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To think the young gf/wife gets a raw deal

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gutfightinghead · 23/09/2023 20:59

I’m 15 years younger than my DH. We have been married a year and have a 4 month old baby. I’m 25, he’s 40 and we’re both in great careers, have our own home, financially stable, unbelievable sex life and genuinely happy. We have our disagreements like everyone else but on the whole it’s a healthy, happy relationship.

however - I still find I get a lot of sneers and as if I must be a young bimbo for being much younger, like I’m a silly wee girl. We got a lot of ‘oh she’s a silly young girl’ or ‘she’s his mid life crisis’, ‘it’ll never last’ etc.

just recently we had an appointment with our solicitor about something and he apologised and we said why? And he said he got us all wrong on paper he expected some young dope not someone with career, sensible etc

ive also noticed on mumsnet itself a lot of younger gf/wives etc get a bad name or labelled very quickly.

if they’re the other woman I completely understand as I know that sometimes is the case when there’s a younger gf/wife but apart from that I don’t understand why we get labelled so badly or as if we are silly/naive/stupid??

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vincettenoir · 23/09/2023 22:19

For the posters pointing out that there will still be a 15 year age gap later down the line, yes of course there will, but that’s a bit of a redundant point. IMO the age gap is probably starker at this point than it will be in the future.

MrsTerryPratchett · 23/09/2023 22:20

There will come a point when your baby is 21 (the age you met your partner) and you will be 46 (not much older than your partner is now) and he will be 61 (almost old enough to be the baby's grandfather). And you may think "bleugh". Or not. But you may think it. Especially if a middle aged man is sniffing around him or her.

I had a huge crush on a 36 yo when I was 19 yo, which he encouraged. And I thought it was all awesome. Thankfully I steered just past him and I now look back and think "what the fuck was he thinking, what a perv?". I didn't think that at 25.

Brain development continues into our 20s. And a healthy cynicism of middle aged men who date women just out of their teens develops after that. Give it time.

KingOfThieves · 23/09/2023 22:20

Can you really not stretch your imagination and see why? Is that beyond you? You really have NO idea? Because if so, that’s just as concerning

Happykey · 23/09/2023 22:20

I'm with my husband 10 years, they're not all vile.

lapsedbookworm · 23/09/2023 22:21

NatashaDancing · 23/09/2023 22:06

I've been a solicitor for 38 years. Is that "old school" enough for you? No solicitor would say that.

Agreed, I've spent vast swathes of time with "old school" solicitors. Can't imagine any of them using that expression

Davros · 23/09/2023 22:22

A very close family member met her DH when she was 19 and he was 32. Fast forward 45 years, her potential has never been fulfilled, she spent ten years caring for him at home and now he lives in a Care home full time. She had serious father issues from childhood. She made a big mistake, mostly being over-loyal, and she admits it herself

NewPinkJacket · 23/09/2023 22:25

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FluffyCloudsofShit · 23/09/2023 22:25

but apart from that I don’t understand why we get labelled so badly or as if we are silly/naive/stupid??

I don’t think people are just so quick to judge and I don’t really genuinely understand why

If you don't know why then I'm afraid that proves that you are naive.

Mamai90 · 23/09/2023 22:25

My DH is 37 and I'm 40, our godson is 21 and his girlfriend is the same age, the thought of my DH being with someone that age is a little creepy, they seem like children to us! I know my DH couldn't be with a 21 year old no more than I could be.

I suspect you'll see where I'm coming from when you're late 30s/early 40s.

I wouldn't judge the young women but I would wonder what a man in his late 30s would have in common with a 21 year old.

anomaly2 · 23/09/2023 22:26

CliffsofMohair · 23/09/2023 21:30

He left a long term relationship for a 21 year old?

Huh? Where are you reading that?

Nonplusultra · 23/09/2023 22:26

I’ll probably sound like a stereotype myself, but in your forties oestrogen levels slip a bit, and the rose tinted spectacles slip too. You stop seeing the best in men and see some of their bullshit clearly. Until it happens, it’s hard to credit the full impact of our hormones.

Plenty of men find women of their own age too hard to deal with because we see them clearly. It’s all so much less complicated with a younger woman, particularly one who hasn’t been messed around by men.

And then there’s the mismatch of life stages. By thirty a woman is hitting the peak of her sexual drive while a man’s is dwindling in his fifties. At forty when you’re at the peak of your career, he’s coasting towards retirement. Etc

That isn’t to say it can’t work. There are plenty of same age relationships that don’t last the distance too. If you’re happy, don’t mar it by looking for external approval, especially not on MN!

SueVineer · 23/09/2023 22:26

It’s really unusual to have kids as young as you did especially if you are an educated professional woman as you say. What led you to have children at such a young age?

anomaly2 · 23/09/2023 22:27

GotMooMilk · 23/09/2023 21:30

I mean this genuinely but do you worry he will do the same to you in another 20 years? That would be my concern.
‘trading in for a younger model’ is just an old trope which sadly happens a lot. My uncle did the same and he is very happy with his new wife. His ‘old’ family have struggled a lot though.

Do the same? Do the same as what? What are you talking about?

anomaly2 · 23/09/2023 22:28

Mumsanetta · 23/09/2023 21:32

You genuinely don’t see anything cringey about a man leaving his wife/partner for a 21 yr old? Age is a good educator and I suspect you’ll understand why it’s so cringey when you’re older.

Am I in some parallel universe? Why are people taking about him leaving his wife? Where is there any comments bout a previous wife?

WhateverMate · 23/09/2023 22:29

@anomaly2 if you read the thread, you'll see the OP has corrected the misunderstanding she caused.

Mumsanetta · 23/09/2023 22:31

@anomaly2 just the MN universe

To think the young gf/wife gets a raw deal
anomaly2 · 23/09/2023 22:31

Popsicle42 · 23/09/2023 21:33

You were 21 and he was 36 when you got together?
Do I take from your post that he has children from his first relationship who are close in age to you?
I would probably make assumptions about you both and your relationship in those circumstances.

Jesus. All you weird people making up stories in your head. There is nothing to suggest previous dc or a previous wife that was left. This is proof that people are blind in their ridiculous judgement of age gap relationships. It instantly occurred to you and others that he left a wife and dc for a younger model. Go check yourself and your preconceived judgement. And never serve in a jury.

creativeblossom · 23/09/2023 22:32

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Who says those that don't cannot, you really do have a twisted view on the world don't you, some of us are more intelligent to look at numbers only.

I really do feel pity for you. How lonely it must be to berate a young woman on a Saturday night for kicks 😂

WhateverMate · 23/09/2023 22:33

anomaly2 · 23/09/2023 22:31

Jesus. All you weird people making up stories in your head. There is nothing to suggest previous dc or a previous wife that was left. This is proof that people are blind in their ridiculous judgement of age gap relationships. It instantly occurred to you and others that he left a wife and dc for a younger model. Go check yourself and your preconceived judgement. And never serve in a jury.

Oh the irony 🤣🤣🤣

I think you need to read the thread yourself 👓

Usernamen · 23/09/2023 22:33

I don’t want to be one of those gobshites who pokes holes in people’s stories, but I can’t quite square someone who graduated university, completed a professional qualification, is now in a very high earning job in Finance (out-earning their 40 year-old husband), and who loves their career, getting pregnant at 23/24.

OP, are you sure you’re 25?

Are you still splitting finances ‘equally’ while you’re on maternity leave?

GarlicGrace · 23/09/2023 22:34

I didn’t start this thread to be told I’m young, naive etc, I wanted to see the assumptions

honestly not trying to be controversial or anything just interested in where/why there’s this stereotype and where it comes from

OK, but this really does make you look as young and unworldly as you say you're not! You sound like a real high achiever and must be very bright, so how have you reached 25 without understanding why there is scepticism around age-gap relationships?

Everybody thinks they're mature at 25. Everybody thinks they're mature at 14, for heaven's sake. Those of us who've been 25 know this.

What's a little harder to understand is why a 40-year-old would believe you are at similar levels of maturity and, even more insanely, will remain so. Is he refusing to grow up? Turning a blind eye to what the future might hold? Are you his key to 'staying young', as some older men claim their second families are?

See, the questions are more about him. And, granted, how you've reached your mid-twenties without (allegedly) having some grasp of this. Your solicitor was right first time; sorry.

SueVineer · 23/09/2023 22:35

gutfightinghead · 23/09/2023 21:59

@Wishitsnows i went straight from school, uni, professional qualification and into a high paying finance job.

@Unicorn2022 solicitor is very old school, not very PC type, he’s one of those ones if you knew him you’d know it’s his manner.

personally doesn’t feel like honeymoon period, we’ve been through some horrendous stuff together and made it out the other side as each others support.

I’ve always been mature for my age. I don’t drink, I hate going out, I just like my career and love my now family. I don’t feel silly or trapped. I had a bit of a shitty childhood (and yes this is where people are going to say awh that explains it and to a degree it definitely does). I didn’t start this thread to be told I’m young, naive etc, I wanted to see the assumptions and I was bang on unfortunately

You must be very early in your career. Yet you already out earn your 40 year old dh.

Not all age gap relationships do, but this one screams “daddy issues”.

Ejismyf · 23/09/2023 22:36

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MsRosley · 23/09/2023 22:36

gutfightinghead · 23/09/2023 21:45

Actually it’s pretty amazing 🥰

It is now. Wait another 20 years when he's 60 and you're just 45, and all his health issues start to kick in.

Totalwasteofpaper · 23/09/2023 22:37

YaWeeFurryBastard · 23/09/2023 22:04

@Wishitsnows i went straight from school, uni, professional qualification and into a high paying finance job.

I’m sorry but this just doesn’t add up, you are at a stretch, one year post qualified with a maternity leave added in, that does not equal a high paid finance job unless you’re an investment banker (unlikely given the mention of professional qualification) or your idea of “high paying” is low. What’s even more concerning is that you already outearn this man who has two children to support and is fifteen years deeper into his career. I sincerely hope you aren’t subsidising him.

Yup.

All of this.
You are also yet to fully enjoy the motherhood penalty in the world of work.
I work for a progressive diverse "woke" tech firm and yet still haven't escaped it.

Come back in ten years and tell us how amazing your life is... 👍

Also I do think you are getting a raw deal... but not for the same reasons as you do...

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