Russel has spoken

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On Instagram, has anyone seen? What are your thoughts?

If you read my posts properly, I have said that side effects exist but are very rare - especially the more serious ones. I’m not denying anyone’s experience.

Unlike the RB defenders.

Trifecta of bullshit!

Brand / Covid / climate change

I’m sure this will get deleted but fuck you’re thick.

Of course, dear. I’ve no doubt that the special clever people club you’re a member of has a direct line to the truth. And what better way to get that truth out there than to hide it behind a paywall that people can get through for a trifling £50 a month? Or to make some of it available through a social media site - not the most popular one, though - the obscure one that continues to pay you.

I can definitely see the altruism and desperate need to share his special knowledge with the special clever people. Russell is a hero and definitely not a rapey grifter.

Wow @Jumpingthruhoops you've really gone off the deep end.

I think you need to step away from the internet, go outside a bit, maybe get a job.

This conspiracy angle is so nuts. It means that Channel 4 wants criticise itself and bring itself into the spotlight for its own failures because of what Brand says.

I mean, that's ridiculous; we've moved from a fact based world to one that is all about opinion.

If you like Brand then facts don't matter. Bloody hell, good job there are still people who care about them like the police or the justice system which have to establish them.

''@Xrays

He’s delusional enough to think he’s some sort of messiah. He gives me Charles Manson vibes. Horrible man.''

This!

They do indeed have much in common. Able to charm and deceive people and and full of cult leader delusions.

completely narcissistic too so they actually are convinced that they are victims and freedom fighters against the establishment and that everybody else is wrong/out to get them.

It really is chilling.

No. It isn’t.

He specifically chose the words “All of my relationships were consensual”.

He did not say “All of my relationships AND sexual encounters were consensual”.

His take that he's become a target is utterly ridiculous.

There are plenty of other conspiracy theorists with a large audience that don't get accused of being a serial predator.

Why focus so much media attention on him if they want to silence him? Bit stupid to give him a bigger audience if that's the intention, don't you think?

He's just been trying to manipulate perception of himself. The truth is, he's vermin.

I have a conspiracy theorist in my close family, so I know all the things they believe. They want to believe they're better than all us 'sheeple' and they're so much more informed. Absolutely nothing has come true that they said would happen, and funnily there's no way of proving the things they say.

With RB, there is proof and evidence he's a rapist and abuser. Simple as that.

I don’t think @Jumpingthruhoops knows what strawman means

@Jumpingthruhoops strawmen are scientifically proven to me more robust. I'd be careful in case one of them sues you for defamation of character

The claims were made years before covid.
It's really obvious he started this conspiracy theory nonsense because he knew this was coming.
And before anyone jumps on this post with it's not conspiracy it's facts comments please don't.. It's boring.

I have a great job thanks, and this is literally the only 'internet' I've been on all day because I have a life too.

I suggest you have a think about why someone with critical thinking skills offends you so much.

Er, that you might have sex!?!?

Whether a 'sexual assault' took place is a separate conversation.

Really good point. This is a loss of income stream we’re talking about, not being hung drawn and quartered. When you live your life doing the kind of things RB doesn’t dispute, let alone the things he does dispute, sponsors and other paymasters withdrawing support is a risk you take.

Nooo... what's 'boring' is people calling him a conspiracy theorist without watching a single minute of his online content.

When I asked another poster to direct me to one of his YT videos that wasn't centred on official data, I was told they wouldn't want to 'waste their time'.

Tells me all I need to know really.

Money.

YouTube have suspended funding him.

Critical thinking skills? Oh the irony...

Some of us don't blindly believe the ramblings of conspiracy theorists and contrarians on YouTube.

Nope, I'm totally rational. I'm the one saying the man is innocent until proven guilty and deserves a fair trial. That statement couldn't be more rational.

I have also said that the significant rise in 'died suddenly', particularly in fit, healthy young men, should be investigated. Which it should.

The fact, for reasons unknown, you disagree with both those statements IS completely irrational.

I have also said that the significant rise in 'died suddenly', particularly in fit, healthy young men, should be investigated

Could you link to the data on the rise of sudden death in fit young men please? I would like to see it.

So I'll ask again, politely, which of RB's YT videos is 'conspiracy theory' as opposed to a 'summary of official data that "officials" would rather the masses didn't see'?

People seem unable to tell me this.

Shout 'conspiracy theory' all you want. But you do need evidence to back it up.

@Jumpingthruhoops do you think these women are lying about being raped and assaulted by RB?

Not being investigated?

A google search for ‘excessive death’ brings up numerous articles in mainstream papers (Guardian, Times, Telegraph, New Statesmen) that discuss the recent upwards trend.

Some offer suggestions like more drug & alcohol use, poor mental health services, NHS on its knees, long term effects of Covid especially links to heart and lung issues, more people than ever being killed on the roads etc.

Others suggest it’s unclear what’s causing it.

But it’s hardly something being hidden or ignored.

Just because your cult leader says something, doesn’t make it true.

As I’ve said before, I’m not going to waste time wading through Brand’s verbal diarrhoea but I’m sure between us we can take any example of a conspiracy you want to give us and show the truth within a few clicks.

@Jumpingthruhoops

Why would Russell Brand know anymore about covid then you or me?
He is uncovering things that literally anyone with a computer could find out themselves.
Did some people suffer injury from covid vaccinations, probably.
Did the same vaccination safe millions of people's lives.. Definitely.
The accusations against him go back far further than covid. How do you explain that?
He isn't being silenced with rape allegations because he is a threat to big pharmaceutical corporations.. he isn't relevant enough. He's not Trump.
He also isn't being silenced by the media like he is trying to suggest he is just losing advertising deals so isn't able to make money from it.
His latest post on Instagram about tech companies taking away freedom of speech is pure nonsense.
Facebook/Twitter have always shut down pages that are of concern (I'm think Tommy Robinson/Andrew Tate types) and why shouldn't they. Hate speech is dangerous and not a right.

@fettuccini I think what a lot of people are saying is that we have not seen the full evidence yet and there is a legal process to be followed. I am hoping these women will now go to the police and the truth will be uncovered.

I am not saying I disbelieve these women but I cannot say I can take everything that is said on a TV show as gospel. That is not a good way for society to operate.

People who say they believe any woman, no matter what they say I'm sorry but I just don't. I could name any person I know now and say they raped me and some people say they would just believe it. But that person hasn't raped me. There needs to be evidence which is examined in a court of law.

With regard to the TV show; I have posted before to say that the sensationalist way this was all presented with the teaser videos, online hints, dramatic music etc. made me feel uncomfortable as to whether the motive was simply to expose wrongdoing. It was more like a Roman "bread and circuses" type production or the "Five Minute Hate" in Orwell's 1984.

I don't even think many of the public realised they were seeing actors on the documentary.

I also did not realise myself until reading further that "Alice" was working for Channel 4 at the time of the incident she describes on Big Brother's Big Mouth which was presented by Russell Brand. I feel we were led to believe this was a schoolgirl with no connection to him. Her mother also drove her to Brand's house during the relationship.

I also have now seen the unredacted text sent by the woman who says, "no means no" (it's online if you search for it). On reading it in full it is not quite as presented on the TV show.

This is why a TV spectacular on this was not the way to go and why people on this thread saying, "I never liked him, he is hairy, dirty-looking" etc. are ridiculous.

I've been a juror on a rape trial at which we found the defendant guilty. A major, major thing in such a trial is to hear the full evidence from both parties and to see them, hear them speak and watch their facial expressions and make a judgement as to what is the truth.

Let the courts decide. Otherwise it is nothing but a witch hunt.

Ah right, so why do you need your wits about you to have sex..?

(By the way, ‘hooking up’ = having sex, so it’s still not really clear what you mean by:

Hook up with a known sex addict and the cards are pretty much there on the table.)