To think this just sums up XL Bully owners?

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Look North last night. Peter Levy is interviewing a woman who owns two XL Bullys. Both cropped and docked which she says happened in another country before she got them (yeah, course it did).

Peter asks her “so why do people want these dogs in the first place, what’s the attraction for you?”

She replies “well I wanted dogs that were good with kids and famines and stuff so we got XL Bully’s cos they’re great with kids”

Wtf? If I didn’t know better I’d swear this was a spoof interview. Good with kids and families?? These dogs have been responsible for the most human deaths in dog attacks in the UK in recent years!!! Just last week an 11 year CHILD was attacked by one of these dogs … so when looking for a child friendly dog she bypasses the golden retriever etc and goes for the breed with the biggest track record of killing humans …

He then asked her if she will comply with the muzzle when the laws are changed - she said NO.

Then the cherry on the cake … he asked her “would you leave your child alone with these dogs?” And she said “yes, absolutely. I leave my two year old alone with them all the time whilst I’m busy making dinner etc”

Honestly the interview couldn’t have been any more gobsmacking.

This just sums up XL bully owners doesn’t it? Thick as pig shit with no regard to their own safety or the safety of others.

A total over reaction. Can you seriously imagine the police taking it seriously? "Hello, I would like to report someone on the internet saying they have their XL bully off lead (which at the moment, there are no laws restricting them). Can you send some police round to arrest them?"
Makes a mockery of the people who struggle to get the police to take them seriously for actual crimes.

@NorthernsouloldiesI gave very detailed answers to @oakleaffy on page 25 of this thread which they have chosen to ignore and dismiss.

The bottom line is that there have been marches about the current BSL laws by other groups since MAY, marches which up until last weekends in London have been completely ignored by the press and public at large, since day one they have never NEVER allowed any dogs on their marches, there are a couple of reasons for this one very important one is that these marches are loud an no-one is going to put their dogs through that type of trauma, (not even nanny dogs) not because they 'know' they have hell hounds that will rip someone's throat out because ANY dog MAY to react when scared or overwhelmed. Organisers of the anti BSL groups have reached out to the bully walkers in Birmingham because they have experience in holding marches and told them not to do it. There will be other marches by the anti BSL groups who will NOT have their dogs with them, I am going on a vigil today which will be peaceful with no shouting or marching and even then we have told people no dogs.

And yet the upcoming protest in Birmingham is encouraging owners to bring their xl bullies if they're under a year old. It's just the full grown version that needs to be left at home.

So which bit was bollocks?

Your just said what I said but in more paragraphs

@MrTiddlesTheCat Did you read what I said? the marches that have been going on since may have never allowed dogs and the organisers of the bully walks are not part of the anti BSL movement but are doing this on their own and have been condemned by the organised groups

@OneTC What you said ' I think the fact they had a rally in support of their lovely friendly dogs but everyone had to leave them at home because it would have been a fucking blood bath tells you everything you need to know''

Now I repeat last weeks rally was just one of the rallies that have been going on since MAY, organised by groups against current BSL it was the 4th in Central London and rallies have been held in Manchester, Edinburgh, Birmingham, Portsmouth Southampton, Liverpool in fact up and down the country however it was the first to be reported by the press and commented on by the wider general public, there was no 'decision' not to take dogs to the London rally, because the decision not to take dogs had already been made from the very beginning and reiterated every single time a new rally is advertised NO DOGS. There will be other rallies today by the anti BSL groups and there will be no dogs there for the reasons I have explained The Bully walk in Birmingham are wrong to let even puppies attend and have been widely condemned by the anti BSL groups but of course that walk will be the one to get all the headlines even if nothing goes wrong. I am going to a peaceful vigil today, no marching, no whistles no shouting but it could still be stressful for dogs so again then rule is no dogs just has its been since May.

Wow what horrible people to be marching against keeping children safe. They all know the dogs are dangerous, any dog that can't be around other dogs is unsafe.
There really need to be dog parks so humans who want to be safe with kids can go to outdoor places in peace.

Yeah so now you've just managed to repeat what I said in more paragraphs. I don't care when they decided that bringing the dogs would result in a bloodbath, the fact is they've decided that, you're not allowed to bring your dogs, to one protest, to 20 protests is irrelevant to the point I'm making.

Otherwise please, organise a nice quiet one with no whistles and 200XLs in a park somewhere (far away) and let us know how it goes

@OneTC Don't you like paragraphs? oh dear sorry about that got a few more for you.

The decision not to take dogs was not because people know it would end up in a bloodbath and you can keep saying you disagree with me but that fact will not change. However more about that in another paragraph.

As I stated I was at a peaceful standing protest/vigil yesterday part of other vigils/rallies being held by opponents of current BSL including another one in central London (none of these were reported by the press although all well attended) our advertising said no dogs however there were people with dogs who stopped by curious about our banners, when this happened we greeted the owners and dogs (we had treats) away from the main event, explained what we were doing and why we were there and invited them to join us on our next one without their dogs no-one had any problems with that and I must admit I did rather fall in love with a staffy puppy.

Of course there was a lot of talk among the visitors and attendees about why dogs have never been allowed at our vigils/protests and it was agreed it's too scary for ANY dog to be caught up in that, one lady who has a staffy/boxer cross did take her dog to a pride event with noise whistles and drums she said her dog was petrified and she would never put him through anything like that again.

There will be other vigils which I will attend and help organise but they will be within the rules of the group and there will be NO DOGS let alone 200 bullies so sorry to disappoint you it won't happen just to satisfy you.

Everyone knows XL Bullies are sound unstable- and very easily triggered.

A woman had her thumb bitten off by her gentle soft lump as she thought it was
and the dog swallowed her thumb

the XL then savaged her husband a few days later- He feared for his life.

These are very volatile unstable dogs with a hair-trigger aggression response.

The original flyers for Brum event wanted xls and children to come along.

It had to ask the owners to bring g poo bags which says a lot

Most responsible owners carry those as standard, without the request.

”NO DOGS let alone 200 bullies” 😉

DH and I had a really odd encounter just this morning with a man who had an XL Bully puppy. He actually stopped us to ask about our dog who is a very striking, unusually coloured, unusually large greyhound. Our dog is unusual so does get quite a lot of friendly attention but normally people just want to ask if he used to race etc. The man with the puppy seemed mesmerised by our dog and straight away said - “What is THAT? You could make a fortune breeding from him” and could he take a picture 🫤We explained that he was neutered by the rescue but the man didn’t seem to understand. When the man was out of earshot DH pointed out that he was drunk/ high, as he was swaying and just odd.

To be polite we asked about his puppy and he muttered the breed under his breath and said “I got her 2 weeks before the ban, it’s never the dog it’s the owner, she’ll never be aggressive, aggressive owners should be neutered” but all the while staring mesmerised at our dog. I quietly, calmly went to pet his puppy who’d been bouncing around, and she cringed away from my hand, and looked so scared that it was actually quite sad.

I just found it so odd that his thoughts turned immediately to money and that the puppy was so afraid of my hand. I hope we don’t meet them when the dog’s bigger to be honest. The puppy was stunning, beautifully cuddly looking with green eyes, I’m sure this must attract some people who are clueless to its needs.

This woman has an horrendous injury from an XL {Viewer discretion advised}

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12570105/XL-Bully-ARM-Dog-walker-life-changing-injuries-savage-beast.html

Greys are beautiful dogs.
Greyhounds are some of the worst abused dog breeds out there- the Macau Canidrome dogs were raced with osteosarcoma, with appalling tooth decay that rotted bone , and lived their lives in concrete cells whacked by lengths of hose by poorly paid staff-

IF it was the ''Owner not the breed'' Greyhounds would be raging- but they are not.

Yes, a lot are are hardwired to chase small squirrels , but they are very docile loving dogs despite appalling pain and cruelty.

Macau Hound in picture in concrete cell.

{Thankfully closed down - and all hounds were re-homed}

None have been aggressive despite what they have endured.

Thank you @oakleaffy - you make a very good point about the poor treatment of greyhounds. Ours is an absolute darling, despite being beaten, deprived of socialisation and raced to the point of breaking, so that his joints resemble those of a dog twice his age. He has two broken teeth from chewing on the bars of a cage, at a UK racing facility. We are determined to make his retirement supremely comfortable for him.

I would encourage anyone to consider a rescue greyhound, they ask very little and give so much. Our rescue centre always reminds us that when you rescue one it actually helps two dogs, because an adoption frees up a space for a new dog to be rescued from a trainer. I would also encourage anyone who does to stop supporting greyhound racing. It’s an exploitative, money orientated industry, which treats 1,000s of dogs in the UK alone as expendable cannon fodder. And yes blah blah, I know there are some trainers who are fond of the dogs but there are many more who are cruel, and involved in organised crime.

There is a man near us who walks a pack of 6+ XL puppies. He looks like a disinterested stoner, go figure.

Greyhounds are treated abysmally but when people say it is the owner, not the dog they do not mean bad owners = kicking the shit out of their pets. Greyhounds are exercised regularly, they are socialised with other dogs and people and they are worked and fed to schedule.

Bad owners are not necessarily violent rather they do not understand or are unable to adequately meet their dog's needs. Bull breeds are working dogs. They need a lot of physical and mental stimulation to keep them balanced.

@ehupo7 oh dear don't try to make something out of that, when you organise a standing protest or a vigil you have to have permission from the police which obviously incudes the area where you want it to be, you are NOT allowed to move from that area or restrict public right of way otherwise it can be shut down, now as everyone says bullies are BIG dogs to have 200 big dogs and their owners and the general public who may want to see what's going on you are going to have to have a very large area which is virtually impossible in a town or city setting

I don’t need to make something out of that.

XL Bullies are temperamentally unsuitable to have as pets and this combined with their size, strength, stamina makes them a danger to humans.

That’s why there have been 9 deaths in 2 years (not to mention the numerous attacks on humans and dead and maimed pets), and that is why they are going to be banned.

No one is going to listen to you because none of what you are saying is as important as the adults and children who have been (and who are going to be) killed and attacked. There will be more deaths and attacks to come. But hopefully in 5 and 10 years the problem will be on its way out.

This is a once ''Pro Pitbull /XL advocate'' who has now completely changed her mind.

Very interesting video.

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/04/man-killed-by-dog-believed-to-be-xl-bully-near-sunderland

Another one…man has throat torn out while apparently protecting his own dog.

Couldn’t possibly be the bullys fault though according to social media 🙄

@oakleaffy they always look so happy when they're attacking, like they're having the best time ever.

You are not going to get a lead around your dog’s neck in the middle of a dogfight… Have you ever seen a dog getting attacked by another?

We should ignore the genetics of the animals we chose to bring into our homes. We had a spaniel and a lab, both working dogs from working lines. Both these dogs would've been an absolute pain in the arse, at best, if they weren't exercised, trained and kept in a manner that meets their needs.
The problem isn't the breed - there are plenty of 'big' breeds with traits that lead to protection and guarding. The problem is the majority of individuals who want to own them will not exercise, train and meet there needs. I have no doubt that there are lovely ones out there and good owners, it's just that they are so popular with a certain sector who don't understand them. Unfair on the dogs and dangerous for the people around them.

The reason we can't all have machine guns is because some people, not everyone, will use them irresponsibly and innocent people will be killed. The easiest way to prevent this is to let nobody have them. You'll notice we're allowed to own air rifles, cos no one's going on a rampage with an air rifle.

People arguing in favour of weapons grade dogs being in public ownership are just like American gun nuts.