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AIBU to have sat on her feet

232 replies

Toenailz · 11/09/2023 23:39

Tongue in cheek really, I feel perfectly reasonable. OH thinks I'm getting old, intolerant, and grumpy.

Got on the bus today with shopping bags in tow, they're heavy and I'm knackered (I have a disability that causes chronic exhaustion, but it's invisible). It's heaving busy in town/on bus, so I head to the back of the bus so we can fit some bags on our lap/feet out of people's way/the aisle.

One corner of the back seats is taken. The other corner has one, older teenage girl, taking up 4 seats with herself taking one seat, her handbag taking another, and her feet on the 2 seats in front of her, burying her head in her phone as if she can't see us. Didn't move her handbag or feet from the two seats, despite my obviously being right in front of her, so I just gave up and sat on her feet.

She removed them sharpish, probably because I'm quite fat.

Probably not helped by the inward trip earlier today, where having dodged one teenager's leg placed right into the aisle, I tripped over the next one's leg in aisle and went flying.

I couldn't be arsed asking her to move, because I was about 6 inches in front of her, my OH had sat in the seat next to her handbag, so there's no way she couldn't have known we were there (no headphones, either) so I thought, if you're going to pretend I'm not there, I'm going to pretend you're not. But ffs, I sat on a teenager. ON PURPOSE. Not a high point in my life.

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Lilibert456 · 12/09/2023 14:21

Well done. You are a legend. Can't be doing with arsey self obsessed teenagers.

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 12/09/2023 14:23

Skogrammy · 12/09/2023 11:45

What a vile women.

IIRC she threw up on his laptop. She wasn't vile, she didn't do it on purpose, she was just feeling ill. He was sitting in the disabled seats, which is why she chose him to ask for a seat. If he'd been a decent human being he would've given her - heavily pg - the seat.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 12/09/2023 14:26

housethatbuiltme, but those instructions are for people who are switched on enough/parented effectively enough to MOVE in the event that somebody wants to sit down. I keep hearing that 'certain people shouldn't have children'... the ones that say that are undoubtedly some of the ones dragging up their own children and these inconsiderate and selfish clots, are the result.

I don't like the idea of sitting where somebody else's dirty feet have been but, people are dirty and when you need to sit, you need to sit.

It really, really shouldn't need saying, not to adults in possession of at least one functioning brain cell (not directed at you, but to many on this thread).

NNat · 12/09/2023 15:50

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CherryMaDeara · 12/09/2023 16:12

I think putting your feet on seats is so outside the bounds of normal behaviour that you then in turn can't expect normal behaviour from others and they are entitled to sit on your feet because your feet shouldn't be there, therefore your feet are not there and are incidental and may be sat on.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 12/09/2023 19:39

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 12/09/2023 14:10

There are plenty of posters tacitly defending the girl by putting the onus on the OP to ask her to move her feet and bags? Why the hell should anybody have to do that? What kind of shoddy parenting delivers people like this girl who put their shitty shoes on public seats?

Some of those parents seem to be on this thread sure enough.

I do think people should be aware of their surroundings but sometimes people do zone out. A polite 'excuse me' is not out of order.

Abbimae · 12/09/2023 19:44

JetBlackSteed · 11/09/2023 23:47

I would be interested to know who was sat in the other corner of the back seats that you chose to leave be and pick on the teenage girl?

Really! Little brat sat deliberately trying to take up space

KMA2023 · 12/09/2023 19:56

@viques
I would also like to claim PIP for this hidden disability.
Fourseatus bagnoramus

Legale · 12/09/2023 20:13

She was definitely BU to take up 4 seats. The only thing I find maybe a little unreasonable from OP is doing this because she's a teen? No doubt she was ignorant, but I also wonder if a big, 6ft+ guy in steel toe caps would have received the same treatment.

HarrietJet · 12/09/2023 20:16

I've never seen an adult sit with their feet on the seats on public transport.
Not saying it never happens, but I've never seen it.
Have you ever seen a 6ft male in hobnail boots taking up four bus seats, @Legale ?

KMA2023 · 12/09/2023 20:21

Reminds me of two incidents that happened to me when I was much larger commuting to work.

Got on a busy train and sat on a double seat where the inside seat was missing. Got glared at by everyone until a man rudely asked me to shift so others could sit down. Great pleasure in offering him the floor beside me.

Another one, totally my fault, on a bus. I was wider than one seat and another regular commuter who was disabled sat next to me for 17 miles. Only thing was, he was half sat on my lap. Typically British, neither of us uttered a word haha.

Legale · 12/09/2023 20:29

@HarrietJet I haven't used public transport for well over a decade so I have no idea. I don't think it's outside the realms of possibility though.

HarrietJet · 12/09/2023 20:31

Legale · 12/09/2023 20:29

@HarrietJet I haven't used public transport for well over a decade so I have no idea. I don't think it's outside the realms of possibility though.

So just pure hypothesis for the sake of argument then? Ok.

saveforthat · 12/09/2023 20:34

Ghosttofu99 · 12/09/2023 00:03

Its rude that she had her feet on the seat but you will never know if she would have moved them and apologise if you had just said ‘hey can you move your feet.’ Was she 19 or 13? You can’t assume she was ignoring you just because she didn’t look at you. How do you know she doesn’t also have a hidden disability that makes it hard to quickly perceive disgruntled adults heading towards her. Doubt you would have done the same to an adult man. Best case scenario a rude person sat on another rude person except one was an adult and should have known better.

FFS. Ignore this op. There's always one.

Legale · 12/09/2023 20:34

@HarrietJet I wouldn't say I'm the one out looking for an argument. 😂
We'll go with your point then, an adult male would never put his feet on the seats, therefore it's a non-issue due to sheer impossibility.

HarrietJet · 12/09/2023 20:37

Legale · 12/09/2023 20:34

@HarrietJet I wouldn't say I'm the one out looking for an argument. 😂
We'll go with your point then, an adult male would never put his feet on the seats, therefore it's a non-issue due to sheer impossibility.

It didn't happen to op 🤷🏻‍♀️ When she actually encounters this hypothetical bruiser is time enough to think about how she'll handle it.

Legale · 12/09/2023 20:47

It's a discussion forum, I posted a thought relevant to said discussion.... if you'd like evidence it happens, at least one poster 2 pages back has mentioned encountering a man with his feet on the seats.
I'm going to leave it now as picking my post apart is derailing OP's thread somewhat.

On another note, some of these comments are exactly what my mum used to say when she commuted by train. I can't quote anymore but the poster who mentioned bums being for seats and not bags - I swear I heard this most days about people taking up a seat for their bag on a packed train and being extremely put out when someone asked to sit there! It's awful really, it was packed commuter trains going to and from the nearest big city.

HarrietJet · 12/09/2023 20:49

It's a discussion forum
You're right @Legale , I was being a bit high handed. Sorry.

oioicheeky · 12/09/2023 21:28

Absolutely not unreasonable.

I'm with you, you shouldn't have had to ask.

Lesson learnt, hopefully

Toenailz · 12/09/2023 21:28

Blimey - I'm glad this brightened some days! 😍To answer some questions..

I'm not sure sitting on an approximately 18-19-year-olds feet constitutes assault of a child, but if the police come knocking on my door I'm quite happy to identify myself to them as both an obvious child abuser and a victim blamer and tell them that I think she deserved it, they can deduce I'm a psychopath and lock me away and throw away the key.

I've no doubt the fact I'm fat meant it was probably a bit uncomfortable for her, but to be fair, most fat people have a large derriere, so in my defense, the weight was spread over a larger area (my bum cheeks) so evenly distributed. No pressure points from seatbones or anything.

She didn't limp off the bus, so if she had an injury it looks like my arse corrected the injury for her.

I like the response 'if it had been a man...'. No. Just no. Not all of us are afraid of men. I have absolutely sat on a man's bag, and if it had been his foot, sat on his foot too. Once a man in his forties decided to plonk his foot on the footrest/floor area of the seat parallel to his, meaning his leg was across the aisle and a few people had to step over his leg to get off the bus. I did not step over his leg. I walked into it and kept walking. He probably also had a hidden disability which meant that he needed to prevent people from proper use of the bus, and now I am an abuser of disabled people.

No one clapped. All too busy trying to find a seat.

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Toenailz · 12/09/2023 21:36

LarryStylinson · 12/09/2023 11:23

I can't stop laughing. Are you taking friend applications? I like the cut of your jib.

I absolutely am, yes.

Because I have no friends because I'm a child assaulting miserable weirdo, who appreciates similar company! My PM box is open folks.

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Cazareeto1 · 13/09/2023 18:00

I think you was in the right and your sense of humour cracks me up 💀 😂.

Elle2018 · 13/09/2023 18:13

OP I have a teenage daughter and if she was sat with her feet on a seat I would be thankful you sat on them and taught her a lesson!

MarkWithaC · 13/09/2023 18:19

Ghosttofu99 · 12/09/2023 00:03

Its rude that she had her feet on the seat but you will never know if she would have moved them and apologise if you had just said ‘hey can you move your feet.’ Was she 19 or 13? You can’t assume she was ignoring you just because she didn’t look at you. How do you know she doesn’t also have a hidden disability that makes it hard to quickly perceive disgruntled adults heading towards her. Doubt you would have done the same to an adult man. Best case scenario a rude person sat on another rude person except one was an adult and should have known better.

a hidden disability that makes it hard to quickly perceive disgruntled adults heading towards her.
Oh yes, that one Grin
OP, personally I am old and ugly and bolshy enough now that I would have just said loudly, 'Excuse me, please.' But I do appreciate the impulse to go for the direct-occupation approach and I have deployed it in the past (although for people's bags that were enjoying their own seat, never anyone's feet. Still, I've time.)

4kids2cats · 13/09/2023 18:22

Is that pronounced “Plà-tays” levitatus? 😅