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School bans ALL physical contact

262 replies

DataColour · 07/09/2023 09:48

The parents haven't been informed by the school of this rule, but the kids have been told they will get a warning for the first transgression and then a detention is it happens again. No physical contact at all permitted. How are they going to enforce it and is this the case is any other school (from a quick Google I found that a school in Essex has done this) and AIBU to think it's ridiculous? I have 2 DCs in this school so it will affect them.

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PumpkinBum3 · 07/09/2023 23:40

babbscrabbs · 07/09/2023 23:22

Can't you just ban playfighting then?

Same as banning any fighting, some will do it anyway. Can start from one puts their arm round another’s shoulder and the other doesn’t like it. Leads to an argument or physical altercation maybe. Even an accusation of bullying/intimidation. Male students especially tend to wrap their arms round each others shoulders and for some weird reason it gets them hyped up, start bouncing around like at a football match etc. Causes issues in the corridor etc especially with younger students trying to walk past. Female students tend to hug before each and every lesson as if they’ll never see each other again. In the corridors all grouped together. Causes obstruction and lateness again between lessons mostly because they drag it out like one of them is off to war. It’s weird but true. These are two of thousands of examples.

Sounds overdramatic and far fetched but when you’ve 1000 teenagers in a building these scenarios happen every flipping day and then you’ve student statements to get, consequences given, dealing with parents complaining etc if there is an escalation.

Most schools have this rule and if one student is upset etc and others are consoling them by hugging etc I’ve never known consequences handed out for this but for the most part them touching each other never tend to end particularly well and again for the most part it’s completely unnecessary.

SaulHudsonDavidJones · 07/09/2023 23:51

Check out the Everyone's Invited website. Sexual assaults against girls in schools is prolific and not everyone is brave enough to call it out. Children especially are often scared of backlash, both the victim and those who witness it. Then there are general assaults masquerading as messing around. A blanket ban goes some way to helping this.

Dilapidateddilapidate · 07/09/2023 23:57

Foxesandsquirrels · 07/09/2023 23:18

@Dilapidateddilapidate not referring to legislation. It's been eye opening to read what you've posted though. Without outing myself I had to do a referral for a child to lighthouse and until the parents agreed to report it to the police, they wouldn't take them on. They were adamant all sexual abuse needs to be reported to the police before they take it on, so this may well be their policy which I assumed is the law. When I was helping this family report it, the police also said the same as lighthouse. All sexual assaults on children needs to be reported. It is up to the victim/family of they want to do a recorded interview and seek persecution, but a report must be made. I have no idea what legislation this is on. I'm assuming not the same as the school one which seems absolutely bizarre.

It must be the organisation’s policy (and a stupid policy in my view- withholding support from children if they aren’t good victims who does what they’re told?!’)

the legislation is what it is though- it’s the same in every LA.

Foxesandsquirrels · 08/09/2023 00:23

@Dilapidateddilapidate I'm assuming the legislation only covers schools? The police told me the same thing- the parents must report it to the police.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 08/09/2023 08:07

phoenixrosehere · 07/09/2023 20:38

And what will happen later, when "She" is out in the big wild world, where there are no rule on on touching?

Pretty sure there are. There are rules in the workplace and even laws about touching.

What laws are there about touching? Can you name one?

Dilapidateddilapidate · 08/09/2023 08:36

Foxesandsquirrels · 08/09/2023 00:23

@Dilapidateddilapidate I'm assuming the legislation only covers schools? The police told me the same thing- the parents must report it to the police.

No, they were incorrect. The legislation around reporting only covers mandatory reporting for certain professionals (teachers, doctors, social workers etc), and ‘reporting’ means reporting through their channels- not necessarily to the police.

Foxesandsquirrels · 08/09/2023 08:58

@Dilapidateddilapidate thank you! This has been really helpful. It's actually explained a big part of this situation to me which wasn't making sense.

DataColour · 08/09/2023 16:07

I haven't had a reply yet, will update once I do.

Having talked to my DCs, they aren't that bothered by bit, because they think they aren't going to get into trouble and the teachers aren't going to bother implementing it.
DH, who's been a secondary school teacher for 20 years, also says it's not a big deal and its just so that teachers will have the justification to deal with actual unacceptable behaviour. Well I hope so!

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DataColour · 08/09/2023 16:08

I thought dealing with unacceptable behaviour is always justified...hmm

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Oioicaptain · 09/09/2023 23:31

What, not even a bit of light flogging or the occasional strap?

SammyScrounge · 20/12/2023 18:09

jotajil · 07/09/2023 10:11

My grandsons school did that. He was upset cos he couldnt be matey with his friends.
So they are totally explicit about sex and ban physical contact.
I suppose they must have a reason. Maybe they could be up front about explaining.

Even in primary school sexual touching is on the rise. I can imagine the outcry on here if someone's child was sexually assaulted -.hand up skirt, breast groped etc It would be the school's fault of course for not enforcing a no touching ban.

Valeriekat · 21/12/2023 10:13

RudsyFarmer · 07/09/2023 09:56

When these ridiculous blanket bans on standard things come in there’s normally a smaller issue they are trying to (unsuccessfully) deal with. If you can find out what that is you might be able to unravel it.

Usually a bigger issue surely? Sexual assaults etc.

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