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Roman Empire female equivalent

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HeadChog · 12/09/2023 22:21

Inspired by the Roman Empire thread, I wondered whether there is an equivalent thing that women think about a lot but men never do.

I reckon I think about Michael Jackson a lot more than my DH. I probably think about MJ at least 3-4 times a week.

Anyone else think about one obscure thing, unconnected with work or hobbies, a lot?

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F0XCUB · 13/09/2023 06:42

I think about Gary Glitter a lot. Isn't that the same thing?

Tessisme · 13/09/2023 07:15

When some small unfortunate mishap happens, like dropping the last biscuit on the floor, I slowly shake my head and morosely mutter "already broken" to myself in a bad Brummy accent. So how much I think about the peaky fucking blinders very much depends on how good a week I'm having.

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Curseofthenation · 13/09/2023 07:17

Wildlife/nature/natural history

Morghulis · 13/09/2023 07:45

I wonder if the Roman Empire is partly an English thing too since you are surrounded by it down there. Im Scottish and would say I think more about the celts or Gaels because that’s the history here more than romans. Or maybe Vikings on occasion too. Partner is the same.

Morghulis · 13/09/2023 07:51

More generally I think about space, true crime, society (particularly class based system, poverty, patriarchy).

And most random of all, at night I think about places you’d normally see in daylight but how they’d be at night e.g. thinking about my work office all dark at night. Give me the heebies but can’t help myself.

RonObvious · 13/09/2023 07:51

AmazingSnakeHead · 12/09/2023 22:53

According to the "men are obsessed with the Roman empire" meme, men are supposed to think about the Roman empire a lot because the romanticised version of it captures some sort of male ideal: success in battle, cultured, physically powerful, rich, world conquerors, etc. There is no female equivalent because there is no past romanticised historical period in which women thrived on specifically traditionally female ideals.

I recon the closest we have are points in time that make female oppression particularly salient. I bet women think about Henry VIII's wives and the witch trials more often than men do.

That’s really interesting, and could also explain why so many women (myself included) seem to be so fascinated by true crime.

And can I also say that this is probably my favourite mumsnet thread of all time. I’m going to be thinking about so many of the topics suggested on her for some time!

AlrightThen · 13/09/2023 07:52

I don't think about Michael Jackson at all. When I drive though and hear his "they don't really care about us" from the radio, I think of how the white people are in the minority in some African countries.

So I think of systems fairly often. I'm a rather chaotic person though. I also think of light that shines through those systems which is why I don't get depressed.

Biscuitlover456 · 13/09/2023 07:53

All sorts! Usually based on what I’m reading. At the moment listening to an audiobook about Napoleon in anticipation of the Ridley Scott biopic in November. What I’ve learned is that was a truly bonkers time in European history. This year I’ve read non-fiction books about climbing Everest, autism, the death of Dr David Kelly, Houdini, WWI and the Suffragettes.

Dogscanteatonions · 13/09/2023 08:15

Long distance running/walking and time travel. I always want to go back and see what places were like

PoseasRadicalActuallyMisogynistic · 13/09/2023 08:17

Someone I know works in emergency medicine, I often think about the fact that whilst she’s brushing her teeth then getting in the bus, someone else is going about their day in much the same way. And yet they’re going to meet later in very different circumstances, the Dr will have prepared for them and they don’t even know they’ll be needing care in a couple of hours.

Poppysmom22 · 13/09/2023 08:38

I think about murder every day not in a I'm going to do it but in a I wonder why they did that

whatsappdoc · 13/09/2023 10:01

I think about women's rights being trampled on probably every hour (not healthy). I think about the Lancastrian and York women a lot as I'm always reading about them. Also had a sexy dream about Carl Wilson of the Beach Boys a few weeks ago and am constantly watching him him singing on YouTube. (Not healthy at all as he died in the 90s).

whatsappdoc · 13/09/2023 10:07

I forgot about breaking down written words into phonemes. Can't stop. Surprised I get anything done during the day really.

Ozgirl75 · 13/09/2023 10:58

I asked my sons (10 and 13) about this today and they said they didn’t think about the Roman Empire. However, my oldest son said he thinks a lot about what he would do a President of a country that needed a lot of help, like, what he would prioritise, where he would spend money etc. He said he also thinks about emergency situations, specifically what he would do if there was a school shooting (keep in mind we live in leafy Surrey).
My youngest son? He said “football and what I would do if someone tried to kidnap me”
They aren’t at all doom mongers outwardly!

Esgaroth · 13/09/2023 11:00

I think the Aragorn scene, enthralling as it is, is not the equivalent of the Roman Empire. Men also definitely think about sexy women in films. I don't know what is considered a classic film scene that appeals to heterosexual men (probably something with boobs) but that would be the equivalent of Aragorn son of Arathorn.

They're not turned on by the Roman Empire are they?

Though I'm now wondering if gay men also love Aragorn or whether there is something about him that specifically appeals to heterosexual women?

barbarahunter · 13/09/2023 11:06

I think about my 3 exes a few times a week. I try and rank order them from vile to least worst. Sometimes I remember something one of them did and have to change the rank order. The rank order is always changing.
I think I am weird for doing the ranking thing, and I would never ever tell anyone in real life.

YeahIsaidit · 13/09/2023 11:11

How to make it in the event of a zombie apocalypse... I have plans and places to go etc

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 13/09/2023 11:27

Not fussed by Aargorn. He looks like he needs a wash.

I do think very frequently about:

The structure, evolution and interrelationship of words within and across languages (and, to a lesser extent, grammar).

All sorts of bits of history - including but definitely not limited to the Romans.

Developmental neurology.

Women's rights.

How legislation and policies could be improved (with a particular focus on WR, but plenty of other stuff as well).

Tides.

The feasibility of adding a green roof to the shed.

Interior design of Hobbit houses, particularly practical factors like ensuring proper ventilation.

What I should have done to houses I no longer own.

Train routes (international, long distance).

RhodaDendron · 13/09/2023 12:15

I spend a huge amount of my inner life in Ancient Greece. I don’t know why, because women had an awful time of it.

LetMeEnfoldYou · 13/09/2023 12:17

Really enjoying all the terribly highbrow 'Taylor who? I've barely heard of her' type posts.

Nobody has claimed not to know who Caesar is or have never heard of the Romans...

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 13/09/2023 12:44

I often think about other people’s jobs.

Today I was wondering about people who test poo samples.

I know people who do this as their job. Patients are given a solid small plastic tube, with a little spoon in the lid, with clear instructions as to how to scoop up a sample - yet the number of people who will ignore all of that and send in a whole big fat turd in an old Nescafe jar or, worse, curl one into a sandwich bag and tie it very loosely...

I think about people who do lots of different jobs. How tedious must it be to be a guide, telling the exact same stories, making the exact same jokes six times a day, every day? At least, if your repetitive job is in a factory or packing biscuits into boxes, nobody is expecting you to look excited about it all day!

I agree with the history comments, often wondering how it must actually have been to be that historical person. How Anne Boleyn must have felt when told that she was going to be beheaded for the 'crime' of her husband fancying somebody else instead. It must have been bad enough for those being hanged or beheaded who HAD done serious horrendous crimes to warrant it.

We have a tendency nowadays of looking back at horrific macabre facts of history flippantly, even just as entertainment, simply because they happened a long time ago. It wasn't 'a long time ago' to the victims, though - real people no more or less than we are - it was their 'now'. I do like Horrible Histories, but I find a lot of the 'stupid deaths' sections very uncomfortable to watch.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 13/09/2023 12:50

LetMeEnfoldYou · 13/09/2023 12:17

Really enjoying all the terribly highbrow 'Taylor who? I've barely heard of her' type posts.

Nobody has claimed not to know who Caesar is or have never heard of the Romans...

Indeed!

Haters gonna hate...

SvetlanaGoldstein · 13/09/2023 13:17

I spent a ridiculous amount of time thinking about the upper palaeolithic. At least 4 times a day. I'm sure it borders on escapism now that I'm a responsible adult™️

peachypudding · 13/09/2023 13:51

I think about the illusion of time and permanence a lot. Everything is very transitory (including our lives) yet for life to make sense we have to pretend otherwise.

SleepingStandingUp · 13/09/2023 13:57

TenOhSeven · 12/09/2023 22:32

This isn't a real thing, but I reckon I think about time travel more than the average person. I want to go back a hundred years and walk around my city. I plan routes, and idly wonder if I'll still be wearing my Skechers when I clamber out the time machine.

You need to remember tho that anything you do will cause a ripple in time that might mean you are never born and time will collapse in on you

If you ask DS the first rule of time travel, he'll tell you it's to only go forwards