the shoes and sold them, in no way can the message OP sent be misconstrued to mean she was giving the shoes away. She was right to tell friends as if they has been doubting themselves over various incidents at least they now know for sure.

HulaChick · 01/10/2023 08:52

Please OP, don't feel you have to justify yourself to some of these ridiculous comments you're receiving. You are in the right on every level & are the clear victim here. The CF has betrayed you all, taken your friendship for granted and been an absolute vile bitch to you (& friends) & no sane, normal person would do that to anyone, let alone a friend. Here's hoping your shoes come back in the condition you lent them out in & that CF eventually finds some morals, principles & a conscience xx

IDontCareMatthewImSpeakingToRachel · 01/10/2023 08:57

HarlanPepper · 01/10/2023 06:59

Presented without comment:

The more I read this the more I think it's CF who's written this.

It's the style of writing and way she types (emojis)

So if you're here CF, hi, well done!

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littleorchard45 · 01/10/2023 09:02

So pleased you have managed to track the shoes down and they are on their way back to you. And don’t let those people defending CF make you feel bad - she’s basically stolen from you !!

Milliemoo6 · 01/10/2023 09:02

Yes your friend is absolutely in the wrong but the easiest thing to do is to buy the shoes back yourself and get her to pay you back.

LookItsMeAgain · 01/10/2023 09:09

Milliemoo6 · 01/10/2023 09:02

Yes your friend is absolutely in the wrong but the easiest thing to do is to buy the shoes back yourself and get her to pay you back.

The easiest thing to do, or to have done, would be for you to have read the OP's posts (easily done by clicking on the link in any of the OP's posts that say "See All") instead of posting a suggestion that is over 860 posts in.

That really would have been so terribly easy for you to have done.

UncleHerbie · 01/10/2023 09:09

Milliemoo6 · 01/10/2023 09:02

Yes your friend is absolutely in the wrong but the easiest thing to do is to buy the shoes back yourself and get her to pay you back.

Perhaps read all the OPs updates before posting …

Motnight · 01/10/2023 09:10

You have nothing to prove to anybody on here Op.

If this has all been made up - congratulations, it's a great thread. If it hasn't - then again congratulations, you've got your shoes back which is the most important thing!

Heyhoherewegoagain · 01/10/2023 09:11

IDontCareMatthewImSpeakingToRachel · 01/10/2023 08:46

Yes he did? My brother was my man of honour and we went suit shopping together - we saw the shoes in a well known department store.

All he had to find out was my shoe size and he bought them at a later date.

He's an unbelievable brother, I don't care if people don't believe me.

I believe you…as a scientific sample (😉) I just asked my 20 something son and daughter if they knew each other’s shoe sizes and they do.

BMW6 · 01/10/2023 09:13

HarlanPepper · 01/10/2023 06:59

Presented without comment:

Well that link you posted shows the post was created on 15 September.

OP didn't create this thread until 29 September.

Care to comment? Is time travel involved?

Mumof118 · 01/10/2023 09:15

A person who can do this, is not going to be forthcoming getting money back to you op. They are obviously a shitty, entitled, nasty piece of work. ‘Can’t feed my kids’ is an excuse. She could have worked something out with the op to make amends. I’m just happy not to have a person like this in my life and whether you get your money back or not, you’re better off rid of this woman.

As for her MH, I wouldn’t give that a second thought.

Nanaof1 · 01/10/2023 09:16

HarlanPepper · 01/10/2023 06:59

Presented without comment:

Because no one would go and pretend to be the sister so they could garner a bit of attention? Or the CFer or one of her kids trying to avert attention.

I never know if the post is a wind-up, a joke or real. But, I would rather err on the side of caution and be supportive than to be so jaded I can never believe anyone.

"I fell and had to spend three hours at the A&E and then they wouldn't x-ray my arm"--nope wind up/lie
"My child has just been diagnosed with ASD and I have no idea where to turn or how to cope." Nahlooking for attention

Where does it stop and when do you believe someone? Only if someone else doesn't post a story somewhere else calling it a lie?

If someone wrote a thread and talked about being the victim of horrible abuse by their husband or father, are people not going to believe her because it could be made up? I mean, all one ever had to do is read Penthouse once in their life to see how "creative" some can be with a story, including abuse. Same abuse story but somewhere else someone posts saying, "My Mum has posted this horrible story about how my Dad has abused her and how she is sitting in the closet holding ice on her eye and afraid he is going to come home. But my Dad died three years ago. It's all a story, a lie." Now, who do you believe?

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