To think this just sums up XL Bully owners?

[Ozarkz]

Look North last night. Peter Levy is interviewing a woman who owns two XL Bullys. Both cropped and docked which she says happened in another country before she got them (yeah, course it did).

Peter asks her “so why do people want these dogs in the first place, what’s the attraction for you?”

She replies “well I wanted dogs that were good with kids and famines and stuff so we got XL Bully’s cos they’re great with kids”

Wtf? If I didn’t know better I’d swear this was a spoof interview. Good with kids and families?? These dogs have been responsible for the most human deaths in dog attacks in the UK in recent years!!! Just last week an 11 year CHILD was attacked by one of these dogs … so when looking for a child friendly dog she bypasses the golden retriever etc and goes for the breed with the biggest track record of killing humans …

He then asked her if she will comply with the muzzle when the laws are changed - she said NO.

Then the cherry on the cake … he asked her “would you leave your child alone with these dogs?” And she said “yes, absolutely. I leave my two year old alone with them all the time whilst I’m busy making dinner etc”

Honestly the interview couldn’t have been any more gobsmacking.

This just sums up XL bully owners doesn’t it? Thick as pig shit with no regard to their own safety or the safety of others.

@OneTC That's bollocks get your facts right.

The groups that has been campaigning against BSL including the one who held the rally in London last weekend have been holding rallies since MAY this year and they have never NEVER allowed any dogs. Its certainly not a new rule.

There are reasons for this one is that under current BSL laws any dog can be seized if the police believe they are Pitbull types even if they have not been aggressive (and yes I know this has happened) or pose any sort of threat. There is a lot of information that has been put together by law firms who specialise in animal law about what people can do if their dog is seized at home, however it's different in a public area people and their dogs don't have the same protection and the police don't have the same restrictions no-one is going to take their dogs to a rally that will be policed and have their dog seized for being a Pitbull type just because of the way they look

Secondly these rallies are organised, they have marshals and rules that people need to follow but they are LOUD, people bring whistles, horns and anything that can be banged like a drum, people shout and use megaphones, people clap and cheer, any dog will be traumatised, any dog can react in a negative way in that type of scenario, no-one in these groups want to put their dogs through that, in actual fact there is to be a bully walk in Birmingham this weekend (not associated with the anti BSL movement) where the organisers stated they will allow dogs, this has been widely condemned by the organisers of other groups so much so that I believe they have changed their minds now and will only allow puppies and even that is bloody stupid with the press ready to pounce on any incident.

I spoke with my family member. There’s is booked to be spayed and they’ve started one to one obedience class and muzzle training
at least they’re following the proposals but it’s still beyond me why the got it, why it’s 2.5 yrs old and not been ‘done’ …

Agreed..The only reason it hasn't been spayed or castrated is that they considered breeding from it.

These things are a liability.

So a ''Bully march'' is only allowing ''puppies''- because everyone knows Pitbull crosses are dog aggressive- the bloody things fly at other dogs - you bet the press will be there, and the organisers know this, and there would be carnage with the 'Roid rage adults about, slipping their collars, pulling loose from owners who can't hold them.

The police in USA who have had to destroy these XL Bullies {there they are termed ''Pit bulls''describe them as ''Monsters'' - one took TEN bullets to kill it after it slaughtered a four year old.

Walking my dog this morning and a massive XL bully comes trotting around the corner - off lead - this was a car park with shops and a primary school … the bloke who was with it saw me stand still and so he put his dog on a lead (I have a Dobermann - double clipped lead on harness and a face collar). Couldn’t believe he had it off lead let alone near a primary school considering the current situation

I’m not a XL bully defender by any means but - I have seen it recommended to leave dogs until they’re about 2 to be spayed/neutered now, something to do with their development and it having more positive outcomes for behaviour. Not entirely sure anything can result in positive behaviour for that particular breed though, I have to say.

Sadly that does not surprise me at all.

You were lucky your dog wasn't savaged, or you.

XL Bully owners seem to be incredibly careless and bone~headed.

They literally don't give a toss if their dog savages another dog, or lays into a child or adult.

And it's not just the XL's..the smaller ones are just as aggressive the stupidly named ''Pocket bully''

This poor boy had ''Chunks'' bitten from his thigh and legs and needed surgery - and has suffered ever since from trauma.

This attack happened in a ''friend's house'' so even of these brutes were muzzled, the muzzling law won't apply to indoors.

https://www.itv.com/news/central/2023-09-26/there-was-blood-everywhere-boy-13-attacked-by-pocket-bully-dog

Don’t, it doesn’t bare thinking about. They terrify me. It’s literally like seeing someone come around the corner holding a machine gun

@Ozarkz I agree.
I’m terrified for my small Whippet
we had a horrible XL incident- I had to release her and another dog
I was ( am) injured by trying to restrain it
they are built like 🦛 Hippos

It’s hopeless owner was beyond useless.
I carry a stick now, but that would be useless.
A gun doesn’t even stop them
a you tube vid shows one flapping about for about 5 mins snapping after a shot by police- They are not like normal dogs.
They seem impervious to bullets.

As a life long dog lover/owner I won’t be getting anymore dogs after this one. The anxiety of worrying about having to watch your precious dog being ripped apart by one of these horrible bastards is just too much. I won’t get another dog until these things are no longer on our streets.

I’m just amazed by the breed snobbery in general when it comes to dogs.
the amount of mixed breed dogs desperate for rehoming, or being euthanised due to lack of available homes makes me sick to my core.

anyone spending thousands on $$$$ on a purebred dog (that’s not working it) needs a head and an empathy check.

A bit off topic but in response to the previous posters comment. I also can't fathom the need to import dogs from Europe for rehoming! There are so many needing homes here in the UK. Is there a financial incentive I'm not aware of I wonder?

My XL Bully loves kids.

Can't eat a whole one, though.

Oh and most dogs are mixed breed now. Cockpoo etc 🤣 but people pay a fortune!

Bet it'd have a good go!

A bit off topic but in response to the previous posters comment. I also can't fathom the need to import dogs from Europe for rehoming! There are so many needing homes here in the UK. Is there a financial incentive I'm not aware of I wonder?

I think it's more that many of the local rescue organisations have stricter criteria. I know a rehoming organisation in the Middle East that rehomes cats and dogs to the UK as well as locally there and the bar is generally lower. Also they can offer quite a lot of quite valuable pedigree breeds for adoption that would be less likely to be available from the UK rescues.

@oakleaffy Interesting you only picked up that part of my post (and also ignored the part where I said it has been widely condemned by other dog groups) and not the other parts why didn't you comment on the rest?

The bottom line is you don't take ANY DOG into those types of situations.

I don't have a bully I have 3 Pugs (one who was attacked by a Husky and lost an eye) if I was to say I would not take them on a march with the noise and the crowds I would be called a responsible owner, if a Dalmatian owner or a Weimaraner owner said the same thing, again they would be called a responsible owner, yet this morning I witnessed a very nasty fight between those two breeds it took 3 people to separate the two, yet when a bully owner says the same they are not being a responsible owner they have devil dogs which will kill in a second. The organisers of the established groups will not care if the press are there or not because their dogs will be safe at home where they should be

The dog was off lead and the owner saw you and popped it on a lead, so what was your problem?

He probably saw yours on multiple leads and restraints and probably thought your dog was aggressive.

He obviously lets his dog have time off lead, do you?

It’s just irresponsible doing this on the street.

Parks, woods, beaches and large green spaces, for dogs with good recall – fine.

Urban / pedestrian areas and car parks – not fine.

Besides anything, it puts the dog in danger. This is the case irrespective of breed – if their prey drive kicks in (cat, squirrel) or they’re startled, there’s every chance they will run into the road or under a car. (This happens all the time.) Putting both dog and road users + pedestrians in danger.

Also, irrespective of breed, it’s inconsiderate – not everyone likes dogs, and lots of people are scared of them. If they are off lead they are not under control, and this is unfair in urban settings. It also means that should two dogs react to one another, this disrupts everyone else trying to get past.

And over and above any of that, XL bullies are dangerous dogs and as we know are temperamentally inclined to attack humans and other dogs.

THAT‘S WHY THERE IS A PROPOSAL TO BAN THEM.

Very sensible.
Any dog owner with a loose dog on a public highway is a liability.

How sad that as vet care assistant can’t see the sense in this and disrespects a Doberman owner from keeping hers safely on a lead so he can’t dash into the road and be in a serious accident.

RTAs are almost always off leash dogs.

So you think a car park is an acceptable area for any dog to be ‘off lead’ do you @VeterinaryCareAssistant ?

Yes, but not in a car park outside a primary school because I’m not a moron.

and you’re a veterinary assistant? Jesus Christ

There was a guy in Glasgow last weekend walking up the road in the city centre showing his XL bully off to to the pub bouncers. He was absolutely revelling in the attention. I hadn't seen one before in real life and wasn't prepared for how massive it was. He was proclaiming how friendly the dog was and it was just low level growling. We took a big detour into the road to avoid them.

RTAs are almost always off leash dogs.

Can you clarify that statement? I agree with the rest of what you're saying but RTCs are generally caused by drivers being utter pillocks, not by dogs.

Dogs dashing into roads.

Ask any veterinary hospital or or orthopaedic referrals specialist or physio- it's off leash dogs who get hit.

Very rarely does a vehicle mount a pavement and injure an on leash dog.

It's termed an 'RTA' Road traffic accident.