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Russel has spoken

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Whyismyfacealwaysdry · 22/09/2023 22:31

On Instagram, has anyone seen? What are your thoughts?

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Its5656 · 24/09/2023 17:11

squareyedannie · 24/09/2023 17:01

He's an exceptional groomer, isn't he?
He has millions of followers that hang-on to his every word.

I personally don't get it. He talks utter bollocks and I actually find him offensive.

It's funny how all of his supporters want proof from the women who have come forward yet require zero proof of the crap he's spouting on YouTube. Very Strange.

BlurredEdges · 24/09/2023 17:25

His lawyers are Carter-Ruck ffs. That's a establishment as it's possible to be.

He's a rich, powerful man using the most expensive lawyers to shut down the voices of individual women.

The fact that he has managed to persuade very gullible people that he represents some sort of rebellion against THE MAN is laughably stupid.

He is the man.

BlurredEdges · 24/09/2023 17:26

CountZacular · 24/09/2023 15:28

You didn’t say ‘I’m waiting to see the verdict’, or ‘I’m holding out on judgement’. You said you believe him. Those were your words.

If you’ve decided to believe him over four women initially, plus now several more, then you are either a fool or a misogynist.

Porque no los dos?

vlo · 24/09/2023 17:42

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/09/2023 16:58

Brand has known this day was coming since he was binned by Roast Battle and Katherine Ryan was kept.😊 Seems a bit convenient he disappeared from telly and focused on establishing himself as "enlightened" guru on the internet after this.

He's been grooming his followers.

Sorry, what do you mean by ‘grooming’ here? (As opposed to another expression like ‘cultivating a following’)

I’m not challenging what you’re saying, I’m curious what people’s understanding of the word ‘grooming’ is, as mine is different.

Blueink · 24/09/2023 17:50

Agree with the ‘hiding in plain sight’ which is not the same as RB being ‘transparent’.

He’s quite fickle actually when it comes to political views, they flip about to suit his own agenda (ie what can he say that will gather the biggest following).

The recent video shows his prime motivation for social media presence is to generate money.

I really don’t think he cares about anyone’s voice or freedom bar his own.

Jumpingthruhoops · 24/09/2023 18:00

Its5656 · 24/09/2023 16:04

@Jumpingthruhoops

I've never met a woman that has lied about rape.. I know plenty that have been victims of sexual assault. Some got justice most did not.

I definitely think you are correct in saying Russell Brands behaviour was encouraged.. The misogynist humour/shagger of the year crap wasn't on. There's a difference between that though and sexually assaulting school girls.
I should imagine this will now be investigated and if it's found that management knew about the criminal behaviour and did nothing then they should also be punished for that.

You've obviously made your mind up regarding Brand and think he's innocent.
I disagree.. Time will tell.

Fair post. Although I've not said anywhere that I outright think he's 'innocent'. Just that, at this moment in time, he hasn't been found guilty of anything - aside from by the media. A 'media' he's been criticising for the past few years. That's my issue.

SatsumaNightmare · 24/09/2023 18:04

Bingbangbongbash · 24/09/2023 16:17

Sorry, should have been more clear by ‘no-one’ I meant no-one that matters. ie the shady government types and lizard people that control the world.

The flat earthers and anti-vax dumbdumbs signed up to RB’s channels don’t matter in the grand conspiracy, do they?

You really think all six million people are full of shit? That maybe, just maybe, there are people who are curious or want to learn more or widen their perspectives by listening to something they may not agree with to see what it’s about? Instead you want to dismiss them as quacks. Yet at the same time you expect everyone to instantly believe the random accounts of four anonymous people.

Fascinating.

cavalier · 24/09/2023 18:08

He’s a first grade creep with delusions of grandeur… i cannot stand his rants .. he’s inlove with himself and people follow him and hang on to his every rant …
well I won’t … he’s just a born trouble maker

Winnipeg23 · 24/09/2023 18:14

How many men use every opportunity they have to satisfy their lists?
I don't know but id guess a lot.
I personally don't like Russell brand so I'm not defending what he has or hasn't done. I'd imagine a drug and sex addict would have done quite a lot of 'bad stuff'. None of which is acceptable.

HOWEVER he is being targeted. 100%.
Those in charge don't care about the victims I believe, they care about what he is saying on his channel and the popularity it has.

Control!

That's my tuppence worth. Take it or leave it.

We better watch we don't shut down freedom.of speech at the same time.

Bingbangbongbash · 24/09/2023 18:17

derxa · 24/09/2023 17:08

The flat earthers and anti-vax dumbdumbs signed up to RB’s channels don’t matter in the grand conspiracy, do they? I wasn't an anti vaxer and had two jabs like a good little girl. I now have an incurable health problem due to this. I couldn't give a shit about Russell Brand but I'm highly suspicious about the vaccine and how quickly it was rolled out.

I’m sorry you have health issues, but if it is connected to the vaccine, it will be one of the very rare serious side effects. It could also be a coincidence.

And you might be suspicious of the speed, but that’s because you fundamentally don’t understand the science behind the vaccine or tge way science research is done.

Most of the time taken to bring a new drug to the market is raising money and finding participants for studies. Neither was an issue during Covid.

The basis of the vaccine was also well tested prior to the pandemic and so they weren’t starting from scratch.

Be suspicious but don’t mistake that for truth.

Jumpingthruhoops · 24/09/2023 18:20

henlee · 24/09/2023 16:41

here Dispatches literally could have unearthed ALL of those women... turned out just four. And even then they were represented by actors!

@Jumpingthruhoops

I think it's incredibly unfair to try and imply the fact that the women are remaining anonymous weakens their case.

Anyone who goes public with their accusations will be subject to extreme trolling, including death and rape threats. This is the problem with kind of conspiracy theorists and fans that these sort of cases attract.

Oh, I agree. Their identities should absolutely be protected because of those problems you cite. Which is the exact reason why the identity of the accused should also be protected until they have actually been charged/found guilty of something. Regardless of whether you like the accused.

Also, I do think 'conspiracy theorist' (which RB has been called) has become a really lazy term; just thrown about to try and silence those who dare to challenge the preferred narrative. And, whether you want to acknowledge it or not, there IS a preferred narrative.

I'm genuinely interested to understand which of RB's YT videos people are specifically referring to? All the ones I've seen, he is merely discussing reports from respected journals/organisations - that those in power would rather the masses didn't see. These aren't 'conspiracy theories'.

But if there is something I've missed, please do share. Thanks.

Bingbangbongbash · 24/09/2023 18:23

SatsumaNightmare · 24/09/2023 18:04

You really think all six million people are full of shit? That maybe, just maybe, there are people who are curious or want to learn more or widen their perspectives by listening to something they may not agree with to see what it’s about? Instead you want to dismiss them as quacks. Yet at the same time you expect everyone to instantly believe the random accounts of four anonymous people.

Fascinating.

I think anyone who believes this is a big government / 1% conspiracy to discredit someone because tHeY tElL tHE TRutH is totally full of shit.

Especially when that ‘truth’ is purportedly uncovering the ‘MSM’ that they have made their money through, and still do.

Even less so when they are part of the very establishment they claim to be ‘uncovering’.

And even less when they talk as much shit and use words so poorly as RB. Baroque indeed.

The fact that they are known to be deeply problematic and utterly misogynistic is the (popped) cherry on top of a very shitty sundae.

Bingbangbongbash · 24/09/2023 18:25

Winnipeg23 · 24/09/2023 18:14

How many men use every opportunity they have to satisfy their lists?
I don't know but id guess a lot.
I personally don't like Russell brand so I'm not defending what he has or hasn't done. I'd imagine a drug and sex addict would have done quite a lot of 'bad stuff'. None of which is acceptable.

HOWEVER he is being targeted. 100%.
Those in charge don't care about the victims I believe, they care about what he is saying on his channel and the popularity it has.

Control!

That's my tuppence worth. Take it or leave it.

We better watch we don't shut down freedom.of speech at the same time.

So he’s free to speak but the women he assaulted aren’t?

He’s uncovering truth, they are lying to smear him.

Got it.

I think you should ask for your money back - that wasn’t worth tuppence.

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/09/2023 18:28

Winnipeg23 · 24/09/2023 18:14

How many men use every opportunity they have to satisfy their lists?
I don't know but id guess a lot.
I personally don't like Russell brand so I'm not defending what he has or hasn't done. I'd imagine a drug and sex addict would have done quite a lot of 'bad stuff'. None of which is acceptable.

HOWEVER he is being targeted. 100%.
Those in charge don't care about the victims I believe, they care about what he is saying on his channel and the popularity it has.

Control!

That's my tuppence worth. Take it or leave it.

We better watch we don't shut down freedom.of speech at the same time.

Those in charge don't care about the victims...
I'm with you on that. As are our appalling statistics wrt rape, sexual assault and VAWG.

...they care about what he's saying on his channel and the popularity he has.
No, they don't care about that either. They really don't give a shit about Russell Brand.

Bingbangbongbash · 24/09/2023 18:29

Jumpingthruhoops · 24/09/2023 18:20

Oh, I agree. Their identities should absolutely be protected because of those problems you cite. Which is the exact reason why the identity of the accused should also be protected until they have actually been charged/found guilty of something. Regardless of whether you like the accused.

Also, I do think 'conspiracy theorist' (which RB has been called) has become a really lazy term; just thrown about to try and silence those who dare to challenge the preferred narrative. And, whether you want to acknowledge it or not, there IS a preferred narrative.

I'm genuinely interested to understand which of RB's YT videos people are specifically referring to? All the ones I've seen, he is merely discussing reports from respected journals/organisations - that those in power would rather the masses didn't see. These aren't 'conspiracy theories'.

But if there is something I've missed, please do share. Thanks.

I’m not going to waste my valuable time watching his rants, but why on earth would he become a target if he’s simply regurgitating existing science? Also, just how much science training does he have? I don’t think injecting skag counts as medical training.

Againstmachine · 24/09/2023 18:35

SatsumaNightmare · 24/09/2023 18:04

You really think all six million people are full of shit? That maybe, just maybe, there are people who are curious or want to learn more or widen their perspectives by listening to something they may not agree with to see what it’s about? Instead you want to dismiss them as quacks. Yet at the same time you expect everyone to instantly believe the random accounts of four anonymous people.

Fascinating.

Having tried to conversing with some of these people yes they are full of shit an full on in his conspiracy, also I've noticed many who are from the USA so that explains a large number of nutters.

SatsumaNightmare · 24/09/2023 18:40

Againstmachine · 24/09/2023 18:35

Having tried to conversing with some of these people yes they are full of shit an full on in his conspiracy, also I've noticed many who are from the USA so that explains a large number of nutters.

Your prejudice is astounding

SatsumaNightmare · 24/09/2023 18:40

Anyone have any thoughts on what Rose McGowan has said about the anonymity thing? I thought that was very interesting - that she sees it as a huge red flag.

Marchitectmummy · 24/09/2023 18:53

BlurredEdges · 24/09/2023 10:14

Are you a politician?

It's a yes or no question.

Goodness leave her alone. You are clearly passionate about your view but your point is being weakened by this aggression.

Againstmachine · 24/09/2023 18:54

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Wills · 24/09/2023 18:56

OK, so two things. Firstly have never liked the arrogant piece of over inflated masculine shit that somehow makes BJ look positively cute and therefore can't understand why he became popular or managed to remain so. But secondly, from what I've interpreted from others who have had the vague desire (possibly required through work) to read his storyline, he's never hidden what a misogonistic (sp?) little git he is. Why now? He's practically ridden on the wave of being a hateful woman debasing bastard all his life.

Its5656 · 24/09/2023 18:56

Jumpingthruhoops
Oh, I agree. Their identities should absolutely be protected because of those problems you cite. Which is the exact reason why the identity of the accused should also be protected until they have actually been charged/found guilty of something. Regardless of whether you like the accused.

@Jumpingthruhoops

There is a reason why the accused is named. Examples ..

12 years ago a good friend of mine reported an historic rape. Happened over 30 years ago so very little evidence (once a search of his house was done evidence was found)
By naming the accused in the local paper 16 more people come forward. The accused was found guilty and was sentenced to 30+ years.

I am going to court against my abuser this year. He hasn't been found guilty yet but fingers crossed. I knew nothing about the legalities of a court case but so far this is what I've been told.
Do I want an open or closed court?
If I choose open he can bring whoever he wants to support him so wife/children/family although I doubt he wants them hearing the sordid details.
If I choose to have a closed court he doesn't get to have anyone but neither do I except a journalist. One solo journalist is entitled to listen in regardless because the public have a right to know that the criminal justice system is working.
I am entitled to life long anonymity. He is not.

Sometimes free speech is all sexual abuse victims have there word against another's.
By naming the accused this enables the police to gather evidence that previously may not have been the case. I believe since this broke that more women have come forward. Women who before this May have believed they were the only ones so saw no point.
Of course this runs the risk of someone innocent being named and shamed but although awful (and without evidence that person has no real risk of actually being charged) There is a far higher chance that the victim is in fact telling the truth and in speaking out will get justice.

Wills · 24/09/2023 18:58

Ahhhh, thought I'd read all the way through and so haven't - sorry MN! So his popularity is kept afloat by those gun totting red necks in parts of the US that must love interbreeding!

threatmatrix · 24/09/2023 19:00

Where’s your proof? Do you know him? I’d rather wait for him to have a trial.

threatmatrix · 24/09/2023 19:01

Until it’s proven he’s innocent.

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