To think this just sums up XL Bully owners?

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Look North last night. Peter Levy is interviewing a woman who owns two XL Bullys. Both cropped and docked which she says happened in another country before she got them (yeah, course it did).

Peter asks her “so why do people want these dogs in the first place, what’s the attraction for you?”

She replies “well I wanted dogs that were good with kids and famines and stuff so we got XL Bully’s cos they’re great with kids”

Wtf? If I didn’t know better I’d swear this was a spoof interview. Good with kids and families?? These dogs have been responsible for the most human deaths in dog attacks in the UK in recent years!!! Just last week an 11 year CHILD was attacked by one of these dogs … so when looking for a child friendly dog she bypasses the golden retriever etc and goes for the breed with the biggest track record of killing humans …

He then asked her if she will comply with the muzzle when the laws are changed - she said NO.

Then the cherry on the cake … he asked her “would you leave your child alone with these dogs?” And she said “yes, absolutely. I leave my two year old alone with them all the time whilst I’m busy making dinner etc”

Honestly the interview couldn’t have been any more gobsmacking.

This just sums up XL bully owners doesn’t it? Thick as pig shit with no regard to their own safety or the safety of others.

I have dogs and walk them twice a day in lots of different places. I have met quite a few XL Bully owners and their dogs. Some of these people are decent and their dogs are lovely. Some of them are not and their dogs are unfortunate to be owned by them.

They are awfully ugly too

No, we aren't all the same. To assume that all dogs of a certain breed because of a number of animals who have been dismally raised and not trained is absolutely moronic.

Yes, they're big, powerful dogs. Yes, that makes them more susceptible to be used as status symbols by some bottom-dwelling members of the human race. They're also extremely intelligent, loving dogs who are eager to please and easy to train if you put the time and effort in that you should put into owning any dog.

I'm university educated and work in a professional, skilled role. I was gifted my XL by some very good friends who had an accidental litter and who refused to let the pups go to anyone who wouldn't train them, love them, and be completely responsible. I've been around dogs my entire life and she's genuinely one of the best I've known. I also took the time to train my children in how to behave around dogs and how to read their behaviour, and they can handle her as well as I can.

She's been spayed, she's always on her lead in public - not because she's ever shown any threatening behaviour, but because I recognise that she can seem intimidating to people - and when the time comes I will always have a muzzle on her in public.

So there's your reason; no doubt you'll come back with some inane argument or unsubstantiated claim to try and prove me wrong, because that's what people like you do. But you're wrong.

YABVU to tar all types of dog owner with one brush, just like you WBU to say “all chihuahua owner have fake tits and false nails”

my uncle ran kennels for nearly 15 years and was bitten twice in that time. Both times by Labradors.

While I agree that leaving any dog along with a 2 year old is not a good idea, I think keep your faux concern cum judgement to yourself.

(coming from a terrier owner before anyone accuses me of being an XL Bully breeder or something)

I know someone with three and he always said they wouldn’t hurt anyone, however he had to have one put down when out of no where it bit his wife!

She’s deluded and all owners like her are. Not a braincell between them

Would you say the same for owners of staffies, Rottweilers, malamutes, German Shepards and collies?

Because at one point in time they were all responsible for many more killings than XL bullies.

Of course the media is going to choose an owner like this idiot, so they can play into gullible people’s hands and make them into a stereotype.

So are you saying these dogs are completely harmless but it’s owners like this idiot that make them dangerous?

Are you saying that if she was someone like Kate Middleton that this dog would be absolutely fine?

I’m trying to work out if you’re blaming the breed or the owner.
If you’re blaming the owner (which is sounds like you are) then you’ve proven a lot of peoples points.

There are SO many lovely breeds, the ONLY reason you get a dog like this is to intimidate others.

One question I would love all bully owners and also dog owners to answer, if you are not keeping your dog on a lead and muzzled in a public place what would you do with your bare hands if for any reason your dog attacked some one or turned.

As with all living creatures they have a biological brain and for what ever reason can snap just as with any human. What realistically would they do to subdue and stop their pet and do they have the strength to so.

I would suggest even smaller dogs in a frenzy the pet owner would be powerless in a frenzy of teeth. So why do they think its acceptable to put any member of public at risk for their own selfish reasons?

That’s totally untrue. Why don’t you read what Twistedex has just written?

Thick as pig shit is so apt for these types.. didn’t see the article, was there the obligatory photo shoot of her kid cuddled up to the killing machine?

I agree OP. Leaving this type of dog with a child is utterly stupidity. I've seen a lot of news articles with bully owners talking about their gentle dog and how it's not fair. I knew a staffie who was gentle and great with kids, until one day it killed another dog in the park. Something kicked in and it became a killer. It was put down.

People need to stop having blind faith in a animal bred to maximise power and aggression.

So many dogs are soft, lovely and great with kids. So many of these are also not built like a fucking brick shit house and you maybe stand a small chance of either standing between them if they try and attack a human/a small chance of pulling them up off the poor fucker they have decided to maul or a victim had a higher chance of not dying from injuries.

So yes I'm also completely flummoxed why someone would choose this particular breed.

Anyone who genuinely either leaves this breed alone with kids or does those stupid posed pics for the Gram with them "cuddling " their kids should not, quite frankly, have either kids or a dog full stop.

Twistedex - you sound like an intelligent and good dog owner but what do you feel when you hear about an XL Bully caused death? Do you believe you have trained your dog to know that if would never attack? Or do you think there is a risk to most things in life and it is one worth taking?

This is not a goady question. I'm genuinely interested in hearing your thoughts.

YANBU OP. Those dogs are absolutely mutant, anyone who wants/has one either needs their heads checking or are arrogant enough to think they can trust a dog like that.

If you want to be scared, Google "dog attack deaths UK"... there's a Wikipedia page.
It lists all deaths for years, and most are pitbulls, bully XLs or staffs.
It's frightening.

I can almost guarantee they went and found the most hideous owner they could to add to their biased interview then.

Did they then go and talk to a responsible owner, who trains and shows their dog, I bet not, because it doesn't support that pov.

Owners are the problem.

I mean leaving your 2 year old alone with any dog isn't a smart thing to do... I wouldn't leave a 2 year old alone with my toy poodle, and she's 4kg and the gentlest dog you'll find.

But if she suddenly pulled you over while on the lead for some unknown reason are you strong enough to control her, stop her doing something like attacking someone? Or are you left in the ground while she’s free to do whatever. Even dogs from good homes that have been well trained can become uncontrollable and do damage, so your comment is stupid. I had a mastiff, I would never take him out on my own because he was too big for me to handle, he was the softest dog I’ve ever had but I wouldn’t risk it!

I really do despair at the attitude of these owners. Leaving the dog alone with her 2 year old? Absolutely insane. I used to be of the opinion that there was no such thing as a bad dog,just bad owners,but after the spate of people killed or seriously injured in recent years by these dogs,I have completely changed that view. There are probably plenty of dog owners who would probably be considered 'bad' who own non- aggressive breeds (labradors, retrievers, spaniels) and you don't hear of these dogs savaging and killing people. Unfortunately,the XL Bully owners won't hear a word against their own particular dog,they are always the exception,as gentle as a lamb, wouldn't hurt a fly. Until it does.

Any dog can snap given the right circumstances. My terrier snapped at my son once because he had toothache and wasn't his usual placid self. DH stepped in immediately, controlled the dog by lifting him up and no harm was done.

If/when a bully xl snaps there's not a cat in hell's chance that these owners can control them. They are stronger than most adult males. How the hell is this woman going to control 2 if they decide to do something awful?

This exactly. I have the sweetest dog ever and can prize his mouth open to retrieve stuff without a murmur. I trust him 100% but I still wouldn't leave him alone with young children.

I wouldn't want one as a pet because I don't particularly like bully breeds. But my last dog was a GSD and 20-30 years ago people would have been saying exactly the same about me as they are about xl bully owners now. Do I think they are a safe breed? No I don't. I think like with any breed some people will want one for the right reasons and train/muzzle it properly. Some people will be absolutely shit at owning one and probably should stick to having a goldfish. My concern is that you never know if a dog will turn no matter how well it's treated and I don't think many people have got a hope in hell of stopping one if it wants to attack.

Taking the fact that it's an XL bully out of it, any dog owner that leaves any dog alone with a child is a bloody idiot.

I’m sure your accountant is lovely, but it is literally bred into the dog. It’s in their DNA. The same way a greyhound will chase after a rabbit, even if it’s never raced before.

There’s no such thing as a gentle XL bully because hundreds of years of breeding have caused them to be violent/reactive dogs. That’s why we see these news stories saying “he was always so gentle until he snapped out of nowhere.”

Everyone knows dogs are bred for certain traits. This is the point of dog breeds. Astounds me be simplicity of the “it’s not the dog it’s the owner” brigade. Often it IS the owner. But it’s always the dog, too.