To be profoundly saddened by this story

[Changeditforyou]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12565699/Police-rush-scene-incident-outside-busy-Croydon-shopping-centre.html

They tell us to help our daughters to protect themselves from male violence by thinking about what they wear, how much they drink, how late to stay out, where they go…
Are we supposed to add to the list ‘not rejecting a bunch of flowers in case you get stabbed to death’. This is horrifying.

I’m so so sick of male violence. It feels everywhere and inescapable. More luck than anything that your daughter isn’t the one. This poor girl and her family.

So. He thought he was entitled to take her life because she didn't want to go out with him.

They hate us. How can we stop them? Don't tell me it's 'not all men'. It's enough of them.

School fees are relevant. When I heard the first details of the attack, I thought my dgd would be protected by being at a fee-paying school. Clearly not.

Why the FUCK is the cost of her education important? Does it make a difference in the eyes of the law?

It seems so. I'm now convinced we need to take action.

Utterly heart breaking and depressing. Another male whose ego and pride is so fragile that he thinks the female who makes him feel rejected deserves to die.

This epidemic of extreme male violence won't be acknowledged though. It will be thoughts and prayers.

That poor girl and her family.

I read this earlier and thought the same as you OP (about not rejecting flowers being added to the endless list)

Poor lass and her family, Bloody tragic.

@Itsgettingweirdnow
I totally agree. Something has gone very wrong with the empathy of the younger generation.
Cancel culture instead of debate. Violence responses if you fall out/do not like someone.
This isn't just a Croydon problem, this is going on across the UK. There have been numerous stories with a man killing/seriously injuring an ex.

My thoughts are with her family at this time. No one should be in this position.

This isn't about Croydon.

It's about men mistaking women for property.

Why do boys and men hate us?

That poor poor girl and her family. There are no words.

Rising crime is a result of deliberate government underfunding of all relevant preventative and detection/justice services.

Social services, youth services, drug services, police, courts, probation - all cut, all contribute to prevention and detection.

The point at which a young person is on the street with a knife is too late.

We need to rebuild our entire prevention system, and also our detection systems.

Terrible incident amongst too many.

I haven't cried reading a piece of news for a while but this one really got me. There aren't words to describe the awfulness of this.

Good for the bus driver staying with her. Her poor poor family and the poor girl.

Men killing ex-partners/wives has been going on for many years. Nothing new.

This. I am fucking sick of violent, entitled males seeing women and girls as their sexual property. As the mother of a daughter I just despair. How can we protect our girls from this?

It can't simply be blamed on that.

Men hating women.

Yes they broke up and she didn’t want to get back with him but she may have changed her mind in a few weeks time. Now he’s got no chance.

WTF? That's the message you take from this?

The hero bus driver who stayed with her and held her whilst others (understandably) ran, what a dreadful but sadly common occurrence.

Absolutely this, all day long.

There's zero point being 'tough on crime', without addressing the reasons behind crime.

i am sick of male entitlement. sexism isn't on the decline either, young boys still listen to the likes of Andrew Tate too.

enough is enough

Because it implies she is white and privileged and therefore this is a story more worthy of our attention than if she were poor and black.

That’s the Mail for you.

@bookworm14 I know. But we can’t protect girls. As crazy as this seems we need to focus on education and nurturing our boys so this is stamped out. We need boys/men to see we are not sexual property. A lot of men and now young boys/men HATE US. The incel movement is not made up, and young impressionable boys are lapping it all up.

And as soon as it's pointed out, the male whining starts. "I'm not like that and neither are my friends, therefore it's not an issue." And the conversation doesn't happen. Or at least, women TRY and talk about it on social media, and it's derailed by the laughing face emojis of the men who for some reason think women standing up for themselves is a source of amusement.

Fucking hell.

I don't know what motivates each event. I believe VAWG is a huge issue.

I just want fewer, and fewer, and fewer incidents.

We need prevention. The government has cut every single service that helps keep people - importantly women and girls - safe.

Men are already born with a cognitive disadvantage that makes them susceptible to delusion, add porn and rampant misogyny into the mix and this doesn't surprise me. The headline is basically 'Another Wanktard does something Wanktardy '

As the mother of a daughter I just despair. How can we protect our girls from this?

We can’t. There’s absolutely nothing we can do to prevent this happening to our daughters.

Absolutely horrendous.

We live not that far from Croydon about 15 miles and there was a machete incident here in the summer where a boy was mugged.

The perpetrator has been given not much more than a slap in the wrist.

Wasn't there footage of people carrying machetes at the Notting Hill carnival and the police doing nothing?

My BIL is a met police officer in Croydon and knife crime is rife. He and most of his colleagues rarely do stop and search anymore as it just isn't worth the hassle and the potential disciplinary action.
The result kids running around with knives.

You reap what you sow.

So heartbreaking.

How dare he kill her because she wouldn’t go back out with him! Absolutely awful!!!

I’m the mother of a little boy. Even at his tender age I try to constantly teach him the importance of accepting rejection with dignity and moving on. Of respecting people’s boundaries. Of not lashing out if you don’t get your own way. That life isn’t fair etc. Because I am very conscious of not wanting to raise the type of boy who will be a typical male problem one day.

Parents we need to stop focusing on what girls can do to “protect themselves” and instead focus on teaching our boys to respect women’s autonomy and personal agency. If we all can teach boys better we may hopefully have a society with better men one day.