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Are we classed as "poor" or average

341 replies

FutureMrsBourne · 17/09/2023 17:25

Sorry I couldn't think of a better word.
DH earns around £70k.
I only earn £12ph and work 3 days a week as we have 2 children under 5.
Most of my friends are on slightly more than me an hour but not massively, have maybe slightly nicer but similar houses, only really get their hair done in terms of beauty.. but most of DH's friends partners earn £50+.. have big houses with cinema rooms, bars.. have regular Botox, lip fillers etc.
we live in a 3 bed and semi and have saved since 2018 for a new kitchen.
Are we poor.. or average? I feel such a failure compared to DH's friends wives and I worked bloody hard for my qualifications that are rubbish pay!

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IHeartGeneHunt · 17/09/2023 17:33

I make £13,000 a year. I'm poor. You're not.

Keepitrealnomists · 17/09/2023 17:34

Everyone is different, everyone earns different amounts and spend their money on different things depending on priorities. Don't know why your comparing yourself to other people. Concentrate on you and your family. Fwiw, we have a household annual income of £100k+ and we are more than comfortable. We don't spend our money on anything you have listed.

WeaselCheeks · 17/09/2023 17:34

Your husband's on more than double the average wage, so you're well beyond average, never mind poor!

Jk987 · 17/09/2023 17:34

Why do you need to know whether people perceive you as poor or not? What's led to you having these insecurities?

OnAFrolicOfMyOwn · 17/09/2023 17:35

It' DH's wage that brings the money.. I just feel a bit useless sometimes for being so poorly paid and not progressing in my career before children.

Get your husband to go part-time and you go full-time, and do what it takes to move to the next level in your career. Plenty of people survive on an income of less than 35k (i.e. if your husband halves his hours).

Adreno · 17/09/2023 17:35

I love that a home bar is considered aspirational.

Sounds tacky as fuck.

Boomboom22 · 17/09/2023 17:36

Above average so basically rich according to both labour and the tories at the moment.

MonkeyPuddle · 17/09/2023 17:36

Maybe look at some third sector job opportunities so that you can earn more, do something worthwhile and improve your self esteem in a way that isn’t derived from the accumulation of physical items.

who gives a fuck if your mates got a big house and big teeth. You have a home, family, security.

RedLollyYellowLorry · 17/09/2023 17:38

Beezknees · 17/09/2023 17:31

Your husband earns a £70k salary and you think you are poor because you don't have a cinema room?

I am a lone parent earning £22k, you have no idea what poor is.

You need to claim benefits that you are entitled to if you are a single parent.

ThatsGoingToHurt · 17/09/2023 17:38

Comparison is the thief of joy!

Your household income is above average, but I expect 2 maternity leaves and nursery fees have drained a lot of the money for extras.

I don’t know anyone who has 700k houses, cinema rooms or goes to Turkey to get their teeth done!

Checkcurtains · 17/09/2023 17:38

Are you for real OP?

The ons has a calculator that allows you to benchmark against the whole country.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/personalandhouseholdfinances/incomeandwealth/articles/incomespendingandwealthhowdoyoucompare/2022-03-09

You'll be in the top quartile at least. Of course you are not poor and probably not even average

husbandcallsmepickle · 17/09/2023 17:38

Botox, fillers and Turkey teeth are really chavvy

SatelliteStomper · 17/09/2023 17:39

You know some very tacky, flashy people OP. Don't compare yourself to them.

Kdubs1981 · 17/09/2023 17:40

Well, you are going to get your arse handed to you here OP 🍿

Iknowitswrong15 · 17/09/2023 17:40

Wow
I’m a single mum earning less than you but more than the average wage in the uk
we are not poor 😂

Allthecatseverywhereallatonce · 17/09/2023 17:40

Honestly as soon as I saw 70k I did a massive eye roll. You are better off than me and my Dh, both working full time. Does that help?

Beezknees · 17/09/2023 17:41

RedLollyYellowLorry · 17/09/2023 17:38

You need to claim benefits that you are entitled to if you are a single parent.

I do don't worry! Certainly doesn't add up to £70k though.

tedybear · 17/09/2023 17:41

Household income of above £80k a year! Yip ur so poor. I can't actually believe u have used that word, honestly! You do realise some families have incomes of half of that and wouldn't consider themselves poor.

NoSquirrels · 17/09/2023 17:42

Comparison is the thief of joy, OP.

You’re not poor, absolutely not, but you feel it in comparison to your friendship group’s £700K houses with cinema rooms.

But it’s irrelevant. Can you pay your bills, live comfortably with some of the nice things in life, and put some by for a rainy day or the future? If so, you’re OK.

Babyroobs · 17/09/2023 17:43

Hate these kind of moronic threads where people not far off 100k claim to be struggling in comparison to other. WTAF.

neilyoungismyhero · 17/09/2023 17:43

Going to go shoot myself now..

ghostyslovesheets · 17/09/2023 17:43

Single parent on about £32k including maintenance - 3 kids, mortgage - do not count myself as poor - not wealthy but managing

you have double that income - so no you are not poor - your partners friends simply earn more money than you do

TheHolyGrailSpeaks · 17/09/2023 17:43

I would comment if I could speak (we earn £eleventy billion pounds and my lips are so full of fillers they obscure my face).

PonyPatter44 · 17/09/2023 17:44

This is utterly tone deaf. There are people trying to put food on the table and worrying about their heating bills, and you are wittering about being poor on a £80k+ household income. Have a word with yourself, for goodness sake.