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Unreasonable to want a baby at 43?

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Babyat43 · 03/09/2023 20:35

I was recently at my Dr surgery for a routine blood test and got talking to the nurse. I said that I wish I had a child, and she said, it's not too late. She said it's possible I could get help with IVF etc.

Am I being unreasonable wanting a child at this age? My best friend thinks I should go for it. When I spoke to my mum, she said I'm just setting myself up for disappointment. I don't think she ever wanted me to have children. On the other hand, she begged my sister, the golden child, for grandchildren.

Can anyone advise me if they managed to get pregnant naturally at this age. I understand there might be more health concerns too.

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PostMasting · 04/09/2023 01:42

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junbean · 04/09/2023 01:56

Everybody is different, so it’s impossible to figure out if you’re able by comparing to others. You’d need to see a fertility specialist to access how many eggs you have, hormone levels, etc.

But I just had a baby at 41, I’m quite fertile, conceived the old fashioned way. I’m open to having another in a few years. Some women conceive in their 50’s and above. I heard a lot of stories from ultrasound techs and doctor’s etc. when I was pregnant. Everyone was so enthusiastic about older mothers. It’s funny to me because I feel quite young!

But some women have issues in their 20’s. So there’s no way to know until you get accessed. But other than that if you want to be a mother go for it. There’s lots of positives for being older. I have 3 older kids, all teenagers, and then a 12 year gap between them and my 1yo. I like being older, I feel more relaxed as a person, I have more money now, I know how fast time flies so I’m more present and appreciative of every moment.

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Cucucucu · 04/09/2023 05:34

The drama about older parents is ridiculous. I had my first at 19 my last one at 40 , my mum had me at 20 and my Nan had her at 43 , she was just retiring when I was born and she was an amazing nan that’s spend most days with me , my parents on the other hand are both still working at 61 and 62 so less time for the grandchildren. Most people live well into their 80s on relatively good health . 40s is far from old or even 60s , most 60 years olds are active and traveling

Cucucucu · 04/09/2023 05:36

PyongyangKipperbang · 04/09/2023 00:06

My main issue is that you dont seem to care that you may die young and leave your child motherless. Thats says to me that you have no concept of what you are planning! you say that you know of other families who have lost parents very young, how the hell do you think they would feel about what you have said that "it happens"? Do you honestly think that they would say "Oh bravo, go for it!"? Have you discussed your "if I die early, so be it" plan with your sister?

Seems like your plan depends an awful lot on luck and other people.

Having kids is not something you can wing. Deep thought, planning and the more thought needs to go into it. It really has to be "plan for the worst and hope for the best" and you only seem to be focussing on the latter half of that.

You seem to be the sort of person who lives life in the moment, which is fine up until the point where you bring a child into it. Then you cant live life in the moment. What you are planning to do now is sign off on your current life for the next 20 or so years, longer if you have a child with special needs, and you seem unwilling or unable to see that.

Yes because all children are well planned , specially those from your parents 🙄.

GreyhpundGirl · 04/09/2023 05:56

I had my one and only at 43. We weren't especially trying (had the attitude of if it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesnt- we'd been married for 7 years, and together a lot longer)

I now have a very happy, healthy 3 year old

Good luck in whatever you decide to do.

OMGitsnotgood · 04/09/2023 06:51

My main issue is that you dont seem to care that you may die young and leave your child motherless.

The average life expectancy for a woman in the uk is almost 83. Of course people can die younger but that is true of someone who has a child at any age.

What a mean and ridiculous comment.

Robinbuildsbears · 04/09/2023 07:07

PleaseGiveMeBackMySummer · 03/09/2023 23:27

No I didn't have a baby at that age. I never said I did, but you carry on making stuff up to suit your agenda. I was defending those who did have a baby at 19-21, after the vile post by the poster who said anyone who was a nan at 40 had ruined their life and fucked up the best years of her life - by being a mum early. I see a lot of bitterness on here from a few posters - but I sure ain't one of them.

Funny how no-one (hardly) has called out the poster who was so vile to the poster who said she is a nan at 40. Speaks volumes about the double standards on here (from some.)

This. Mumsnet is mental. There's so much ageism against women who have children younger than the average of 31.

Vettrianofan · 04/09/2023 07:45

PleaseGiveMeBackMySummer · 03/09/2023 22:29

@Wolfpa

I’m with @PleaseGiveMeBackMySummer

Thank you.

You’re body might allow you to carry a child but what about when they get older? Realistically if you start now you will be closer to 45 if you are able to have a child, what then?

Are you prepared to bring a child into the word who is destined to lose their parents at a relatively young age?

Exactly. People always come up with anecdata about their great auntie Ruth, who lived to 99 and ran a marathon every day and walked 15 miles to work and cycled a 94 mile round trip to the beach every weekend.... And their grandparents and great, great grandparents who lived to 109 and worked for 90 years, and their great aunt Lulu, who is 91 and is out drinking and playing bingo 4 nights a week and still works full time, and has got the health and stamina of a lass four times younger ...

But the reality is that most peoples health will start to decline by their mid 50s - and many will get to the point where they are getting quite a lot of medical issues, having procedures, going to clinics, having hospital visits, taking multiple meds and drugs, and then their young offspring, will possibly have to care for them by the time they (the parents) reach 70 to 75.

At this point the 'child' is only going to be in their early to mid 20s. Do you really want to put a young person through that - practically having to look after an elderly and infirm person - at the point where they should be really enjoying life/travelling/going to uni/doing a masters/forging a career/enjoying nights out and meals and weekends away with friends/concerts and shows etc? How can they do this when they have elderly infirm parents to care for?

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My health is utterly f*cked and I am only 40! I have several children though.

OMGitsnotgood · 04/09/2023 07:48

But the reality is that most peoples health will start to decline by their mid 50s

What?!

Hibiscrubbed · 04/09/2023 07:57

Sorry, have we really got a poster trying to discourage/laying into a woman about having a baby because she may die young?

What?

Anyone could die at any moment. If you didn’t do something in case you died ‘young’ no one would do anything.

KimberleyClark · 04/09/2023 08:18

A relative had her first baby at 43 and is now, in her late 50s, being treated for breast cancer. It’s a risk factor. But then so are many other things.

CleverLilViper · 04/09/2023 08:19

OP- you can try but I’d be realistic about the chances and manage your expectations going into it. If you’re to do it, I’d get on with it now. No time to waste.

its not impossible to have a child at 43. It’s just not as common as people on MN would have you believe. On MN, mid forties women are pushing out babies left, right and centre. In reality, this isn’t the case.

The risks of health complications go up as well for the baby and for the mother. That’s something that needs to be considered.

I also sit in the camp of “just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.” A lot of posters cry ageism when people raise concerns about people having babies late- but the people raising the concerns are right.

It’s not fair or ideal to bring a child into the world knowing that you could be subjecting them to be your carer at a time when they should be enjoying themselves and building their own lives.

The blasé attitude about it from some makes me think that having a child isn’t about providing a great family for this child but instead about fulfilling some deep desire of the parents- regardless of the consequences on the child.

The phrase “age is just a number,” drives me mental. It’s not just a number. It’s a biological reality and it carries with it a heap of consequences if you ignore it. Age is just a number where certain hobbies are concerned but babies and parenthood? No.

im not saying don’t do it. I’m just saying you need to think long and hard about the consequences. IVF can take a long time to be successful so you could be looking at 45/46 before you’ve even had a baby.

You’ll be fed all this “go for it!” by posters on here and anyone who raises legitimate concerns is shouted down and labelled bitter but you do need to think on those legitimate concerns.

The reason people ask why you haven’t tried before now is because it makes it seem like it was potentially never a priority for you before now. It’s trying to dig at why now?

I went through a phase at 35 thinking I wanted a child. I researched widely, I panicked and freaked out about declining fertility and then I stopped. I asked myself the question “if you’ve never wanted kids before now, why now?” It made me realise that I didn’t truly want a child.

good luck op whatever you decide to do.

CleverLilViper · 04/09/2023 08:22

Hibiscrubbed · 04/09/2023 07:57

Sorry, have we really got a poster trying to discourage/laying into a woman about having a baby because she may die young?

What?

Anyone could die at any moment. If you didn’t do something in case you died ‘young’ no one would do anything.

Yes, that is true.

However, let’s not pretend that 35 year olds are dying all the time. They’re not. Not even close to the rate of much older people.

Holidayhorizon · 04/09/2023 08:33

You need to go for this OP. Yes it might not work but if you set yourself a limit like 1 round or 3 rounds. Then you can say you did everything you could to try. You will have no regrets in ten years.

We conceived our second with IVF. We set a limit of four cycles. We conceived on our second cycle. I was glad we were doing our best to conceive even when the first cycle failed. It felt like a success in the sense we had tried something….

43 is a harder age to conceive. BUT you don’t have known fertility issues. Good luck whatever you decide.

Holidayhorizon · 04/09/2023 08:38

Also I wouldn’t try naturally for 18 months, I’d try for 6 months max. You need to collect your eggs as soon as possible for a better chance of them being euploid (genetically normal)

Dwappy · 04/09/2023 08:47

KimberleyClark · 04/09/2023 08:18

A relative had her first baby at 43 and is now, in her late 50s, being treated for breast cancer. It’s a risk factor. But then so are many other things.

I had a friend who was treated for breast cancer aged 36. She had a 2 year old at the time. My mum had breast cancer aged 65. They both survived it. But obviously not everyone does. You really don't know what the future may hold. And while I agree you need to think more carefully about having children later in life, I don't think dying young should be the main concern. Especially as the vast majority of women won't be able to conceive (naturally) past 45 even with IVF. And the vast majority of women in this country live past 65 so their children (while young) will be legal adults at least. And yes I still get that losing parents in your 20s is horrible it's still different to losing them as young children. I lost my dad when I was 25. My friend lost her mum when she was 10. I think her loss was much worse. (Her mum was only 39 by the way so despite having her children young she still left them motherless at a young age).

BeaBachinasec · 04/09/2023 09:05

It’s not fair or ideal to bring a child into the world knowing that you could be subjecting them to be your carer at a time when they should be enjoying themselves and building their own lives

I honestly don't get this obsession a section of MN has with young people becoming carers to parents. The vast majority of people who need care are late 70s or 80+ So if you have a child at 43, they'll be mid to late 30s themselves by the time their parents are old.

Plenty of time for uni and travelling (if that's what they want), getting themselves set up in work and their own family. And the parents themselves have plenty of time to put a support system in place.

I agree, it's silly to say age is just a number. But let's not be equally silly and suggest that children born to women aged 40+ will inevitably face onerous responsibilities and early bereavement.

Life is one big risk after another.

Tinklyheadtilt · 04/09/2023 10:50

Got to think about it in the future....do you really want a teenager when you are in your 60s?

I'm sure you will get people saying 'But I was fine!' but most people would find that very challenging. Post 40 is not a great idea. Having kids isn't an automatic right.

zazazoop · 04/09/2023 11:27

Go for it OP, if it happens great, if it doesn't at least you tried and could explore other options.

Mariposista · 04/09/2023 11:56

My friend was married at 41 and had her one and only baby a week before turning 45. Healthy happy baby and mum, she exercised until 3 days before birth and was back in the pool 10 days later.

I know another girl who can't conceive at 24. Very unhealthy lifestyle though.

You can lose your parents at any age. My friend lost her dad at 55 to cancer, but my gran had just died aged nearly 92.

Daisybuttercup12345 · 04/09/2023 12:00

My mother had me at 42. No assistance.
Good luck OP x

Blueraccoon · 04/09/2023 13:02

I had my one and only at 46

Things have been challenging at times but I don’t know if any more so than if I’d been younger. I’m in my 60s now and yes, I am starting to feel physically tired but he’s at an age now where he can help with stuff (moved the washing machine for example ) so that’s a bonus 😀

Have I ever regretted having him - no.

But you do need to really want a child and from your posts I don’t feel like you really do OP. You have a long term partner and yet you have been discussing ttc for a year now. You don’t have time on your side and if you really wanted this I think you would have gone for it by now

Vettrianofan · 04/09/2023 17:33

DH has already said that the DC will be changing his adult nappies when all the DC are older and DH is ill with dementia, if it comes to pass 🤣

Worriedatwork1 · 05/09/2023 00:40

Good luck OP. I have teenagers and am 42 but with a partner who doesn’t have children. The time has never been right to consider another, and I had said once I hit 40 it was off the table, but have recently been rethinking that and considering trying and thinking about the risks/challenges etc so will be keeping everything crossed for you