To think this just sums up XL Bully owners?

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Look North last night. Peter Levy is interviewing a woman who owns two XL Bullys. Both cropped and docked which she says happened in another country before she got them (yeah, course it did).

Peter asks her “so why do people want these dogs in the first place, what’s the attraction for you?”

She replies “well I wanted dogs that were good with kids and famines and stuff so we got XL Bully’s cos they’re great with kids”

Wtf? If I didn’t know better I’d swear this was a spoof interview. Good with kids and families?? These dogs have been responsible for the most human deaths in dog attacks in the UK in recent years!!! Just last week an 11 year CHILD was attacked by one of these dogs … so when looking for a child friendly dog she bypasses the golden retriever etc and goes for the breed with the biggest track record of killing humans …

He then asked her if she will comply with the muzzle when the laws are changed - she said NO.

Then the cherry on the cake … he asked her “would you leave your child alone with these dogs?” And she said “yes, absolutely. I leave my two year old alone with them all the time whilst I’m busy making dinner etc”

Honestly the interview couldn’t have been any more gobsmacking.

This just sums up XL bully owners doesn’t it? Thick as pig shit with no regard to their own safety or the safety of others.

This surprised me as well.
Assistant may be the reason.

A Vet.would know the severity of an RTA leading to terrible injuries to off leash dogs.

Even in supermarket car parks where the speed limit is meant to be 5 mph large off leash dogs have sustained serious injuries.

How do you feel about treating them, knowing it's so difficult to control them ? Id not like to have to do it

I was reading about an upcoming xl bull protest in support of said dogs. The organisers ask that participants do not bring their dogs or children. If these dogs are so lovey dovey nanny dogs why not bring them.... Probably because the organisers know it would be carnage.

The organiser is quoted here:

Copy and pasted from Birmingham Live:

Mr Harris told BirminghamLive today, September 27, that the gathering of XL Bully owners would take place in Handsworth Park, just a few minutes drive from the bustling Soho Road. Asked about whether his plans had attracted much interest, he said: "Yeah, I keep seeing it on people's stories."
He said that XL Bullies under six-months-old would still be allowed to attend the event. On why only puppies were now being allowed to the event, Mr Harris told the BBC last week: "The simple fact is I don't want no camera taking pictures of a dog that's barking to go play with another dog because social media has this power to do numbers - they can portray this whole meet off one picture.
"So if you want to come and you want to bring a dog, bring a puppy. Don't bring no big, full-grown dog. It's not going to be one of them actual meets, it's turned into more of a protest."

So he knows...it would indeed be carnage with large dogs.

And another savage attack on a child here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-66948333

The one I read about was an upcoming one in Glasgow, take your point about the Bham one, same outcome.

I know right!!! It really astounds me that people buy ‘branded’ dogs to order rather than choosing from one of the abandoned dogs already in existence. I think it’s completely f*ed up.

I think Oakleaf meant specifically RTAs involving dogs

We had a ''Rescue dog of year{ finalist }'' an abandoned Lurcher from RSPCA -
But not everyone can pass the strict requirements for a UK rescue dog.
They are very strict...no young children, very secure garden, owner physically and emotionally capable of looking after an abandoned dog- they do come with 'Issues'-
Even our vet couldn't get a rescue dog despite being allowed to bring him to work with her- it's that strict in some cases.

It's probably this way for a reason, though.

What is shocking is people buying from online ads -and idiots back yard breeding for easy money.

So you mean collisions involving dogs occur because the dog is off leash? That makes sense.

And the generally accepted term is RTC - road traffic collision. This recognises the fact that these things are preventable. An 'accident' implies some sort of out of control act of god. 'Collision' makes it clear that there is agency.

Vets call them RTA's - I didn't invent the terminology.

She is one of the ‘I prefer dogs to kids’ brigade.

Wtf is going on with sentencing?
That woman has a 9 month suspended sentence for what I see as deliberate murder of the 4 tear old, she knew that dog was out of control.

The other article where yhe 13yr old boy has chunks out of his legs from the mini one, dog pts no further action. Wtf? The dad who left his teenager at home alone with a friend should be in prison and social services involved with the other kids.

I thought the law said it was assault if a dog bites but the owners literally get away with murder daily.

Anyone who owns one of these is a potential murderer.

Also think mn need to consider reporting the posters who say these things are ok / they let them around their kids etc, ok to be off lead next to a primary school and insinuating people who don't let these things off lead are bad owners, to the police.

I know you didn't invent the term but you seemed to be implying that 'RTC' was wrong. It's the more up to date term and increasingly preferred over RTA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafficcollision#:~:text=This%20is%20because%20the%20term,design%2C%20or%20other%20preventable%20factors.

It's almost certain that all rtc involving dogs are because the dog was on the road when it should not have been.

Mere semantics.

We are talking here about dangerously out of control dogs, and irresponsible owners not having {any} type of dog leashed around traffic.

Take it up with RCVS if you are that bothered.

Yes makes sense! I guess I just don’t really agree with breeding to sell 🤷🏻

I think the phrase you're looking for @oakleaffy is 'oh, thanks, I didn't know that. That's interesting'.

Not really, when the accepted term is ''Road traffic accident'' when an animal is injured or killed.

I don't either 👍 -It's so often at the cost of animal welfare.

I think you're being unnecessarily pedantic here.

I'm aware of RTC being the more modern term and have heard it used sporadically but in practice, RTA is still widely used by many different organisations and professional individuals.

RTA is also an abbreviation that pretty much everyone will recognise and understand - RTC, much less so.

There really wasn't any need to bring this up on a thread where we're discussing the problems with XL Bullys. The precise phraseology is irrelevant to the danger they present, even when discussing the number of incidents with vehicles. We all understand what RTA means and really, that was the point of the initial comment you're quibbling about.

@SpidersAreShitheads I wasn't initially bothered about it. It was another poster who pulled me up on at. And you're now extending the discussion. That apparently you don't want to have.

God, that’s brought tears to my eyes reading about that little boy’s life after the attack in @oakleaffy’s link.

Crying out about the dog in his sleep, and couldn’t go to school because he didn’t want anyone to look at his scarred face. Four years old. 🥺

Not even mentioning the excruciating vet bills involved with looking after grossly interbred, medically problematic‘purebreds’. My campdog is 13 years old and eats poisonous toads for fun. Never once had to take her to the vet 🤣🤣