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To consider the sex industry so I can spend more time with my DC

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ofcourseivenced · 11/09/2023 18:12

I'm currently employed doing shift work, 4 12 hour shifts a week. I always knew I didn't want to be working so much when I had DC so I set out on becoming self employed. Turns out it's significantly more challenging and time consuming than I anticipated, and so I'm still not making any money as of yet. When DC was a baby I felt I had more time to pursue said self employment, during naps, in the evenings, and it was easier to find childcare as DC didn't require much stimulation. Now DC is a full throttle, mummy obsessed toddler who needs outings, constant supervision and sleeps considerably less, I naturally have less time to do work. There's also the huge amounts of guilt I'm carrying by feeling like I'm absent so much, even though I keep trying to tell myself it'll pay off when I no longer have to do shift work and instead can work remotely for short periods of time.

I don't actually remember where I got the idea from for making content for niche fetishes, but from curious research it seems like there is money to be made if you're attractive in certain ways and you know how to market your stuff. An old girlfriend of a friend allegedly made a few grand a month, which even 2/3rds of would be enough for me to stay afloat.

AIBU to even consider getting involved in this? I would attempt to remain anonymous wherever possible as have no desire to do it other than for "easier" money (by easier I mean doesn't require 48+ hours a week commitment at set times). I just want to be able to spend more time with my DC while they're young.

OP posts:
beatrix1234 · 14/09/2023 19:26

jeaux90 · 14/09/2023 16:23

Husband losing interest when I got pregnant www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/4896122-husband-losing-interest-when-i-got-pregnant

He had been on only fans.

Ohhh I see, so it's the only fans girl's fault that he "lost interest" in his wife while she was pregnant? Poor guy, some women are awful!

You must be kidding right?

Stompythedinosaur · 14/09/2023 19:28

I think you are being unrealistic about how easy it is to make good money that way.

jeaux90 · 14/09/2023 23:49

@beatrix1234 no the point is nothing in the sex industry is harmless. Nothing.

beatrix1234 · 15/09/2023 10:35

jeaux90 · 14/09/2023 23:49

@beatrix1234 no the point is nothing in the sex industry is harmless. Nothing.

The point is that the husband was a jerk and abandoned his wife at her most vulnerable moment, why are you blaming another woman for what was entirely this man’s fault? The same man who future faked her and left her pregnant? Oh the misogyny!

Comedycook · 15/09/2023 10:44

I reckon women who work in the sex industry probably have enough problems without concerning themselves with their punters marital situation.

Jumpingthruhoops · 15/09/2023 15:47

beatrix1234 · 14/09/2023 19:23

@Gellhell It's not an honest living is it.

She opens a fans account, she uploads content, a bunch of guys pay to view it. Where is the "dishonesty part"?

Exactly this! Just judgemental BS.

jeaux90 · 15/09/2023 18:03

@beatrix1234 I'm not.

I'm saying whatever way you play it the sex industry is shit.

It's shit for women from every angle. The only people it's good for is men.

Men.

Let me ask you, what do you think is good about it?

Tandora · 15/09/2023 18:07

Herecomestreble1 · 11/09/2023 18:17

I wouldn't judge you. As far as I'm concerned you do what's best for you and your family.

Hear hear

yoghurtcoatedraisin · 15/09/2023 18:51

GilbertMarkham · 13/09/2023 21:47

Always lol at the relative morality argument men use .... While pointing out the worst of the worst.

I may have been a punter; but I'm not a cheater or beater! Aren't I a good one.

Congratulations.

Being a (former) punter means you are not a good one.

Who even gets turned on by someone wanking them off whom they know doesnt "like" them and are only doing it for a few bills. Probably because they haven't got the education or skills to make decent money any other way and haven't had the opportunity to. UK punting reveals exactly what the circumstances and attitudes are of most prostitutes. And it's not self employed, independent, "happy" prostitutes.

Same on other sites I've seen prostitutes discussing punters, fkg scary.

(And those happy ending massages parlours are often full of trafficked gang run Asian women with poor English and serious lack of knowledge of pertinent systems in the UK).

My favourite was one of these relative morality things shitty men say was one of my first partners whom I discovered was very promiscuous, fucking around a lot, spreading STDs and being rather economical with the truth; when I commented, it was "some men are fucking little boys up the ass". Yeah, he really didn't see that relative morality with paedophilic rape as the bench mark, does not fly.

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Well, at 500 quid a go, I would think that those disadvantaged women with little education would quickly find the economic means at least to either fund an education/vocational training/self employment in another sector. That money had the potential to empower, moreso than a minimum wage trap job. That's what most uneducated, unskilled desperate folk fall into right?

As for the comparison, I used examples of bad behaviour most regularly cited on here to set my bar. I'm not seeking to change opinions, I know that's off the table. Yes I was a former punter. I have also been faithful my entire relationship and marriage, stepped back from my career so I could go joint part time with my wife to truly share raising our children. it's almost like one action or behaviour doesn't define an individual.

As for massage parlours, I am aware of their issues. As I have never been into one I haven't really had to consider it. The "do you know if they are 100% not trafficked, abused, coerced"canbe applied to most activity. Are you sure your clothing never saw a sweatshop? The gemstones in your ring not from a warzone? Your electronic goods not from some union busting, pseudo-slave factory?

monsteramunch · 15/09/2023 20:19

@yoghurtcoatedraisin

Do you have daughters / nieces perhaps in their 20s?

What would you honestly, objectively think about a man who paid them for sex?

Would you genuinely think he was a nice person? A good guy? A supporter of women's rights? Someone who sees men and women as true equals?

Or would you, if you're really honest, be repulsed at the idea he paid to have sex with a young woman (daughter / niece etc) you care about? Would you think he was a seedy creep?

monsteramunch · 15/09/2023 20:19

Well, at 500 quid a go

God even this phrasing alone really reveals how you see these women mate. Grim.

00100001 · 16/09/2023 06:56

yoghurtcoatedraisin · 15/09/2023 18:51

Well, at 500 quid a go, I would think that those disadvantaged women with little education would quickly find the economic means at least to either fund an education/vocational training/self employment in another sector. That money had the potential to empower, moreso than a minimum wage trap job. That's what most uneducated, unskilled desperate folk fall into right?

As for the comparison, I used examples of bad behaviour most regularly cited on here to set my bar. I'm not seeking to change opinions, I know that's off the table. Yes I was a former punter. I have also been faithful my entire relationship and marriage, stepped back from my career so I could go joint part time with my wife to truly share raising our children. it's almost like one action or behaviour doesn't define an individual.

As for massage parlours, I am aware of their issues. As I have never been into one I haven't really had to consider it. The "do you know if they are 100% not trafficked, abused, coerced"canbe applied to most activity. Are you sure your clothing never saw a sweatshop? The gemstones in your ring not from a warzone? Your electronic goods not from some union busting, pseudo-slave factory?

Men paying women for sex is never ever going to be acceptable.

You bought a woman's body so you could have sex. You prioritised your desire for sex over the woman's dignity.

That is abhorrent, no matter how 'good' a man you claim to be.

No good person buys sex from another.

Comedycook · 16/09/2023 08:07

Well, at 500 quid a go, I would think that those disadvantaged women with little education would quickly find the economic means at least to either fund an education/vocational training/self employment in another sector. That money had the potential to empower, moreso than a minimum wage trap job. That's what most uneducated, unskilled desperate folk fall into right?

Like I said, seeing as it's such easy money not to mention the wonderful empowerment, why don't more men enter the industry...I mean all they'd have to do is be alone in a room with a man who has the physical ability to murder him, hope he doesn't and wank off his cheesy cock and hope he doesn't have any communicable diseases. It really is perplexing that they're not queuing up to do it.

jeaux90 · 16/09/2023 09:50

@Comedycook @00100001
Well said.

yoghurtcoatedraisin · 16/09/2023 10:10

If I had needed the money and had a plan to utilise the money to improve my life and mean I could stop wanking off men, then I would have considered it.
The market is a lot smaller though. Still, plenty of men do it. Equality of opportunity and all that.

Never paid for sex, at least not in the Bill Clinton definition.

Like I say the work isn't empowering or easy. The money though would have surely unlocked opportunities that otherwise wouldn't have been available?

We are going in circles here. I keep that old aspect of my life to myself because of the attitudes here.

willWillSmithsmith · 16/09/2023 10:56

Is there a market for doing this to a female audience instead? I’m not gay so may be way off the mark here but would an exclusively female audience seem less sleazy, a bit more palatable perhaps?

monsteramunch · 16/09/2023 11:00

@yoghurtcoatedraisin

I keep that old aspect of my life to myself because of the attitudes here.

You poor lamb, being judged for having paid for sexual contact with women when you can't know for sure if they're coerced, trafficked or abused.

Think of all the things you paid those young women to do. What would you think of a man who paid a daughter or niece of yours, at a similar age to those you paid, to do the same things?

I bet you'd have a similar 'attitude' towards those men as we do.

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