To consider the sex industry so I can spend more time with my DC

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I'm currently employed doing shift work, 4 12 hour shifts a week. I always knew I didn't want to be working so much when I had DC so I set out on becoming self employed. Turns out it's significantly more challenging and time consuming than I anticipated, and so I'm still not making any money as of yet. When DC was a baby I felt I had more time to pursue said self employment, during naps, in the evenings, and it was easier to find childcare as DC didn't require much stimulation. Now DC is a full throttle, mummy obsessed toddler who needs outings, constant supervision and sleeps considerably less, I naturally have less time to do work. There's also the huge amounts of guilt I'm carrying by feeling like I'm absent so much, even though I keep trying to tell myself it'll pay off when I no longer have to do shift work and instead can work remotely for short periods of time.

I don't actually remember where I got the idea from for making content for niche fetishes, but from curious research it seems like there is money to be made if you're attractive in certain ways and you know how to market your stuff. An old girlfriend of a friend allegedly made a few grand a month, which even 2/3rds of would be enough for me to stay afloat.

AIBU to even consider getting involved in this? I would attempt to remain anonymous wherever possible as have no desire to do it other than for "easier" money (by easier I mean doesn't require 48+ hours a week commitment at set times). I just want to be able to spend more time with my DC while they're young.

FFS people ignore. Most people were, so deny it the oxygen of attention 🙄

If there was a large enough market for it, I'm sure we would.

Well yes there might not be a lot of women willing to pay but lots of other men probably would.

Am I reading this thread correctly because it appears to have been invaded by blokes who buy women (or have done so) offering their non asked for opinion or women who maybe do this themselves and can't hack the fact that plenty of us are judgemental on it . If you haven't got a thick enough skin to accept that many women on mumsnet don't see this the same way as yourself or have been hurt by partners use of sleaze then you shouldn't be doing the job - the last thing you should be doing is showing a complete lack of empathy to women who aren't ok with it

@mistymistymorning totally agree or as I said in a previous post weigh up working less hours and maybe claiming slightly

exactly and this is what these straight male apologists for prostitution should consider-
not,
would I be happy being paid to have sex with a young attractive woman?
(yup, no problem)
but
would I be happy with an unattractive, unclean man buggering me, possibly without a condom

because if the answer to that is no, then it looks like prostitution may not be so empowering after all

Which is why there are many sex workers who cater for the gay market. Obviously nowhere near as many as women catering for the straight market, but that's due to lower demand.

There are many of unpleasant jobs, and for the most part, if the pay is worth it, you can find someone willing to do it.

Posts like this appear fairly regularly, and always make me roll my eyes. Not because I disapprove of sex work, quite the opposite.

Because I know that it is actually a skilled profession, which requires talent, business acumen and strength of character. The market is flooded and the competition is vast, but there seem to be so many middle class women who clearly look down on sex workers and have zero knowledge of the industry, thinking they can just flog a few anonymous foot pics and make thousands overnight. It doesn’t work like that.

Thanks, but I don't need 'schooling' just because I have an opinion YOU don't agree with. You don't speak for all women. You know that, right?

And thanks for the invite... but I've been on there. And would frankly rather shit in my hands and clap!

Thing is your boundaries will be constantly pushed

if you are prepared for that and accept that you will become desensitised and will be doing what you thought you never would then maybe it is for you

I haven’t achieved what I set out to and worked so hard it’s heartbreaking I’m constantly broke and we have few treats but I have my dignity and self respect many sex workers lose this along the way

very very few are the happy with what they are doing and making an ok living from it

Exactly this!

Oh absolutely! Many will happily pay for a stripper, a 'butler in the buff' or to go and see Magic Mike!
The reasoning would be 'the oppressor is getting a taste of their own medicine'. Yawn.

No, they're not. The simple fact is, they know what these women want and they are giving to them.
And these men certainly don't have anyone telling them they can't do it!

I know this thread has changed direction but if it helps OP I really hated how, when my children were young, so much of my wage was going on paying other people to look after them. BUT by the time they were older, because I'd been in my job for a while, I was earning more and had more promotion opportunities than if I'd left. And I was no longer paying childcare. So life suddenly got much easier much faster. It would have been nicer to stay home more but there are advantages to remaining employed. My mum on the other hand was self employed which is more of a struggle in some ways BUT she had more independence and after a few years of lean times as she got it started (getting contacts, building a reputation) she was making a decent living.

All of this is the complete opposite in sex work. Most of the time novelty (and youth) are the premium so your earning potential reduces the longer you do the job. The complete opposite of any other career. Even the men on here boasting about hiring beautiful young prostitutes rather then the seedy lower end types are inadvertently confirming that. I know you were talking about finding a niche on only fans but even if you were able to find an undertapped fetish (unlikely) if you made any money within a few weeks that niche would be flooded with new people. No matter what you do you will be competing with a constant stream of new faces (or feet whatever) AND your own nudes/videos. To have any hope of keeping "customers" interested in new material you would have to keep escalating what you were doing. And unlike other jobs (or even a spell running your own business) it won't help you get jobs outside of that field.

Meant to add - all successful businesses are scalable and offer increasing returns on initial investment of time/money. Sex work isn't (well except being a pimp)
If your business isn't making much now you need to consider: -
1.Will it realistically be making more money within a set period of time. Why? (E.g. are you running at a loss now because you have had to make initial investment but have a plan to be selling X amount by y date, or is it just that the thing you hoped would make money isn't)

1. Can you afford to keep going until that turning point

If the answer to either of these questions is no then I would look for a job. But not on only fans.

It's unlikely to be a good earner - OnlyFans is basically a sort of pyramid scheme and unless you're already famous, the average money earned is something like £30 a month. Not worth it to have intimate photos of yourself floating around the internet forever.

Probably your best course of action is retraining in something you can fit round your child - lots of women I know have gone back to work as teaching assistants, for example, which I think is fairly straightforward to get into.

She clearly needs the money if she's working 48 hours already. Teaching assistant jobs are good for women who don't have the pressure of paying the bills.

It's hard to think of high paying part-time jobs that you can easily retrain to do! Estate agency could be an option.

OnlyFans ain't it though.

If flexibility is key, why not a gig economy delivery job like Ubereats? No fixed hours

I see it's 2 separate issues here, if the OP needs the money and already has a 48 hours a week job then don't spend time on a part time project that hasnt been making her money- spend it on upping your skills and a couple of online courses

If it's less time at work so more time with child- then as I said below work out if you would be much worse off dropping to 24 hours a week and a slight benefit claim until child is school aged and then reconsider. That would also give you a bit more free time to upskill

I suspect the OP is looking for something that will earn you lots of money for 12 hours a week - I'm afraid very few things like that out there that are a guaranteed money spinner without something iffy about them or immense skill/knowledge

I have considered this and tbh would do it if it wasn't for the fact my children might somehow find out I would but I won't do it as a parent.

But you need to really think it through amd talk to people who have done it because it very well could hurt you mental health wise and tbh just putting up some anonymous faceless photos won't cut it as the market is flooded with stuff like that. So if you decide to proceed be very very cautious

I really wouldn't because it might cause you problems later with things.

Always lol at the relative morality argument men use .... While pointing out the worst of the worst.

I may have been a punter; but I'm not a cheater or beater! Aren't I a good one.

Congratulations.

Being a (former) punter means you are not a good one.

Who even gets turned on by someone wanking them off whom they know doesnt "like" them and are only doing it for a few bills. Probably because they haven't got the education or skills to make decent money any other way and haven't had the opportunity to. UK punting reveals exactly what the circumstances and attitudes are of most prostitutes. And it's not self employed, independent, "happy" prostitutes.

Same on other sites I've seen prostitutes discussing punters, fkg scary.

(And those happy ending massages parlours are often full of trafficked gang run Asian women with poor English and serious lack of knowledge of pertinent systems in the UK).

My favourite was one of these relative morality things shitty men say was one of my first partners whom I discovered was very promiscuous, fucking around a lot, spreading STDs and being rather economical with the truth; when I commented, it was "some men are fucking little boys up the ass". Yeah, he really didn't see that relative morality with paedophilic rape as the bench mark, does not fly.

But it it pays. Lots of people including the government, are not exactly living an honest life yet they make a pretty decent living out of it.

Husband losing interest when I got pregnant www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/4896122-husband-losing-interest-when-i-got-pregnant

He had been on only fans.

@Gellhell It's not an honest living is it.

She opens a fans account, she uploads content, a bunch of guys pay to view it. Where is the "dishonesty part"?