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To think that no matter where you go on holiday there's always annoying loud twats

193 replies

SleeplessinSeattle53 · 21/09/2023 09:38

We're staying in a very expensive 5 star resort in Europe. Beautiful, gorgeous views, top notch food and drink. Sat here sipping iced tea and enjoying my book.

Then the family from hell parks themselves next to me. On the beers already, quite possibly already drunk. (it's early). Proceed to have very loud conversation peppered with lots of 'fucks' which everyone around the pool can hear. Do these people have no self awareness? I mean, I know I could move but I'm comfy now and why should I?

First world problem, I know. Maybe villa holidays are the way forward.

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BlowDryRat · 21/09/2023 10:43

Money can't buy class.

There are awful people who ruin others' holidays no matter where you go or how much you pay. An interview system is the only way, but it depends who's doing the interviewing!

SleeplessinSeattle53 · 21/09/2023 10:44

MartinChuzzlewit · 21/09/2023 10:41

I don’t mind people drinking early but our last holiday has the people next to us come back from reception and one bellowed to the other “Yeah I asked about the coach and we’ve got the time wrong haha I felt like a right stupid cunt”. My 10yo and 6yo then asked me what a cunt is 🙄 vile inconsiderate pricks.

No class. Agree - drink what you like. Just don't be a twat.

Will be opening my resort to applications in due course.

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PatsWoggle · 21/09/2023 10:45

SisterMichaelsHabit · 21/09/2023 09:45

No I've never experienced this on holiday, I've only heard about it on MN. But we tend not to go to tourist traps and have never done a package holiday or similar.

Hate to say it but this probably means you are the annoying family!

Polis · 21/09/2023 10:51

Does everyone on MN really go to non tourist resorts containing remote gites on holiday? Really?

Don’t go to a resort.

We tend to rent houses when we go away but it isn’t a guarantee of peace and quiet. The countryside can be very noisy at times too.

SparkyBlue · 21/09/2023 10:52

@ManateeFair 100% agree. It's not always a drunken related thing. Some people are just really annoying.
Then are people like my mum who think they are everyone's friend but who stick their noses into everyone's business in a really intrusive way. She had a bad year so we took her on holidays with us and myself and DH were dying of shame at her antics.
It's funny you posted this today OP as four year old DD was playing "kids club " with her dolls this morning before pre school so whether I like it or not I'll have to go back to an all singing and dancing AI hotel again this year as DD hasn't shut up about it since we came home in July

Cockmigrant · 21/09/2023 10:54

The only place you don't get them is if you are wild camping in the middle of nowhere. I do long distance trekking mainly in Norway. I spend days on end in the wilderness. No twats.
However after several days I often start thinking mmm would be nice to stay in a hut tonight, start looking forward to it, few home comforts etc.
And then I get to a hut, might be lucky and there be no one else there, but quite often there will be a loud obnoxious twat or couple or group of twats and then I can't wait to get back in the tent again the next night.

I used to do treks from the hut to hut in the Alps but over the 25 years I've been doing this the clientele has changed from quiet, hikers and mountain climbers to loud, instagram-posting, performative knobs of various kinds, dressed up to the nines in top-notch gear, constantly shouting about their prowess and how great they are. That's why I prefer Scandinavia these days - you can legally wild camp...

And then there are the FFH in these huts -very bad in the Alps, Scandinavian is better as they don't seem to do the performance parenting as much, nor do they push their kids past their limits. Far too many pushy parents dragging their kids on routes that are unsuitable, performance parenting, massive discussions about every last bloody thing, loud and noisy, coupled with very whingey kids. Why are the kids whingey? Because they are being forced to do hikes which are just too much for them. It's ridiculous.

Rant over

Strugglingtodomybest · 21/09/2023 10:55

SleeplessinSeattle53 · 21/09/2023 09:53

I think there may be a gap in the market for a chain of exclusive hotels where you have to pass an interview prior to booking to prove you're not a twat. May pitch it to Dragons Den, just need a spare 100 million or so to get started.

I'm in! I can offer you £10 for 90% of your company. What do you reckon?

SleeplessinSeattle53 · 21/09/2023 10:55

@Strugglingtodomybest erm I'm not sure that's going to work as a business model...

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Justaredherring · 21/09/2023 10:59

Thing is, OP, for your resort you need the quiet abd harnless book readers (moi) but you need to get a good mix of other types too, without veering into ‘obnoxious wanker’ territory, or there’ll be no good people watching. Challenging

afaloren · 21/09/2023 11:00

We don’t go abroad anymore for this reason. We call these types of people The Grims.

Go to cottages in the UK now. You don’t get waited on and you have to pay for your booze but it’s blessedly peaceful! My last holiday abroad was in 2016 and I almost flew home early, it was awful.

Dwappy · 21/09/2023 11:00

I get it no matter where I go. Holiday. Cinema. Restaurant. Pub. Train.
Last week I was in a Macdonald's (yes I know it's hardly the classiest place going!) But we went to sit downstairs which was HUGE and totally empty at that moment. Big group of "lads" come down 5 mins after us and sat at the table next to us. Throwing food about. ("Urgh that chip is fucking disgusting" and lobbing it across the room). Swearing. Banging chairs about.
If I see any groups of annoying people in the distance I can practically guarantee they'll come and sit next to me. No matter where it is. I just move now.

TolkiensFallow · 21/09/2023 11:04

Who are you booking with? If it’s booked through a big company or big resort area thats purely been developed for tourism then the twat likelihood is much higher.

Fbshe · 21/09/2023 11:06

In theory then all the “tourist traps” should be empty then OP and your problem fixed. All the exclusive middle of nowhere places would be rammed because everyone is flung there instead. Hope they settle down.

KimberleyClark · 21/09/2023 11:06

afaloren · 21/09/2023 11:00

We don’t go abroad anymore for this reason. We call these types of people The Grims.

Go to cottages in the UK now. You don’t get waited on and you have to pay for your booze but it’s blessedly peaceful! My last holiday abroad was in 2016 and I almost flew home early, it was awful.

Oh yes cottage holidays are bliss.

Trickofthetrade · 21/09/2023 11:21

Also bloody kids on ipads or phones wtth the sound turned up while the rest of us are trying to enjoy a meal we have paid good money for . This drives me nuts and have asked to move table before . Also the same on planes or trains . I don't understand the audacity and selfishness of it. Means I have to wear headphones just to drown out the noise . F sake.

Dramatico · 21/09/2023 11:23

Yep. Posh people are the WORST for this. DH and I were on hols in August and there was a super posh Surrey stockbroking family type who didn't seem to understand that no one else around the pool wanted to hear about Izzy's forthcoming gap yah (in south east Asia should you be interested; I still unwillingly recall the whole itinerary), what Georgia's been 'discovering about herself' recently, and daddy Hugo's vair important job which means that he has to constantly take phone calls from work (which he conducted so loudly that I'm not sure the phone was actually needed). All in decibel-shattering ruffly waffly sounding home counties accents.

Nothing can ever compare to the upper middle class's total absence of self awareness.

On a bright note it meant we made friends with another, thankfully normal, couple staying at the resort who also couldn't stand Posh Loud Twat Family. We've got arrangements to meet this said couple for a meal in a couple of weeks :-)

Ohhelpicantthinkofaname · 21/09/2023 11:26

For the first time this year there were no loud annoying people at our hotel. It wasn’t even expensive! Win.

SleeplessinSeattle53 · 21/09/2023 11:34

Dramatico · 21/09/2023 11:23

Yep. Posh people are the WORST for this. DH and I were on hols in August and there was a super posh Surrey stockbroking family type who didn't seem to understand that no one else around the pool wanted to hear about Izzy's forthcoming gap yah (in south east Asia should you be interested; I still unwillingly recall the whole itinerary), what Georgia's been 'discovering about herself' recently, and daddy Hugo's vair important job which means that he has to constantly take phone calls from work (which he conducted so loudly that I'm not sure the phone was actually needed). All in decibel-shattering ruffly waffly sounding home counties accents.

Nothing can ever compare to the upper middle class's total absence of self awareness.

On a bright note it meant we made friends with another, thankfully normal, couple staying at the resort who also couldn't stand Posh Loud Twat Family. We've got arrangements to meet this said couple for a meal in a couple of weeks :-)

LOL. This place is full of those types as well. Gives us something to talk about, I suppose!

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askmenow · 21/09/2023 11:36

phoenixrosehere · 21/09/2023 09:48

YANBU

Loud people annoy me. There is no need to talk loud enough that everyone can hear your conversation word for word in a large space (barring medical issues). If I can’t block you out with my in-ear earphones without hurting my own hearing trying to drown you out, you are too loud.

I'm conscious I really talk loudly and clearly when out and about but it becomes a habit Ive been trained into given I live with OH who is very hard of hearing.
I try to moderate the loudness but when you're driven to repeat everything three times, so your partner can hear, you soon form the habit of loud speech or I'd lose my mind!

pammyp · 21/09/2023 11:38

Always, wherever you go. They never know the 'rules' of polite society and how to behave. Seem oblivious to their surroundings.

LemonQuiche · 21/09/2023 11:38

I once spent 4 days in Bologna and didn’t encounter any twats. It was midweek, lovely weather, very few obvious tourists.

blobby10 · 21/09/2023 11:41

Used to happen to us on our camping holidays in Cornwall!! Go to the beach early, pick a spot well out of the way of other people cos, you know, 2 adults, 3 children, 2 dogs - potential for annoyance to other people. Pitched our windbreak in a semi-circle so the dogs had somewhere shady to lie or I had somewhere to sit out of the usual gale force wind, within half an hour, there would be another family hammering in their windbreaks (always two or three) 6" from ours! They were always noisy, smokers, with umpteen cool boxes of food and drink and there was always acres of lovely sand to choose from so why pitch so close to us?!

MintJulia · 21/09/2023 11:44

I've solved that one. Don't use hotels, rent a villa or cottage. I'll happily make my own breakfast if it allows us some peace.

I do my best to avoid budget airlines too although BA has their fair share of noisy customers.

sunglassesonthetable · 21/09/2023 11:46

Never had this problem, but then we don't go to "5-star resorts". A lovely gite somewhere in the Auvergne or the Haute Provence is more our thing. You have to be a bit careful picking ski resorts though, it's best to go somewhere that isn't really a "beginner" station to avoid the idiots.

Cos the poshos who can already ski, are NEVER twats. 🙄

StarbucksSmarterSister · 21/09/2023 11:46

SleeplessinSeattle53 · 21/09/2023 10:01

Does everyone on MN really go to non tourist resorts containing remote gites on holiday? Really?

No. But I do go to less obviously touristy places, never go AI or big hotels (choose family run or "boutique" max 50 rooms instead).

It's not foolproof but it reduces the likelihood of meeting those types.

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